His last involvement in professional boxing was the Josh Taylor vs Jack Catterall fight where he was downgraded as a judge from an A Star Class to an A Class Official for his controversial scorecard.
One of many unfortunately.
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 30 Sep 2022, 10:04
by olij999
spudder56 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2022, 05:30
Oliver I can answer that absolutely no course’s whatsoever for refs etc
Interesting - I was wondering if anything had been introduced in the last few years. Thank you.
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 30 Sep 2022, 10:19
by Glass Joe
Who were the organization that did the KSI YouTube night?
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 30 Sep 2022, 12:20
by Coco
I think the way that it's done is through interview, then if accepted you do some 4 rounders with the score getting done from outside the ring, then if you get through that you get your license.
To get to the interview stage I think most have either boxed or already refer at some level.
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 30 Sep 2022, 12:54
by spudder56
You have an initial interview with your area council and if you pass that you go to as many shows as possible and do scoring tests where your scores are checked against the referees and if the council are happy that your scoring is good you then start refereeing contests with a qualified referee doing the scoring from ringside etc the whole process is subject to reports from other referee’s and area council members etc and then usually your progress is monitored by the area council every 6 months and then if the area council are happy they recommend you for a b license to the board head office at Cardiff plenty fall by the wayside for different reasons
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 30 Sep 2022, 12:55
by margaret thatcher
cant say that happily taking on an awful official like ijl gives me much confidence over the quality of biba's wefereeing and judging
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 30 Sep 2022, 12:58
by handsofstone
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Sep 2022, 12:55
cant say that happily taking on an awful official like ijl gives me much confidence over the quality of biba's wefereeing and judging
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 30 Sep 2022, 14:09
by Coco
Imagine not getting through the process because your scores didn't talley up with the scores of Catterill v Taylor or Barratt v Martinez
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 30 Sep 2022, 14:57
by Glass Joe
Seems like Lewis is taking legal action, judging by his Facebook comments.
Seems like all the had to do was keep his head down till the rematch and probably would have gone back to A star after the rematch.
Doubt he will win unless he has something real bad on them.
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 01 Oct 2022, 07:34
by spudder56
Don’t think it would be wise to take legal action against the board tbh on what grounds would he base his case against them ?
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 01 Oct 2022, 12:25
by Coco
spudder56 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2022, 07:34
Don’t think it would be wise to take legal action against the board tbh on what grounds would he base his case against them ?
He will say that Taylor was a clear winner and the board have an anti Scottish agenda
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 01 Oct 2022, 12:27
by Coco
I like the fact that the board have gone about their business quietly.
No you tube pre announcements
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 02 Oct 2022, 21:24
by Wee Tommy
spudder56 wrote: ↑30 Sep 2022, 12:54
You have an initial interview with your area council and if you pass that you go to as many shows as possible and do scoring tests where your scores are checked against the referees and if the council are happy that your scoring is good you then start refereeing contests with a qualified referee doing the scoring from ringside etc the whole process is subject to reports from other referee’s and area council members etc and then usually your progress is monitored by the area council every 6 months and then if the area council are happy they recommend you for a b license to the board head office at Cardiff plenty fall by the wayside for different reasons
By scoring for the away fighter too often?
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 04 Oct 2022, 13:56
by olij999
spudder56 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2022, 07:34
Don’t think it would be wise to take legal action against the board tbh on what grounds would he base his case against them ?
That's only because you don't like lawyers, spudder. I think he'd have a pretty strong case to make.
spudder56 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2022, 07:34
Don’t think it would be wise to take legal action against the board tbh on what grounds would he base his case against them ?
That's only because you don't like lawyers, spudder. I think he'd have a pretty strong case to make.
What makes you think that? His scorecard in Taylor/Catterall demonstrated incompetence at best and its not the first time it’s happened.
spudder56 wrote: ↑01 Oct 2022, 07:34
Don’t think it would be wise to take legal action against the board tbh on what grounds would he base his case against them ?
That's only because you don't like lawyers, spudder. I think he'd have a pretty strong case to make.
What makes you think that? His scorecard in Taylor/Catterall demonstrated incompetence at best and its not the first time it’s happened.
I don’t think he’d have much of a case at all.
Surely his only defence would be “lots of other judges are just as bad as me” ?
That's only because you don't like lawyers, spudder. I think he'd have a pretty strong case to make.
What makes you think that? His scorecard in Taylor/Catterall demonstrated incompetence at best and its not the first time it’s happened.
I don’t think he’d have much of a case at all.
Surely his only defence would be “lots of other judges are just as bad as me” ?
And that defence doesn’t wash. Plus his scorecard was the outlier on the Catterall/Taylor fight which made no sense and is extremely difficult to justify.
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 04 Oct 2022, 15:03
by margaret thatcher
ijl has a long history of terrible judging and weffing.........although im not sure if the bbbc had ever given him any formal warnings about it prior to the downgrade
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 04 Oct 2022, 15:16
by Glass Joe
was a JL classic moment
Re: Iain John Lewis
Posted: 04 Oct 2022, 15:29
by Sammy Scaff
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Oct 2022, 15:03
ijl has a long history of terrible judging and weffing.........although im not sure if the bbbc had ever given him any formal warnings about it prior to the downgrade
That's probably where he has a chance to win his case.
Have no inside knowledge of the situation but if they've not followed procedures correctly then he'll probably win and either get reinstated or paid off handsomely.
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Oct 2022, 15:03
ijl has a long history of terrible judging and weffing.........although im not sure if the bbbc had ever given him any formal warnings about it prior to the downgrade
That's probably where he has a chance to win his case.
Have no inside knowledge of the situation but if they've not followed procedures correctly then he'll probably win and either get reinstated or paid off handsomely.
Didn't he get a warning from the board when he gave a fighter 10 points in a round in a Prizefighter? In spite of the fact that the guy actually got knocked down and given a count in the round.
It's not that difficult for anyone to build a case against IJL showing incompetence, at the very least.
I think he'd have a pretty strong case to make.