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Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 03:56
by margaret thatcher
ive seen even some hardcore fans who suddenly think it's only a low blow if you uppercut the guy in the bottom of his balls
another usyk fight where the reaction is just weird.
people also complaining that it was stopped early, saying dubs did better than aj did in the rematch- despite winning fewer rounds, getting dropped, and stopped, etc.
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 03:59
by joshj909
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 03:56
ive seen even some hardcore fans who suddenly think it's only a low blow if you uppercut the guy in the bottom of his balls
another usyk fight where the reaction is just weird.
people also complaining that it was stopped early, saying dubs did better than aj did in the rematch- despite winning fewer rounds, getting dropped, and stopped, etc.
Some people will cherry pick facts to try and make it suit the narrative that they want to convince themself that they're smart or have the correct allegiances. I think you'd struggle to find anyone who didn't want Dubois to do better than AJ who now thinks that he did.
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 04:40
by Controversial
Josh Taylor on Twitter saying it was a legit punch and Dubois should be champ
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 04:47
by margaret thatcher
Controversial wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 04:40
Josh Taylor on Twitter saying it was a legit punch and Dubois should be champ
1. it wasnt - just look at it, clearly hit below the belt
2. if the ref had started counting usyk may have reacted differently
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 04:48
by handsofstone
Tbf it's not just fans claiming it was a legit knockdown, a lot of fighters as well, I've changed my mind I think it's low but it goes to show it's not just fans who don't understand the rules clearly even ex and current pros
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 04:53
by margaret thatcher
the phrase 'below the belt' comes specifically from the idea that hitting someone below the belt line is illegal, tbh i just assumed most people knew that hitting below the belt is a foul. i have heard refs say that if someone has high trunks it's legal to hit them on the belt, but never have i heard a referee say that hitting below that is okay
fair enough if people thought it was clean in real time, it can be hard to tell that quick and the angle was poor. but i dont know how people can look at the photos or watch replays from a clear angle and still maintain that dubois' glove does not connect below the belt

Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 04:56
by BigDoofus
Usyk’s shorts almost up to his armpit from this angle:
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:00
by The Gratest
What angle is that, the 'Fury family member' angle?

Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:07
by Coco
I don't think it was low but DDD lost credibility after collapsing from a jab to a non puncher
It was on the belt not below it, the law is there to stop you getting hit in the nuts
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:10
by margaret thatcher
Coco wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 05:07
I don't think it was low but DDD lost credibility after collapsing from a jab to a non puncher
It was on the belt not below it, the law is there to stop you getting hit in the nuts
is the scoring area of his glove not below the belt?

Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:11
by funso banjo baby
Was it a good fight???
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:13
by margaret thatcher
not really, usyk levels above and won every round. the low blow drama was the oonly moment for dubs really
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:14
by Coco
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 05:10
Coco wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 05:07
I don't think it was low but DDD lost credibility after collapsing from a jab to a non puncher
It was on the belt not below it, the law is there to stop you getting hit in the nuts
is the scoring area of his glove not below the belt?
But well above his nuts.
If the ref thought it was low he should have taken points off
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:15
by BigDoofus
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 05:10
Coco wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 05:07
I don't think it was low but DDD lost credibility after collapsing from a jab to a non puncher
It was on the belt not below it, the law is there to stop you getting hit in the nuts
is the scoring area of his glove not below the belt?
Not as it lands.
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:15
by margaret thatcher
Coco wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 05:14
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 05:10
Coco wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 05:07
I don't think it was low but DDD lost credibility after collapsing from a jab to a non puncher
It was on the belt not below it, the law is there to stop you getting hit in the nuts
is the scoring area of his glove not below the belt?
But well above his nuts.
If the ref thought it was low he should have taken points off
as you said, below the belt is illegal. since when is the rule that it has to hit the guy in the nuts to be low?
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:16
by margaret thatcher
that shot, which is from a bad angle anyway (no surprise lol) is just the glove coming up
here you can see it make contact well below the belt line, land and then move up. boxing kingdom's photo is late in the sequence after the shot's already connected
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:21
by Ruthless-RKO
Dubois must be loving this.
No one talking about how he lost to a jab against
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:22
by margaret thatcher
lol ya, loses pretty much every round, gets dropped multiple times, stopped by a jab............yet he's the real champ

Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:25
by margaret thatcher
reminds me of when jesse vargas was 'robbed' of a ko of tim bradley when he slightly buzzed him late in their fight and the bell rung about 10 seconds early
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:26
by Controversial
I’m sure if the tables were turned Dubois and his team would say it was low. The BBBoC rule book says that “you are not permitted to hit below the belt” and “the belt is defined an an imaginary line drawn across the body from the top of the hip bones”
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:28
by margaret thatcher
right, you dont need a blast to the bottom of the nuts for it to be low.
top of the hips are well away from the ol yellers

Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:34
by tigermoth87
Coco wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 05:14
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 05:10
Coco wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 05:07
I don't think it was low but DDD lost credibility after collapsing from a jab to a non puncher
It was on the belt not below it, the law is there to stop you getting hit in the nuts
is the scoring area of his glove not below the belt?
But well above his nuts.
If the ref thought it was low he should have taken points off
Not if the ref thought it was accidental.
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:37
by Ruthless-RKO
Controversial wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 05:26
I’m sure if the tables were turned Dubois and his team would say it was low. The BBBoC rule book says that “you are not permitted to hit below the belt” and “the belt is defined an an imaginary line drawn across the body from the top of the hip bones”
Yes of course.
They gonna back their team.
Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 05:41
by tonyevs
BigDoofus wrote: ↑27 Aug 2023, 04:56
Usyk’s shorts almost up to his armpit from this angle:
The top of Usyks shorts were at the level of his elbow which is fine.
Compare this to how high Fury wears his shorts when fighting, where his elbow will be typically well below the waist band. Yet photos of Fury wearing shorts outside of the ring his elbow is well above waist band indicating the high shorts as intentional.

Re: poll: was it a low blow
Posted: 27 Aug 2023, 09:11
by Ruthless-RKO