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“I’m not that kind of person who’s going to belittle any athlete’s achievements and Canelo’s achieved a lot,” Golovkin said to the OC Counter Register.

“But there are some other questions about how he did that and what he used. I did not say something just because I just came up with it. There are lab results. The doctor said that there were the results of water testing. And when asked, I said, ‘Yes, I believe that he cheated.’ And if somebody in his team didn’t like my words, I believe it’s their problem.”
@ B.S

Well G is talking facts !
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Golovkin’s wait is scheduled to end Sept. 17 in Las Vegas at T-Mobile Arena, where the first two fights took place. Golovkin said it’s probably not his last fight because he wants to have one in Kazakhstan, but he mentioned that his days of being an active fighter with multiple bouts a year likely ended when the COVID-19 pandemic hit in 2020.

“I still have a lot of plans,” Golovkin said. “I still have big plans. There is my home country of Kazakhstan where I believe I need a fight. And on one side, I can say that I retired some time ago when the pandemic began, you know, with the active part of my career. But on the other hand, I still have some class in the world of boxing. So, you’ll see me.”

Speaking of class, Golovkin might say Alvarez doesn’t have much of it because of the way he’s handled many aspects of their rivalry, including negotiations for finalizing the three fights. Alvarez, 32, would likely say the same about Golovkin because of Golovkin’s remarks in the past four years.

The animosity between the two former sparring partners started after Golovkin called Alvarez a cheater for testing positive for a banned substance that postponed their rematch in 2018. Alvarez claimed it was tainted meat that triggered the positive test, but Golovkin didn’t buy it and never retracted his comments.


“I’m not that kind of person who’s going to belittle any athlete’s achievements and Canelo’s achieved a lot,” Golovkin said. “But there are some other questions about how he did that and what he used. I did not say something just because I just came up with it. There are lab results. The doctor said that there were the results of water testing. And when asked, I said, ‘Yes, I believe that he cheated.’ And if somebody in his team didn’t like my words, I believe it’s their problem.”

Golovkin rarely misses opportunities to criticize Alvarez, but he does have respect for the Mexican star for stepping into the ring when others shied away. That could explain why Golovkin had tamed verbal jabs for Alvarez after losing to Dmitry Bivol in May.

Alvarez challenged himself by fighting a bigger opponent in Bivol at light heavyweight and he became the undisputed champion at super middleweight. Golovkin respects Alvarez’s boldness and perhaps waiting four years could be worth it if he’s able to take Alvarez’s super middleweight titles.

“I was certain that our fight was going to take place and it didn’t bother me,” Golovkin said about Alvarez’s loss to Bivol. “And I was happy with the fact that with this loss, he sort of brought himself back to reality or he was brought back to reality. He was somewhere in the clouds and now I’m hoping that our fight is going to be somewhat down to earth.”

Here is the full article from OC Counter Register
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Were those testing results really from eating beef ?

Was the Lara fight really a SD?

Was the 1st fight vs G really a Draw? But the second one, really a MD ?

Was Golovkin too dangerous at 34 y/o for Canelo , so that he had to vacate his mw wbc title to fight Khan, Beefy Smith and JCCjr?
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apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Were those testing results really from eating beef ?
WADA, NSAC, USADA, UKAD, WBC etc. seem to think so, hence the rule change. Both the NSAC and the WBC admitted they never thought Canelo ingested drugs, but had to be banned simply because he breached a threshold that no longer exists, due to reasons you're already aware of.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was the Lara fight really a SD?
The majority of the media and fan scorecards thought that Canelo legitimately beat Lara.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was the 1st fight vs G really a Draw? But the second one, really a MD ?
The outcome of the first fight was deservedly controversial, but the rematch wasn't.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was Golovkin too dangerous at 34 y/o for Canelo , so that he had to vacate his mw wbc title to fight Khan, Beefy Smith and JCCjr?
Canelo vacated his WBC title after Mauricio Sulaimán's governing body moved the goalposts by suddenly imposing an impossible 15-day deadline for GBP & K2 to come to an agreement for the Alvarez-GGG bout, despite the fact that both Canelo and Golden Boy were physically in Florida attending court addressing the $27m All Star Boxing lawsuit.

K2 and GGG have never attempted to make a fight with Canelo. They’ve always waited for offers from the Mexican’s side.

You were already aware of the All Star Boxing lawsuit situation, but it doesn't fit your preferred narrative, so you refuse to acknowledge it.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 11:28
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Were those testing results really from eating beef ?
WADA, NSAC, USADA, UKAD, WBC etc. seem to think so, hence the rule change. Both the NSAC and the WBC admitted they never thought Canelo ingested drugs, but had to be banned simply because he breached a threshold that no longer exists.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was the Lara fight really a SD?
The majority of the media and fan scorecards thought that Canelo legitimately beat Lara.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was the 1st fight vs G really a Draw? But the second one, really a MD ?
The outcome of the first fight was deservedly controversial, but the rematch wasn't.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was Golovkin too dangerous at 34 y/o for Canelo , so that he had to vacate his mw wbc title to fight Khan, Beefy Smith and JCCjr?
Canelo vacated his WBC title after Mauricio Sulaimán's governing body moved the goalposts by suddenly imposing an impossible 15-day deadline for GBP & K2 to come to an agreement for the Alvarez-GGG bout, despite the fact that both Canelo and Golden Boy were physically in Florida attending court addressing the $27m All Star Boxing lawsuit.

K2 and GGG have never attempted to make a fight with Canelo. They’ve always waited for offers from the Mexican’s side.

You were already aware of the All Star Boxing lawsuit situation, but it doesn't fit your preferred narrative, so you refuse to acknowledge it.
Your nativity is sometimes shocking to me until I have a moment to reflect on your track record here. You claim Canelo received the support of the governing bodies above claiming that they didn’t see Canelo ingested any illegal substances but just had to issue the ban on principle.

Obviously, these organizations lay claim to millions upon millions of dollars on Canelo’s shoulders. What Boxing couldn’t have is their , by far, top attraction labeled as dirty and removed from earning for any significant amount of time. Everyone remotely involved in Boxing from promoters to beer pourers make significantly more on a Canelo fight twice a year. Up and down the Vegas strip, a large spike in proceeds occur. To not realize this as well as site it as your main defense of Canelo’s dirty practices is very sad. Even for you and that really does say something.

In the history of Boxing has any other fighter tested positive from dirty Mexican beef? Before or since? Hilarious.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 11:28
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Were those testing results really from eating beef ?
WADA, NSAC, USADA, UKAD, WBC etc. seem to think so, hence the rule change. Both the NSAC and the WBC admitted they never thought Canelo ingested drugs, but had to be banned simply because he breached a threshold that no longer exists, due to reasons you're already aware of.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was the Lara fight really a SD?
The majority of the media and fan scorecards thought that Canelo legitimately beat Lara.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was the 1st fight vs G really a Draw? But the second one, really a MD ?
The outcome of the first fight was deservedly controversial, but the rematch wasn't.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was Golovkin too dangerous at 34 y/o for Canelo , so that he had to vacate his mw wbc title to fight Khan, Beefy Smith and JCCjr?
Canelo vacated his WBC title after Mauricio Sulaimán's governing body moved the goalposts by suddenly imposing an impossible 15-day deadline for GBP & K2 to come to an agreement for the Alvarez-GGG bout, despite the fact that both Canelo and Golden Boy were physically in Florida attending court addressing the $27m All Star Boxing lawsuit.

K2 and GGG have never attempted to make a fight with Canelo. They’ve always waited for offers from the Mexican’s side.

You were already aware of the All Star Boxing lawsuit situation, but it doesn't fit your preferred narrative, so you refuse to acknowledge it.
:lol: :lol:

he was tested and he got caught pissing hot. its there.

yeah sure, when Canelo had to defend his wbc mw titile against a 34 y/o GGG, he was pulling up the lawsuit excuse but when he fought Khan, Beefy and JCCjr, Canelo was ok and could fight. lol
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caldo2025 wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 11:51
Enlightened-One wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 11:28
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Were those testing results really from eating beef ?
WADA, NSAC, USADA, UKAD, WBC etc. seem to think so, hence the rule change. Both the NSAC and the WBC admitted they never thought Canelo ingested drugs, but had to be banned simply because he breached a threshold that no longer exists.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was the Lara fight really a SD?
The majority of the media and fan scorecards thought that Canelo legitimately beat Lara.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was the 1st fight vs G really a Draw? But the second one, really a MD ?
The outcome of the first fight was deservedly controversial, but the rematch wasn't.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was Golovkin too dangerous at 34 y/o for Canelo , so that he had to vacate his mw wbc title to fight Khan, Beefy Smith and JCCjr?
Canelo vacated his WBC title after Mauricio Sulaimán's governing body moved the goalposts by suddenly imposing an impossible 15-day deadline for GBP & K2 to come to an agreement for the Alvarez-GGG bout, despite the fact that both Canelo and Golden Boy were physically in Florida attending court addressing the $27m All Star Boxing lawsuit.

K2 and GGG have never attempted to make a fight with Canelo. They’ve always waited for offers from the Mexican’s side.

You were already aware of the All Star Boxing lawsuit situation, but it doesn't fit your preferred narrative, so you refuse to acknowledge it.
Your nativity is sometimes shocking to me until I have a moment to reflect on your track record here. You claim Canelo received the support of the governing bodies above claiming that they didn’t see Canelo ingested any illegal substances but just had to issue the ban on principle.

Obviously, these organizations lay claim to millions upon millions of dollars on Canelo’s shoulders. What Boxing couldn’t have is their , by far, top attraction labeled as dirty and removed from earning for any significant amount of time. Everyone remotely involved in Boxing from promoters to beer pourers make significantly more on a Canelo fight twice a year. Up and down the Vegas strip, a large spike in proceeds occur. To not realize this as well as site it as your main defense of Canelo’s dirty practices is very sad. Even for you and that really does say something.

In the history of Boxing has any other fighter tested positive from dirty Mexican beef? Before or since? Hilarious.
eo is just trolling typing the same ol' garbage. he is like a broken cuckoo clock. lol

gingerboy got tested positive 2 times with the same schit. probably the masking agents could not mask completely all the amount of "beef".
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caldo2025 wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 11:51
Enlightened-One wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 11:28
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Were those testing results really from eating beef ?
WADA, NSAC, USADA, UKAD, WBC etc. seem to think so, hence the rule change. Both the NSAC and the WBC admitted they never thought Canelo ingested drugs, but had to be banned simply because he breached a threshold that no longer exists.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was the Lara fight really a SD?
The majority of the media and fan scorecards thought that Canelo legitimately beat Lara.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was the 1st fight vs G really a Draw? But the second one, really a MD ?
The outcome of the first fight was deservedly controversial, but the rematch wasn't.
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 10:58Was Golovkin too dangerous at 34 y/o for Canelo , so that he had to vacate his mw wbc title to fight Khan, Beefy Smith and JCCjr?
Canelo vacated his WBC title after Mauricio Sulaimán's governing body moved the goalposts by suddenly imposing an impossible 15-day deadline for GBP & K2 to come to an agreement for the Alvarez-GGG bout, despite the fact that both Canelo and Golden Boy were physically in Florida attending court addressing the $27m All Star Boxing lawsuit.

K2 and GGG have never attempted to make a fight with Canelo. They’ve always waited for offers from the Mexican’s side.

You were already aware of the All Star Boxing lawsuit situation, but it doesn't fit your preferred narrative, so you refuse to acknowledge it.
Your nativity is sometimes shocking to me until I have a moment to reflect on your track record here. You claim Canelo received the support of the governing bodies above claiming that they didn’t see Canelo ingested any illegal substances but just had to issue the ban on principle.

Obviously, these organizations lay claim to millions upon millions of dollars on Canelo’s shoulders. What Boxing couldn’t have is their , by far, top attraction labeled as dirty and removed from earning for any significant amount of time. Everyone remotely involved in Boxing from promoters to beer pourers make significantly more on a Canelo fight twice a year. Up and down the Vegas strip, a large spike in proceeds occur. To not realize this as well as site it as your main defense of Canelo’s dirty practices is very sad. Even for you and that really does say something.

In the history of Boxing has any other fighter tested positive from dirty Mexican beef? Before or since? Hilarious.
What I've just written has nothing to do with naivety, because if you researched all those matters, you’d realise I made factually-accurate claims.

If you don’t want to research any of these matters, then you’re preferring to live in denial, because the objective truths of reality fail to adhere to your preferred narrative.

Now one could argue you’re being naïve, because you’re gullibly believing information from Canelo’s haters at the cost of comprehending real-world facts that are impossible to deny. :lol:
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apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 15:31
caldo2025 wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 11:51
Enlightened-One wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 11:28
WADA, NSAC, USADA, UKAD, WBC etc. seem to think so, hence the rule change. Both the NSAC and the WBC admitted they never thought Canelo ingested drugs, but had to be banned simply because he breached a threshold that no longer exists.

The majority of the media and fan scorecards thought that Canelo legitimately beat Lara.

The outcome of the first fight was deservedly controversial, but the rematch wasn't.


Canelo vacated his WBC title after Mauricio Sulaimán's governing body moved the goalposts by suddenly imposing an impossible 15-day deadline for GBP & K2 to come to an agreement for the Alvarez-GGG bout, despite the fact that both Canelo and Golden Boy were physically in Florida attending court addressing the $27m All Star Boxing lawsuit.

K2 and GGG have never attempted to make a fight with Canelo. They’ve always waited for offers from the Mexican’s side.

You were already aware of the All Star Boxing lawsuit situation, but it doesn't fit your preferred narrative, so you refuse to acknowledge it.
Your nativity is sometimes shocking to me until I have a moment to reflect on your track record here. You claim Canelo received the support of the governing bodies above claiming that they didn’t see Canelo ingested any illegal substances but just had to issue the ban on principle.

Obviously, these organizations lay claim to millions upon millions of dollars on Canelo’s shoulders. What Boxing couldn’t have is their , by far, top attraction labeled as dirty and removed from earning for any significant amount of time. Everyone remotely involved in Boxing from promoters to beer pourers make significantly more on a Canelo fight twice a year. Up and down the Vegas strip, a large spike in proceeds occur. To not realize this as well as site it as your main defense of Canelo’s dirty practices is very sad. Even for you and that really does say something.

In the history of Boxing has any other fighter tested positive from dirty Mexican beef? Before or since? Hilarious.
eo is just trolling typing the same ol' garbage. he is like a broken cuckoo clock. lol

gingerboy got tested positive 2 times with the same schit. probably the masking agents could not mask completely all the amount of "beef".
So you’re accusing me of being a troll, but you don’t have a counter-argument to refute any of claims?

Interesting! :lol:
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lol , eo you r a poor boring troll with ocd and narcissistic personality disorder. you r lamentable at trolling too. :wave: :OhYes:

Fact is Canelo got caught pissing hot, period! Canelo waited G to be 35 y/o and he still could not beat him. lol

Now Canelo is mad that he has to give 40y/o GGG another huge payday. :OhYes: :yay:
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apollo creed wrote: 17 Aug 2022, 08:14 lol , eo you r a poor boring troll with ocd and narcissistic personality disorder. you r lamentable at trolling too. :wave: :OhYes:

Fact is Canelo got caught pissing hot, period! Canelo waited G to be 35 y/o and he still could not beat him. lol

Now Canelo is mad that he has to give 40y/o GGG another huge payday. :OhYes: :yay:
Are you aware of the phrase "ad hominem" attack, because it's clear you're attacking the source of the person conveying real-world historical facts, whilst actively refraining from challenging their accuracy, which means you've already conceded defeat!

Thanks for that! :yay:
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EO….. Not many thought the second Alvarez GGG fight wasn’t controversial. I had GGG winning another decision. Best could have been a draw. No one Canelo won it on rounds.
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Boxingguru75 wrote: 17 Aug 2022, 13:36 EO….. Not many thought the second Alvarez GGG fight wasn’t controversial. I had GGG winning another decision. Best could have been a draw. No one Canelo won it on rounds.

The second fight result was as controversial as the first in that it was for all the belts.

It just didn't happen to have the most ludicrous scorecard ever inflicted upon a world title fight.

[118 - 110 ????]

Well done, Adalaide Byrd!

Your 'achievement' (or was it overachievement?) may never be matched.

Not even in a Canelo fight.
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apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 15:31
caldo2025 wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 11:51
Enlightened-One wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 11:28
WADA, NSAC, USADA, UKAD, WBC etc. seem to think so, hence the rule change. Both the NSAC and the WBC admitted they never thought Canelo ingested drugs, but had to be banned simply because he breached a threshold that no longer exists.

The majority of the media and fan scorecards thought that Canelo legitimately beat Lara.

The outcome of the first fight was deservedly controversial, but the rematch wasn't.


Canelo vacated his WBC title after Mauricio Sulaimán's governing body moved the goalposts by suddenly imposing an impossible 15-day deadline for GBP & K2 to come to an agreement for the Alvarez-GGG bout, despite the fact that both Canelo and Golden Boy were physically in Florida attending court addressing the $27m All Star Boxing lawsuit.

K2 and GGG have never attempted to make a fight with Canelo. They’ve always waited for offers from the Mexican’s side.

You were already aware of the All Star Boxing lawsuit situation, but it doesn't fit your preferred narrative, so you refuse to acknowledge it.
Your nativity is sometimes shocking to me until I have a moment to reflect on your track record here. You claim Canelo received the support of the governing bodies above claiming that they didn’t see Canelo ingested any illegal substances but just had to issue the ban on principle.

Obviously, these organizations lay claim to millions upon millions of dollars on Canelo’s shoulders. What Boxing couldn’t have is their , by far, top attraction labeled as dirty and removed from earning for any significant amount of time. Everyone remotely involved in Boxing from promoters to beer pourers make significantly more on a Canelo fight twice a year. Up and down the Vegas strip, a large spike in proceeds occur. To not realize this as well as site it as your main defense of Canelo’s dirty practices is very sad. Even for you and that really does say something.

In the history of Boxing has any other fighter tested positive from dirty Mexican beef? Before or since? Hilarious.
eo is just trolling typing the same ol' garbage. he is like a broken cuckoo clock. lol

gingerboy got tested positive 2 times with the same schit. probably the masking agents could not mask completely all the amount of "beef".
It is quite puzzling why EO has had this GGG hatred isn’t it? I don’t take EO for someone of Latin decent. I don’t remember him ever displaying the type of intellect that one would assume the ability to speak more than one language. Maybe someday on his deathbed, he will take a second to wish all of us luck and sign it “Adios, Miguel Conception”.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Aug 2022, 09:33
apollo creed wrote: 17 Aug 2022, 08:14 lol , eo you r a poor boring troll with ocd and narcissistic personality disorder. you r lamentable at trolling too. :wave: :OhYes:

Fact is Canelo got caught pissing hot, period! Canelo waited G to be 35 y/o and he still could not beat him. lol

Now Canelo is mad that he has to give 40y/o GGG another huge payday. :OhYes: :yay:
Are you aware of the phrase "ad hominem" attack, because it's clear you're attacking the source of the person conveying real-world historical facts, whilst actively refraining from challenging their accuracy, which means you've already conceded defeat!

Thanks for that! :yay:
:zzz: :zzz:

son, first you need to see a psychiatrist to help you, then you need to go out in the real world and see it. :OhYes: :TU:
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caldo2025 wrote: 17 Aug 2022, 16:41
apollo creed wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 15:31
caldo2025 wrote: 16 Aug 2022, 11:51

Your nativity is sometimes shocking to me until I have a moment to reflect on your track record here. You claim Canelo received the support of the governing bodies above claiming that they didn’t see Canelo ingested any illegal substances but just had to issue the ban on principle.

Obviously, these organizations lay claim to millions upon millions of dollars on Canelo’s shoulders. What Boxing couldn’t have is their , by far, top attraction labeled as dirty and removed from earning for any significant amount of time. Everyone remotely involved in Boxing from promoters to beer pourers make significantly more on a Canelo fight twice a year. Up and down the Vegas strip, a large spike in proceeds occur. To not realize this as well as site it as your main defense of Canelo’s dirty practices is very sad. Even for you and that really does say something.

In the history of Boxing has any other fighter tested positive from dirty Mexican beef? Before or since? Hilarious.
eo is just trolling typing the same ol' garbage. he is like a broken cuckoo clock. lol

gingerboy got tested positive 2 times with the same schit. probably the masking agents could not mask completely all the amount of "beef".
It is quite puzzling why EO has had this GGG hatred isn’t it? I don’t take EO for someone of Latin decent. I don’t remember him ever displaying the type of intellect that one would assume the ability to speak more than one language. Maybe someday on his deathbed, he will take a second to wish all of us luck and sign it “Adios, Miguel Conception”.
User Datsue described very well this type of attention seeker-troll like EO :

" Intelligent or not, he's a complete disingenuous arsehole who cloaks his own opinions in a veneer of bullshit while pretending that he's in fact impartial.
Yet watch him when it's someone he doesn't have a gaping wide-on for in the dock...!
It's like listening to one of those right-wing media types who thinks that saying the word "fact" can simply make inconvenient things that they don't like go away, & that if they keep thrashing things out in a long-winded convoluted fashion you'll lose sight of consensus reality & accept their Byzantine version of events that—despite their constant appeals to some sort of "objectivity"—is only supported by their opinions & their bullshit rhetoric. "

Pretty much eo may be a true case of narcissistic personality disorder with ocd which is pretty sad.
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Boxingguru75 wrote: 17 Aug 2022, 13:36 EO….. Not many thought the second Alvarez GGG fight wasn’t controversial. I had GGG winning another decision. Best could have been a draw. No one Canelo won it on rounds.
Actually I think the second fight vs Canelo is GGG's best performance. More power punches landed by G.

I'd say a draw would've been a fair decision in the second one. lol They even gave FMJ a MD, when he completely shut out Canelo.

4 rounds free advantage for Canelo!
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I did think it was funny how GGG said "I'm not gonna cut down any Athlete's Achievements" and then he proceeds to do just that for the next paragraph :lol:

As for other stuff that has come up in this thread.

Canelo vs Lara isn't the least bit controversial to me. Canelo won that clear.

GGG beat Canelo both times (Yes EO, the rematch was controversial all the same)

Canelo has one of the deepest resumes of any active boxer at the moment, and will continue adding to it for the next few years I'd imagine. Considering he started Boxing at so young an age, he may burn out while still in his 30's instead of early 40's, but I think he's still prime for now. For at least a little while longer.
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gilgamesh wrote: 18 Aug 2022, 13:36 I did think it was funny how GGG said "I'm not gonna cut down any Athlete's Achievements" and then he proceeds to do just that for the next paragraph :lol:

As for other stuff that has come up in this thread.

Canelo vs Lara isn't the least bit controversial to me. Canelo won that clear.

GGG beat Canelo both times (Yes EO, the rematch was controversial all the same)

Canelo has one of the deepest resumes of any active boxer at the moment, and will continue adding to it for the next few years I'd imagine. Considering he started Boxing at so young an age, he may burn out while still in his 30's instead of early 40's, but I think he's still prime for now. For at least a little while longer.
The thing is Canelo fought a 35 y/o GGG and he could not beat him and also he got caught pissing hot. This is the truth.

If they had to fight back in 2011-2012 when they have sparred together then G would've broken down Canelo. At that time G was 28 and Canelo 20. At that time Canelo had 35+ fights at pro, so he was a seasoned pro.
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The guy I like better always deserves to win close fights.

The guys I hate are the ones doing the ducking.

If your favorite boxer gets caught with peds, resort to all boxers do them.

Styles make fights, unless you don't like one style. He runs or has a punches chance only.

It's the promoters or the networks, not the boxers fault.

Boxing fans in a nutshell.
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In terms of the topic of this thread, Golovkin believes Canelo tried to "cheat" when the Mexican tested positive for traces of Clenbuterol.

But according to the current drug protocol standards determined by WADA and applied by all the anti-doping agencies around the globe, covering all sports, any athlete that submits the same levels of Clenbuterol that Canelo supplied, would be deemed as being clean.

I'm sure that people will get upset at me, inevitably compelling several mentally-deranged individuals to respond with a barrage of personal insults, but anyone with a modicum of intellect, coupled with the ability to read, would surely realise that everything I've written is factually-accurate.

Any mentally competent adult human being that can perform simple tasks without the assistance from carers provided by the community, would surely appreciate that facts don't care about feelings!

The truth is what it is.

A side note, on the 17th September, Canelo will become the first fighter to stop GGG. :TU:
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Its all in the mind ,, its the games people play , and GGG is playing them to perfection ,, i don't like to point fingers BUT they tested the water ect ect ect .. he knows what he's doing , he knows Canelo takes things a bit personal ,, he also knows when your trying hard for the ko , which according to Eddie Hearn Canelo is wanting to do , you can punch through tense muscles , punching through tense muscles makes them easier to see , punching through tense muscles , also contributes to fatigue , especielly the punches that miss ..

GGG wants this guy Canelo angry looking for a ko , and he's playing the games to get him that way ,, might work has well , not usually interested in guys fighting each other all the time , but this ones gonna be a good fight ,, just hope the judging and refereing are up to the same standard has the boxing .
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Gingerboy ain't gonna get no big credit for beating a 40 y/o GGG.

If Gingerboy wanted to prove he's a true mexican warrior he'd have fought his mw wbc mandatory in GGG back in 2016 instead of fighting chiny ww Khan, Beefy Smith and a washed up punching bag in JCCjr.
Canelo waited for G to get older i.e 35 y.o and he still could not beat G . lol Thats says a lot of who is the better tougher fighter.

And btw, isn't strange that atm Canelo is the bigger guy than GGG ?lol How ?? Its a wonder how he was able to make 154 lbs and then jump up to 168, 175 lbs ?!

Another guestion is if Benavidez didn't stupidly screwed his smw wbc title, would Canelo still wanted to be undisputed at 168 ?

Imagine if somehow GGG would've been caught with the same amount of clen like Canelo got caught, GGG would've probably been banned a few years and then crucified. His boxing career and his image would've been destroyed. But for ginegerboy it was just a culinary mistake. lol
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Enlightened-One wrote: 19 Aug 2022, 05:54 In terms of the topic of this thread, Golovkin believes Canelo tried to "cheat" when the Mexican tested positive for traces of Clenbuterol.

But according to the current drug protocol standards determined by WADA and applied by all the anti-doping agencies around the globe, covering all sports, any athlete that submits the same levels of Clenbuterol that Canelo supplied, would be deemed as being clean.

I'm sure that people will get upset at me, inevitably compelling several mentally-deranged individuals to respond with a barrage of personal insults, but anyone with a modicum of intellect, coupled with the ability to read, would surely realise that everything I've written is factually-accurate.

Any mentally competent adult human being that can perform simple tasks without the assistance from carers provided by the community, would surely appreciate that facts don't care about feelings!

The truth is what it is.

A side note, on the 17th September, Canelo will become the first fighter to stop GGG. :TU:
With your logic, if I break the law and go to prison or get fined because of it, or lose my job, I didn't really break the law because it is different now? Your logic is horribly flawed, and you are wrong. If that makes me mentally deranged so be it.

The thing about stupid people is that it takes a reasonable amount of intelligence to realize that you are stupid. Being a narcissist makes it worse.
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apollo creed wrote: 19 Aug 2022, 07:44 Gingerboy ain't gonna get no big credit for beating a 40 y/o GGG.

If Gingerboy wanted to prove he's a true mexican warrior he'd have fought his mw wbc mandatory in GGG back in 2016 instead of fighting chiny ww Khan, Beefy Smith and a washed up punching bag in JCCjr.
Canelo waited for G to get older i.e 35 y.o and he still could not beat G . lol Thats says a lot of who is the better tougher fighter.

:TU:
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