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Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 11:08
by Enlightened-One
Bandog wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 10:11
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 05:54
In terms of the topic of this thread, Golovkin believes Canelo tried to "cheat" when the Mexican tested positive for traces of Clenbuterol.
But according to the current drug protocol standards determined by WADA and applied by all the anti-doping agencies around the globe, covering all sports, any athlete that submits the same levels of Clenbuterol that Canelo supplied, would be deemed as being clean.
I'm sure that people will get upset at me, inevitably compelling several mentally-deranged individuals to respond with a barrage of personal insults, but anyone with a modicum of intellect, coupled with the ability to read, would surely realise that everything I've written is factually-accurate.
Any mentally competent adult human being that can perform simple tasks without the assistance from carers provided by the community, would surely appreciate that facts don't care about feelings!
The truth is what it is.
A side note, on the 17th September, Canelo will become the first fighter to stop GGG.
With your logic, if I break the law and go to prison or get fined because of it, or lose my job, I didn't really break the law because it is different now? Your logic is horribly flawed, and you are wrong. If that makes me mentally deranged so be it.
The thing about stupid people is that it takes a reasonable amount of intelligence to realize that you are stupid. Being a narcissist makes it worse.
I don’t think you realise how the advancement of science works.
Sometimes drugs are added to the banned substances list, due to the acquisition of new knowledge.
Sometimes the thresholds for gauging the maximum permissible levels on WADA's substance list are increased, due to the acquisition of new knowledge.
According to today’s WADA drug protocols, Canelo cannot be deemed as being a PED cheat, due to that organisation acquiring new knowledge from their research, with the data compelling them to revise their rules.
The rule change affected all anti-doping agencies across the globe, covering all sports.
To provide some context, the earth isn’t flat and nor is it only 6,000 years old, which were common long-held beliefs of our ancient ancestors.
In your mind, the earth must still be flat, because thousands of years ago people believed this to be the case. You sincerely believe that people aren't allowed to change their beliefs in light of them acquiring new knowledge.
Do you still believe in Santa Clause?
Now please tell me that I am wrong?

Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 11:21
by Enlightened-One
Did you know you’d be considered a criminal in Arizona if you allowed a donkey to sleep in a bathtub?
Apparently some people feel that laws should never be changed, because they can never be wrong, regardless of hindsight!

Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 11:52
by apollo creed
Bandog wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 10:11
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 05:54
In terms of the topic of this thread, Golovkin believes Canelo tried to "cheat" when the Mexican tested positive for traces of Clenbuterol.
But according to the current drug protocol standards determined by WADA and applied by all the anti-doping agencies around the globe, covering all sports, any athlete that submits the same levels of Clenbuterol that Canelo supplied, would be deemed as being clean.
I'm sure that people will get upset at me, inevitably compelling several mentally-deranged individuals to respond with a barrage of personal insults, but anyone with a modicum of intellect, coupled with the ability to read, would surely realise that everything I've written is factually-accurate.
Any mentally competent adult human being that can perform simple tasks without the assistance from carers provided by the community, would surely appreciate that facts don't care about feelings!
The truth is what it is.
A side note, on the 17th September, Canelo will become the first fighter to stop GGG.
With your logic, if I break the law and go to prison or get fined because of it, or lose my job, I didn't really break the law because it is different now? Your logic is horribly flawed, and you are wrong. If that makes me mentally deranged so be it.
The thing about stupid people is that it takes a reasonable amount of intelligence to realize that you are stupid. Being a narcissist makes it worse.
yeah , eo is quite a twat-troll.
So, if eo would get raped and severely sexually tortured and if in his country these specific incriminations would be abolished, then eo by his judgement would consider those rapers innocent and even defend them ??
![[icon_e_surprised.gif] :oo](./images/smilies/icon_e_surprised.gif)
Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 12:41
by Enlightened-One
apollo creed wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 11:52
Bandog wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 10:11
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 05:54
In terms of the topic of this thread, Golovkin believes Canelo tried to "cheat" when the Mexican tested positive for traces of Clenbuterol.
But according to the current drug protocol standards determined by WADA and applied by all the anti-doping agencies around the globe, covering all sports, any athlete that submits the same levels of Clenbuterol that Canelo supplied, would be deemed as being clean.
I'm sure that people will get upset at me, inevitably compelling several mentally-deranged individuals to respond with a barrage of personal insults, but anyone with a modicum of intellect, coupled with the ability to read, would surely realise that everything I've written is factually-accurate.
Any mentally competent adult human being that can perform simple tasks without the assistance from carers provided by the community, would surely appreciate that facts don't care about feelings!
The truth is what it is.
A side note, on the 17th September, Canelo will become the first fighter to stop GGG.
With your logic, if I break the law and go to prison or get fined because of it, or lose my job, I didn't really break the law because it is different now? Your logic is horribly flawed, and you are wrong. If that makes me mentally deranged so be it.
The thing about stupid people is that it takes a reasonable amount of intelligence to realize that you are stupid. Being a narcissist makes it worse.
yeah , eo is quite a twat-troll.
So, if eo would get raped and severely sexually tortured and if in his country these specific incriminations would be abolished, then eo by his judgement would consider those rapers innocent and even defend them ??
I noticed you actively refrained from directly addressing my post.
What’s the matter kid, are you not bright enough to provide a counter-argument?
I guess the real-world is irrelevant to you.
Oh, and by the way…
Did you know you’d be considered a criminal in Arizona if you allowed a donkey to sleep in a bathtub?

Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 13:09
by apollo creed
Bandog and many others are right about you eo.
EO, keep having fantasies with donkeys in jacuzzi. lol

Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 13:22
by gilgamesh
apollo creed wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 15:42
gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 13:36
I did think it was funny how GGG said "I'm not gonna cut down any Athlete's Achievements" and then he proceeds to do just that for the next paragraph
As for other stuff that has come up in this thread.
Canelo vs Lara isn't the least bit controversial to me. Canelo won that clear.
GGG beat Canelo both times (Yes EO, the rematch was controversial all the same)
Canelo has one of the deepest resumes of any active boxer at the moment, and will continue adding to it for the next few years I'd imagine. Considering he started Boxing at so young an age, he may burn out while still in his 30's instead of early 40's, but I think he's still prime for now. For at least a little while longer.
The thing is Canelo fought a 35 y/o GGG and he could not beat him and also he got caught pissing hot. This is the truth.
If they had to fight back in 2011-2012 when they have sparred together then G would've broken down Canelo. At that time G was 28 and Canelo 20. At that time Canelo had 35+ fights at pro, so he was a seasoned pro.
I personally don't give a f*ck about the PED's Canelo may or may not have taken because I don't care about anything anyone takes frankly.
GGG beat him twice in my opinion, and yes of course he would've knocked out the young, Jr. Middleweight, 20 year old Canelo. I don't think anybody would argue with you on that one.
Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 13:58
by apollo creed
gilgamesh wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 13:22
apollo creed wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 15:42
gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Aug 2022, 13:36
I did think it was funny how GGG said "I'm not gonna cut down any Athlete's Achievements" and then he proceeds to do just that for the next paragraph
As for other stuff that has come up in this thread.
Canelo vs Lara isn't the least bit controversial to me. Canelo won that clear.
GGG beat Canelo both times (Yes EO, the rematch was controversial all the same)
Canelo has one of the deepest resumes of any active boxer at the moment, and will continue adding to it for the next few years I'd imagine. Considering he started Boxing at so young an age, he may burn out while still in his 30's instead of early 40's, but I think he's still prime for now. For at least a little while longer.
The thing is Canelo fought a 35 y/o GGG and he could not beat him and also he got caught pissing hot. This is the truth.
If they had to fight back in 2011-2012 when they have sparred together then G would've broken down Canelo. At that time G was 28 and Canelo 20. At that time Canelo had 35+ fights at pro, so he was a seasoned pro.
I personally don't give a f*ck about the PED's Canelo may or may not have taken because I don't care about anything anyone takes frankly.
GGG beat him twice in my opinion, and yes of course he would've knocked out the young, Jr. Middleweight, 20 year old Canelo. I don't think anybody would argue with you on that one.
Canelo knew from those sparring sessions how strong and skilful G is.
Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 19 Aug 2022, 17:19
by squiggy
118-110. For spending an entire fight backpedaling away from the dude. Stuff like that he really doesn't deserve to live down.
Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 20 Aug 2022, 07:45
by Bandog
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 11:08
Bandog wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 10:11
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 05:54
In terms of the topic of this thread, Golovkin believes Canelo tried to "cheat" when the Mexican tested positive for traces of Clenbuterol.
But according to the current drug protocol standards determined by WADA and applied by all the anti-doping agencies around the globe, covering all sports, any athlete that submits the same levels of Clenbuterol that Canelo supplied, would be deemed as being clean.
I'm sure that people will get upset at me, inevitably compelling several mentally-deranged individuals to respond with a barrage of personal insults, but anyone with a modicum of intellect, coupled with the ability to read, would surely realise that everything I've written is factually-accurate.
Any mentally competent adult human being that can perform simple tasks without the assistance from carers provided by the community, would surely appreciate that facts don't care about feelings!
The truth is what it is.
A side note, on the 17th September, Canelo will become the first fighter to stop GGG.
With your logic, if I break the law and go to prison or get fined because of it, or lose my job, I didn't really break the law because it is different now? Your logic is horribly flawed, and you are wrong. If that makes me mentally deranged so be it.
The thing about stupid people is that it takes a reasonable amount of intelligence to realize that you are stupid. Being a narcissist makes it worse.
I don’t think you realise how the advancement of science works.
Sometimes drugs are added to the banned substances list, due to the acquisition of new knowledge.
Sometimes the thresholds for gauging the maximum permissible levels on WADA's substance list are increased, due to the acquisition of new knowledge.
According to today’s WADA drug protocols, Canelo cannot be deemed as being a PED cheat, due to that organisation acquiring new knowledge from their research, with the data compelling them to revise their rules.
The rule change affected all anti-doping agencies across the globe, covering all sports.
To provide some context, the earth isn’t flat and nor is it only 6,000 years old, which were common long-held beliefs of our ancient ancestors.
In your mind, the earth must still be flat, because thousands of years ago people believed this to be the case. You sincerely believe that people aren't allowed to change their beliefs in light of them acquiring new knowledge.
Do you still believe in Santa Clause?
Now please tell me that I am wrong?
You are obviously retarded. Here is a simple fact: Canelo failed two seperate PED tests, showing he was over the legal limit of Clenbuterol in his system. The fact that they have since raised the acceptable level, is totally irrelevant. Simple analogies aren't simple enough for you I guess.
By the way, in your eyes, is Erik Morales also now free from any wrong doing, after getting a 2 year ban for the exact same thing Canelo got a 6 month ban for?

Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 20 Aug 2022, 08:27
by 881073
And despite all this, GGG still won both of his matches against him with quite a margin.
Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 20 Aug 2022, 10:15
by apollo creed
Bandog wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 07:45
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 11:08
Bandog wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 10:11
With your logic, if I break the law and go to prison or get fined because of it, or lose my job, I didn't really break the law because it is different now? Your logic is horribly flawed, and you are wrong. If that makes me mentally deranged so be it.
The thing about stupid people is that it takes a reasonable amount of intelligence to realize that you are stupid. Being a narcissist makes it worse.
I don’t think you realise how the advancement of science works.
Sometimes drugs are added to the banned substances list, due to the acquisition of new knowledge.
Sometimes the thresholds for gauging the maximum permissible levels on WADA's substance list are increased, due to the acquisition of new knowledge.
According to today’s WADA drug protocols, Canelo cannot be deemed as being a PED cheat, due to that organisation acquiring new knowledge from their research, with the data compelling them to revise their rules.
The rule change affected all anti-doping agencies across the globe, covering all sports.
To provide some context, the earth isn’t flat and nor is it only 6,000 years old, which were common long-held beliefs of our ancient ancestors.
In your mind, the earth must still be flat, because thousands of years ago people believed this to be the case. You sincerely believe that people aren't allowed to change their beliefs in light of them acquiring new knowledge.
Do you still believe in Santa Clause?
Now please tell me that I am wrong?
You are obviously retarded. Here is a simple fact: Canelo failed two seperate PED tests, showing he was over the legal limit of Clenbuterol in his system. The fact that they have since raised the acceptable level, is totally irrelevant. Simple analogies aren't simple enough for you I guess.
By the way, in your eyes, is Erik Morales also now free from any wrong doing, after getting a 2 year ban for the exact same thing Canelo got a 6 month ban for?
EO may also have ASD. ASD, NPD and OCD?! EO should see a psychiatrist. He's leaving in his own freak world.
Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 20 Aug 2022, 10:17
by apollo creed
881073 wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 08:27
And despite all this, GGG still won both of his matches against him with quite a margin.
At 35 and 36 y/o.
Canelo ain't gonna get respect for beating or stopping a 40 y/o grandpa GGG.
Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 20 Aug 2022, 13:29
by Enlightened-One
apollo creed wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 10:15
Bandog wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 07:45
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑19 Aug 2022, 11:08
I don’t think you realise how the advancement of science works.
Sometimes drugs are added to the banned substances list, due to the acquisition of new knowledge.
Sometimes the thresholds for gauging the maximum permissible levels on WADA's substance list are increased, due to the acquisition of new knowledge.
According to today’s WADA drug protocols, Canelo cannot be deemed as being a PED cheat, due to that organisation acquiring new knowledge from their research, with the data compelling them to revise their rules.
The rule change affected all anti-doping agencies across the globe, covering all sports.
To provide some context, the earth isn’t flat and nor is it only 6,000 years old, which were common long-held beliefs of our ancient ancestors.
In your mind, the earth must still be flat, because thousands of years ago people believed this to be the case. You sincerely believe that people aren't allowed to change their beliefs in light of them acquiring new knowledge.
Do you still believe in Santa Clause?
Now please tell me that I am wrong?
You are obviously retarded. Here is a simple fact: Canelo failed two seperate PED tests, showing he was over the legal limit of Clenbuterol in his system. The fact that they have since raised the acceptable level, is totally irrelevant. Simple analogies aren't simple enough for you I guess.
By the way, in your eyes, is Erik Morales also now free from any wrong doing, after getting a 2 year ban for the exact same thing Canelo got a 6 month ban for?
EO may also have ASD. ASD, NPD and OCD?! EO should see a psychiatrist. He's leaving in his own freak world.
I’m seriously enjoying the insults, do you want to know the reason why?
It’s because you’re powerless to refute any of the facts I’ve cited… not even one of them… and it’s hilarious!!!
Come on kid, please insult me again!
Because every time you do, all I’m hearing is you venting your frustration about me being 100% right!
In other words, you’re telling me my argument is perfect!!!
Please continue feeding me your salty insults, because your tears of frustration taste absolutely delicious!

Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 21 Aug 2022, 04:23
by apollo creed
Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 21 Aug 2022, 10:10
by Bandog
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 13:29
apollo creed wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 10:15
Bandog wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 07:45
You are obviously retarded. Here is a simple fact: Canelo failed two seperate PED tests, showing he was over the legal limit of Clenbuterol in his system. The fact that they have since raised the acceptable level, is totally irrelevant. Simple analogies aren't simple enough for you I guess.
By the way, in your eyes, is Erik Morales also now free from any wrong doing, after getting a 2 year ban for the exact same thing Canelo got a 6 month ban for?
EO may also have ASD. ASD, NPD and OCD?! EO should see a psychiatrist. He's leaving in his own freak world.
I’m seriously enjoying the insults, do you want to know the reason why?
It’s because you’re powerless to refute any of the facts I’ve cited… not even one of them… and it’s hilarious!!!
Come on kid, please insult me again!
Because every time you do, all I’m hearing is you venting your frustration about me being 100% right!
In other words, you’re telling me my argument is perfect!!!
Please continue feeding me your salty insults, because your tears of frustration taste absolutely delicious!
You remind me so much of Donald Trump. About the worst insult I can think of.
Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 07 Sep 2022, 08:41
by Enlightened-One
Bandog wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 10:10You remind me so much of Donald Trump. About the worst insult I can think of.
If you're intellectually challenged, I imagine it must be difficult for you to think about many things.
Re: GGG:“But there are some other questions about how he[Canelo] did that and what he used" Damn!
Posted: 07 Sep 2022, 11:12
by Thomastearns
Bandog wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 10:10
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 13:29
apollo creed wrote: ↑20 Aug 2022, 10:15
EO may also have ASD. ASD, NPD and OCD?! EO should see a psychiatrist. He's leaving in his own freak world.
I’m seriously enjoying the insults, do you want to know the reason why?
It’s because you’re powerless to refute any of the facts I’ve cited… not even one of them… and it’s hilarious!!!
Come on kid, please insult me again!
Because every time you do, all I’m hearing is you venting your frustration about me being 100% right!
In other words, you’re telling me my argument is perfect!!!
Please continue feeding me your salty insults, because your tears of frustration taste absolutely delicious!
You remind me so much of Donald Trump. About the worst insult I can think of.
Seriously?
The worst insult you can think of?
Many would take it as a compliment.
Especially after seeing how things have panned out these past 2 years.
Or haven't you noticed?