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Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 18:10
by Twinkle Toes
These sort of things are only as good as the scoring system they are using to get the result. Considering there is little to no detail in that aspect of it. I'd take this with a huge dose of salt.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 18 Oct 2022, 22:05
by CaptainSpacerod
Woke nonsense. If she opened a shopping centre in Dublin I’m sure there would be a decent turnout but in terms of more widespread recognition she’’s fairly anonymous. That’s not to say that virtue signalling companies wouldn’t choose her to front a campaign over a much more well known male boxer purely to play the woke card
Very few boxers have real crossover appeal these days and are thereby marketable to the masses. In the uk only AJ and Fury are.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 03:04
by maverick23
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑18 Oct 2022, 22:05
Woke nonsense. If she opened a shopping centre in Dublin I’m sure there would be a decent turnout but in terms of more widespread recognition she’’s fairly anonymous. That’s not to say that virtue signalling companies wouldn’t choose her to front a campaign over a much more well known male boxer purely to play the woke card
Very few boxers have real crossover appeal these days and are thereby marketable to the masses. In the uk only AJ and Fury are.
Whether it’s woke nonsense or not, companies want to market women athletes more than ever before.
You’re right re: opening a shopping centre. Compared to guys like Fury, Taylor would bring a smaller amount of fans out in comparison. That doesn’t change the point though that more companies would likely want to work Taylor than Fury and have her associated with their brands. That’s why Fury’s only got a few deals (WoW Hydrate is the only one I can think of) and makes money out of merch/his own drink and Taylor was sponsored by Bank of Ireland and has reportedly turned down several big sponsorship deals.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 03:38
by mickey1975
Didn't her dad get shot?
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 06:00
by CaptainSpacerod
maverick23 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 03:04
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑18 Oct 2022, 22:05
Woke nonsense. If she opened a shopping centre in Dublin I’m sure there would be a decent turnout but in terms of more widespread recognition she’’s fairly anonymous. That’s not to say that virtue signalling companies wouldn’t choose her to front a campaign over a much more well known male boxer purely to play the woke card
Very few boxers have real crossover appeal these days and are thereby marketable to the masses. In the uk only AJ and Fury are.
Whether it’s woke nonsense or not, companies want to market women athletes more than ever before.
You’re right re: opening a shopping centre. Compared to guys like Fury, Taylor would bring a smaller amount of fans out in comparison. That doesn’t change the point though that more companies would likely want to work Taylor than Fury and have her associated with their brands. That’s why Fury’s only got a few deals (WoW Hydrate is the only one I can think of) and makes money out of merch/his own drink and Taylor was sponsored by Bank of Ireland and has reportedly turned down several big sponsorship deals.
I suppose we’re arguing over semantics here. If you and I set up rival car dealerships in the same city selling exactly the same cars and I used Fury to market mine and you used Taylor I don’t think you’d disagree that I’d get much more business than you. So in the traditional sense Fury is way more marketable.
However big business and the media fall over themselves to show us that they’re, superficially at least, diverse and inclusive. As such i agree with you that they’re more likely to hire Taylor than Fury to market their products? Does that make her more marketable than Fury or just a fortunate beneficiary of wokeism ?
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 06:17
by maverick23
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 06:00
maverick23 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 03:04
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑18 Oct 2022, 22:05
Woke nonsense. If she opened a shopping centre in Dublin I’m sure there would be a decent turnout but in terms of more widespread recognition she’’s fairly anonymous. That’s not to say that virtue signalling companies wouldn’t choose her to front a campaign over a much more well known male boxer purely to play the woke card
Very few boxers have real crossover appeal these days and are thereby marketable to the masses. In the uk only AJ and Fury are.
Whether it’s woke nonsense or not, companies want to market women athletes more than ever before.
You’re right re: opening a shopping centre. Compared to guys like Fury, Taylor would bring a smaller amount of fans out in comparison. That doesn’t change the point though that more companies would likely want to work Taylor than Fury and have her associated with their brands. That’s why Fury’s only got a few deals (WoW Hydrate is the only one I can think of) and makes money out of merch/his own drink and Taylor was sponsored by Bank of Ireland and has reportedly turned down several big sponsorship deals.
I suppose we’re arguing over semantics here. If you and I set up rival car dealerships in the same city selling exactly the same cars and I used Fury to market mine and you used Taylor I don’t think you’d disagree that I’d get much more business than you. So in the traditional sense Fury is way more marketable.
However big business and the media fall over themselves to show us that they’re, superficially at least, diverse and inclusive. As such i agree with you that they’re more likely to hire Taylor than Fury to market their products? Does that make her more marketable than Fury or just a fortunate beneficiary of wokeism ?
I agree with your comparisons and, whether we like it or not, it’s the world we live in now.
It does make her make more marketable than Fury because there will be far more big companies wanting her to market their products and services than Tyson. It may partly be down to her benefitting from wokeism but it’s just as much down to Tyson’s past indiscretions. If he doesn’t have the history of homophobia, failed drugs tests etc then there’d be far more companies wanting him to be a face of their company.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 06:35
by Wee Tommy
It’s easy to forget the other 49% of the population, who wouldn’t touch anything to do with Fury with a barge pole.
(Females)
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 07:24
by Boxerbeetle
Wow Katie Taylor must be a billionaire by now, with all these companies falling over themselves desperate to sponsor her.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 07:31
by maverick23
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 07:24
Wow Katie Taylor must be a billionaire by now, with all these companies falling over themselves desperate to sponsor her.
She chooses to do very little of it as she prefers to focus on boxing and her faith.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 07:39
by lefthook82
This is bollocks
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 07:50
by olij999
I would query it not by reference to gender but to the point in her career that she has reached. She's 36 and likely only has two or three more years left in her career. If you're a brand seeking to partner with a boxer, you want a boxer who fits all of the following: (a) well-known; (b) has a positive reputation free from controversy; (c) is either just hitting the peak of their career or is on their way up to it. Taylor ticks box (b) well enough, is 50:50 on (a), but fails on (c) entirely. The only exceptions for (c) are the Henry Coopers and Frank Brunos who are so massively known they still front ads in retirement.
Despite all that, she may still be the most marketable female boxer in the world. Am struggling to think of an active one to put above her, although a retired Nicola Adams may still be more marketable overall.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 08:15
by Boxerbeetle
maverick23 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 07:31
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 07:24
Wow Katie Taylor must be a billionaire by now, with all these companies falling over themselves desperate to sponsor her.
She chooses to do very little of it as she prefers to focus on boxing and her faith.
Which just confirms she’s an incredibly boring personality and not widely marketable in the slightest.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 08:31
by maverick23
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 08:15
maverick23 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 07:31
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 07:24
Wow Katie Taylor must be a billionaire by now, with all these companies falling over themselves desperate to sponsor her.
She chooses to do very little of it as she prefers to focus on boxing and her faith.
Which just confirms she’s an incredibly boring personality and not widely marketable in the slightest.
Boring doesn’t have much to do with whether companies want to work with you. AJ’s pretty dull yet has had deals with Hugo Boss, Under Armour, Lynx, Beats, Jaguar Land Rover, JD Sports, Lucozade and Audemars Piguet amongst others. Fury’s the polar opposite, always talking and getting headlines yet just has WoW Hydrate and his own energy drink.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 08:33
by maverick23
olij999 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 07:50
I would query it not by reference to gender but to the point in her career that she has reached. She's 36 and likely only has two or three more years left in her career. If you're a brand seeking to partner with a boxer, you want a boxer who fits all of the following: (a) well-known; (b) has a positive reputation free from controversy; (c) is either just hitting the peak of their career or is on their way up to it. Taylor ticks box (b) well enough, is 50:50 on (a), but fails on (c) entirely. The only exceptions for (c) are the Henry Coopers and Frank Brunos who are so massively known they still front ads in retirement.
Despite all that, she may still be the most marketable female boxer in the world. Am struggling to think of an active one to put above her, although a retired Nicola Adams may still be more marketable overall.
Re: c, whilst I think that’s what companies would look for, the bulk of the top 10 are sportspeople who are towards the end of their careers so they must be simply be looking at the now and not what happens in the next few years.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 08:38
by Boxerbeetle
maverick23 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 08:31
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 08:15
maverick23 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 07:31
She chooses to do very little of it as she prefers to focus on boxing and her faith.
Which just confirms she’s an incredibly boring personality and not widely marketable in the slightest.
Boring doesn’t have much to do with whether companies want to work with you. AJ’s pretty dull yet has had deals with Hugo Boss, Under Armour, Lynx, Beats, Jaguar Land Rover, JD Sports, Lucozade and Audemars Piguet amongst others. Fury’s the polar opposite, always talking and getting headlines yet just has WoW Hydrate and his own energy drink.
Indeed, AJ is a very good example of a genuinely marketable boxer. Which is exactly why it’s nonsensical to have Taylor ranked above him.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 08:46
by maverick23
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 08:38
maverick23 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 08:31
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 08:15
Which just confirms she’s an incredibly boring personality and not widely marketable in the slightest.
Boring doesn’t have much to do with whether companies want to work with you. AJ’s pretty dull yet has had deals with Hugo Boss, Under Armour, Lynx, Beats, Jaguar Land Rover, JD Sports, Lucozade and Audemars Piguet amongst others. Fury’s the polar opposite, always talking and getting headlines yet just has WoW Hydrate and his own energy drink.
Indeed, AJ is a very good example of a genuinely marketable boxer. Which is exactly why it’s nonsensical to have Taylor ranked above him.
AJ has alienated some people in the last 2 years. I had mates who refused to pay PPV for his first fight with Usyk after what he said at the BLM rally. I didn’t agree with their take on it but he’s certainly not as clean cut anymore.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 10:15
by Ruthless-RKO
It’s hard to be marketable when you’re not even marketed.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 11:48
by margaret thatcher
ya, bizarre some people are actually trying to argue this, if the argument is she's not offensive, well then just find pretty much any rando boxer people dont know. they'll divide people less than tyson fuy
no one in their right mind, if given the choice to have any boxer in the world to promote/sell to the public, would choose katie taylor
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 15:25
by Verdi
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 08:15
maverick23 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 07:31
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 07:24
Wow Katie Taylor must be a billionaire by now, with all these companies falling over themselves desperate to sponsor her.
She chooses to do very little of it as she prefers to focus on boxing and her faith.
Which just confirms she’s an incredibly boring personality and not widely marketable in the slightest.
Yeah she's a right dry lunch
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 15:59
by orbtastic
I saw creed 3 is out soon and looked on IMDb as I wondered if mr T was going to be in it.
Looked at the cast and saw some woman with a load of belts. Looked at her profile and it said she was one of the most successful women boxers.
Genuinely never heard of her
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 16:04
by Ruthless-RKO
orbtastic wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 15:59
I saw creed 3 is out soon and looked on IMDb as I wondered if mr T was going to be in it.
Looked at the cast and saw some woman with a load of belts. Looked at her profile and it said she was one of the most successful women boxers.
Genuinely never heard of her
I see Bellew is back in it.. and Canelo plays ‘Saul’..
The woman you’re referring to is Jessica McCaskill.
Hearn has been promoting her.
She beat that Norweigan lady Brækhus twice.
Undisputed at WW.
Lost to Katie Taylor a few good years back.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 16:54
by Boxerbeetle
Verdi wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 15:25
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 08:15
maverick23 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 07:31
She chooses to do very little of it as she prefers to focus on boxing and her faith.
Which just confirms she’s an incredibly boring personality and not widely marketable in the slightest.
Yeah she's a right dry lunch
Her favourite colour is beige
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 17:38
by Ruthless-RKO
Remember a few years back, there was someone on here with the name Katie Taylor.
Some on here had a few interactions with the person.
Was that actually her?
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 17:47
by joshj909
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 17:38
Remember a few years back, there was someone on here with the name Katie Taylor.
Some on here had a few interactions with the person.
Was that actually her?
It seems from the posts that it was her or atleast pretending to be her but there doesn't look like there's a reason why it wouldn't be her.
Re: Katie Taylor Named The Most Marketable Boxer In The World
Posted: 19 Oct 2022, 17:57
by Ruthless-RKO
joshj909 wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 17:47
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑19 Oct 2022, 17:38
Remember a few years back, there was someone on here with the name Katie Taylor.
Some on here had a few interactions with the person.
Was that actually her?
It seems from the posts that it was her or atleast pretending to be her but there doesn't look like there's a reason why it wouldn't be her.
Yeh. Signature was KT.
Don’t see why someone would pretend.
And only commented on a few Taylor threads.