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Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 14:19
by KiwiRider
Fray Bentos wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 05:17 He is 35, perennially out of shape, not been interested since the third Wilder fight, has lots of money and a family and is going to make far more money fighting Ngannou again or fighting other celeb types like WWE wrestlers or Olympic shotputters - like I said in another post, if he could get away boxing a bear, he would and people would pay a lot of money to watch it.

He is not going to fight Uysk for relatively chump change - he isn't going to do it at this juncture.
:TU: My thoughts exactly. The only thing I can add to that is Fury will d*ck everyone around for months over it, tease the fight, blame the other guy, put on more weight, and ultimately duck Uysk and have his belt (eventually) taken off him.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 14:21
by The Gratest
I think the only way to get round all this without looking too bad is to mention Anthony Joshua.
Is he still in his dark room? Has he lost the key and now accidentally locked in? Will he eventually emerge with a lion's mane and deep roar? Fury's bois need to zero in on this now!

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 14:24
by KiwiRider
Steveh583 wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 08:47 With the millions on the table I wouldn’t be surprised if he cashes out
I don't think his ego could take the inevitable loss. In his mind he is still the greatest boxer ever lived.
He will just have to find and easier opponent than an inactive 0-0 novice recovering from major surgery- or Chisora IV

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 14:27
by margaret thatcher
The Gratest wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 14:21 I think the only way to get round all this without looking too bad is to mention Anthony Joshua.
Is he still in his dark room? Has he lost the key and now accidentally locked in? Will he eventually emerge with a lion's mane and deep roar? Fury's bois need to zero in on this now!
this one was one of my faves. redback rasta randomly posting comments robert garcia made months ago, mistakenly thinking it was aj who made them, them bitching at AJ for being disrespectful to garcia with the comments garcia actually made himself. so f@cking eager to get at joshua :lol:

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Redback Rasta wrote: 16 Aug 2023, 23:17 Joshua trainer bashing AGAIN

“When you’re with a fighter everything is going well then at the end something goes wrong and the first one to blame is the trainer.”

“The way it was going, the people involved, things they were doing to prepare for a fight, things were going on in training camp I would just sit and laugh by myself.

I told the management team can you just please fly me home I’m not going to be part of this, they convinced me to stay, change things around, which I did – I changed things around and we ended up doing good.

But one week into camp I was ready to leave camp so if that was the case [that they weren’t happy with me] they should have sent me home when I wanted to go.”

Comment : Is this guy ever going to take responsibility for his failures? I doubt it.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 14:32
by margaret thatcher
since fury says there is a legal obligation to fight in december, and that usyk has no choice, im optimistic it will happen :lol:

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 14:44
by BigDoofus
big lennox wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 14:03Joshua, despite being upset and, probably, a bit concussed, showed up to the post fight press conference with Uysk.
HIP! HIP!
HOORAY!!

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 14:48
by big lennox
BigDoofus wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 14:44
big lennox wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 14:03Joshua, despite being upset and, probably, a bit concussed, showed up to the post fight press conference with Uysk.
HIP! HIP!
HOORAY!!
I am comparing apples with pears, of course: Joshua had just lost to the Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World, and Fury had just lost to a 37 year old making his professional debut..

What did you think of Fury's illegal use of the elbow?

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 14:49
by ALI
Usyk not letting up on December 23rd date:

https://youtu.be/V_HzgOzZGck?si=now9667scAc5AsQD

There are obviously stipulations in the contract that allow Fury to postpone, otherwise Fury and Warren would not have been behaving like rabbits caught in headlights post fight when pressed about the December date. Most likely the small nick on Fury's eye will get him a doctors line and the fights off, at least for now.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 14:50
by The Gratest
margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 14:27
The Gratest wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 14:21 I think the only way to get round all this without looking too bad is to mention Anthony Joshua.
Is he still in his dark room? Has he lost the key and now accidentally locked in? Will he eventually emerge with a lion's mane and deep roar? Fury's bois need to zero in on this now!
this one was one of my faves. redback rasta randomly posting comments robert garcia made months ago, mistakenly thinking it was aj who made them, them bitching at AJ for being disrespectful to garcia with the comments garcia actually made himself. so f@cking eager to get at joshua :lol:

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Redback Rasta wrote: 16 Aug 2023, 23:17 Joshua trainer bashing AGAIN

“When you’re with a fighter everything is going well then at the end something goes wrong and the first one to blame is the trainer.”

“The way it was going, the people involved, things they were doing to prepare for a fight, things were going on in training camp I would just sit and laugh by myself.

I told the management team can you just please fly me home I’m not going to be part of this, they convinced me to stay, change things around, which I did – I changed things around and we ended up doing good.

But one week into camp I was ready to leave camp so if that was the case [that they weren’t happy with me] they should have sent me home when I wanted to go.”

Comment : Is this guy ever going to take responsibility for his failures? I doubt it.
:lol:
He'll be furious when he finds out Eddie Hearn was lying about the Fury v Usyk fight happening in December.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 15:31
by Boxerbeetle
KiwiRider wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 14:24
Steveh583 wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 08:47 With the millions on the table I wouldn’t be surprised if he cashes out
I don't think his ego could take the inevitable loss. In his mind he is still the greatest boxer ever lived.
He will just have to find and easier opponent than an inactive 0-0 novice recovering from major surgery- or Chisora IV
Nah, Fury is painfully aware he isn’t the greatest boxer who ever lived, which is why he’s cherry picked so carefully throughout his career.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 15:49
by cormack
quack quack

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 17:15
by coneye
Said weeks ago it won't happen i'll say it again , only this time i'll add it DEFINETLY won't happen ,,, people can hand on to the hope that it will because Fury said he'll sue Usyk if he does'nt fight in dec , but remember were talking Fury here , and whatever contracts they have , if in fact they do have one don't matter one iota , when stacked up against a specelist and a doctors note , personaly i never believed there was a contract signed at any time , it was and is hot air and bluster to generate interest and sales for that load of shite over the weekend ,, .

The conmans shown he's King of the conmen once again

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 17:18
by polecateddy
Fury will fart around till New Year, enjoying his cake and chocolates, and be as fat as butter in January. He's never going to be ready for anything in the spring.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 17:46
by jwfg
coneye wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 17:15 Said weeks ago it won't happen i'll say it again , only this time i'll add it DEFINETLY won't happen ,,, people can hand on to the hope that it will because Fury said he'll sue Usyk if he does'nt fight in dec , but remember were talking Fury here , and whatever contracts they have , if in fact they do have one don't matter one iota , when stacked up against a specelist and a doctors note , personaly i never believed there was a contract signed at any time , it was and is hot air and bluster to generate interest and sales for that load of shite over the weekend ,, .

The conmans shown he's King of the conmen once again
I think he'll spiral after last night and might retire after Xmas.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 17:51
by Syntax Error
He was never going to fight on December 23rd, win, lose, draw, look crap or look great.

They plucked that date out of the air so that the WBC didn't strip him, because it will be a year since he last defended.

He will obviously be granted an extension, because he needs time to heal and regroup.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 17:55
by Syntax Error
jwfg wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 17:46
coneye wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 17:15 Said weeks ago it won't happen i'll say it again , only this time i'll add it DEFINETLY won't happen ,,, people can hand on to the hope that it will because Fury said he'll sue Usyk if he does'nt fight in dec , but remember were talking Fury here , and whatever contracts they have , if in fact they do have one don't matter one iota , when stacked up against a specelist and a doctors note , personaly i never believed there was a contract signed at any time , it was and is hot air and bluster to generate interest and sales for that load of shite over the weekend ,, .

The conmans shown he's King of the conmen once again
I think he'll spiral after last night and might retire after Xmas.
Yep, he tends to 'retire' every other month, but miraculously still manages to keep reigning as the WBC HW champion.

I wonder if the WBC will keep putting up with this though?

They're not like the WBA who have 25 HW champions, so that's plenty of sanctioning fees, the WBC only have Fury and he rarely defends the title.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 18:02
by Coco
Syntax Error wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 17:55
jwfg wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 17:46
coneye wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 17:15 Said weeks ago it won't happen i'll say it again , only this time i'll add it DEFINETLY won't happen ,,, people can hand on to the hope that it will because Fury said he'll sue Usyk if he does'nt fight in dec , but remember were talking Fury here , and whatever contracts they have , if in fact they do have one don't matter one iota , when stacked up against a specelist and a doctors note , personaly i never believed there was a contract signed at any time , it was and is hot air and bluster to generate interest and sales for that load of shite over the weekend ,, .

The conmans shown he's King of the conmen once again
I think he'll spiral after last night and might retire after Xmas.
Yep, he tends to 'retire' every other month, but miraculously still manages to keep reigning as the WBC HW champion.

I wonder if the WBC will keep putting up with this though?

They're not like the WBA who have 25 HW champions, so that's plenty of sanctioning fees, the WBC only have Fury and he rarely defends the title.
I'm sure that they got a fee for this circus act, and are waiting for the pot of gold with Usyk and AJ, maybe even a rematch with the UFC.

They aren't doing it out of the kindness of their heart, Fury is the biggest cash cow out there.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 18:28
by KiwiRider
polecateddy wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 17:18 Fury will fart around till New Year, enjoying his cake and chocolates, and be as fat as butter in January. He's never going to be ready for anything in the spring.
:lol: You make is sound like he is a bear.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 29 Oct 2023, 21:05
by margaret thatcher
tbh i would say that bears and tyson fury have uncanny resemblances to each other

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 03:12
by 1370355
SeanBrennan wrote: 29 Oct 2023, 09:03 I don't think he will, I do think it will be Spring 2024 though. Unless he rematches Ngannou.dinosaur game
Tyson Fury's brief time with WWE appears to be over after the current WBC heavyweight champion has dedicated his future to boxing.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 04:01
by Controversial
I don’t think he will duck it, his reputation has taken a hiding after this debacle so to dodge it now won’t look good. I do wonder how much he has left though, from the bits I’ve seen he looked awful.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 05:23
by jamesmcdonnell
Controversial wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 04:01 I don’t think he will duck it, his reputation has taken a hiding after this debacle so to dodge it now won’t look good. I do wonder how much he has left though, from the bits I’ve seen he looked awful.
I don't think he gives a single let alone two shites

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 07:02
by Controversial
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 05:23
Controversial wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 04:01 I don’t think he will duck it, his reputation has taken a hiding after this debacle so to dodge it now won’t look good. I do wonder how much he has left though, from the bits I’ve seen he looked awful.
I don't think he gives a single let alone two shites
Probably not but he can’t really come up with more excuses to duck Usyk. His only other option is to retire and would he really want to go out with the Ngannou fight as his last fight, his bragging rights would take a hammering.

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 07:10
by The Gratest
“Tyson did what he always does and came away with the win and now we’ll look to the future, we know the fight’s been made with Usyk and hopefully there will be a date nailed down soon, as soon as Tyson feels like he’s ready to go,” Warren said. “It was a harder fight than [Derek] Chisora and it was a harder fight than Dillian Whyte, that’s a fact. No, we wont be going for that [the December 23 date], he won’t be ready for that. It was a tough, tough fight. He’ll need time out to heal his body, [the] time that takes, and then get back into camp, he’ll only have about five or six weeks training, so it’s not going to happen.”

Well, I, along with several million others, can only hope that the silver lining to this one is a "Christmas with the Furys" special on Netflix.

"Eeeeh, pass me that chipolata wrapped in bacon. This is a message to the gapped toothed rabbit! You're no longer a sausage...you're a chipolata! A chipolata!!"

Re: Will Fury duck Usyk?

Posted: 30 Oct 2023, 07:50
by jamesmcdonnell
Controversial wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 07:02
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 05:23
Controversial wrote: 30 Oct 2023, 04:01 I don’t think he will duck it, his reputation has taken a hiding after this debacle so to dodge it now won’t look good. I do wonder how much he has left though, from the bits I’ve seen he looked awful.
I don't think he gives a single let alone two shites
Probably not but he can’t really come up with more excuses to duck Usyk. His only other option is to retire and would he really want to go out with the Ngannou fight as his last fight, his bragging rights would take a hammering.
Sadly there's probably still enough rubes out there to buy whatever he's selling. Claim that Usyks ducking, and rematch Ngannou, this time with the belts on the line again in Saudi, it will sell no problem.

Gets in proper shape, wins emphatically, or at least convincingly, 3rd fight, or maybe yet another wilder fight.

There's still plenty of options.

I don't see usyk fight happening now, and he's too greedy to retire.