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Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:29
by margaret thatcher
eh, it was boarderline to me. it wasnt a beatdown where he was regularly hurting him or landing many flush shots. most of it was glancing stuff as ndodgeni moved his head. ndod never down or really busted up. only 2 rounds left. but he was well behind and under pressure, so i understand it
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:30
by skanksta
skanksta wrote: ↑06 Jan 2024, 22:10
Hard to believe he's the same guy I watched getting stopped in 6 by Dlomo from ringside in Soweto...!
C'mon Mags ! You not gonna bite...?
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:31
by margaret thatcher
i just assumed you are such a fiend that it was actually true

Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:33
by skanksta
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Jan 2024, 22:29
eh, it was boarderline to me. it wasnt a beatdown where he was regularly hurting him or landing many flush shots. most of it was glancing stuff as ndodgeni moved his head. ndod never down or really busted up. only 2 rounds left. but he was well behind and under pressure, so i understand it
He was just getting beaten up.
The Wasp easily had the skillz to hang with and even outbox Barb, but for power and hardness it was "levels".
Sure he coulda lasted another round or 3, but ref gotta protect fighters..
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:33
by skanksta
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Jan 2024, 22:31
i just assumed you are such a fiend that it was actually true
Lol of course not !
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:35
by margaret thatcher
he was defusing a lot of those shots with head movement. never down or really all that shook up either. still moving and hitting throwing back. 8th wasnt even as bad as the 7th. only two rounds left. i get it, he was well behind and under pressure, but it wasnt one of those fights where someone better jump in quick
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:35
by Perseus
Good stoppage.
If it's not competive there is no good reason to let it go the distance.
The losing fighter wanting to continue never was or ever will be a good reason to let a beatdown continue.
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:37
by margaret thatcher
Perseus wrote: ↑06 Jan 2024, 22:35
Good stoppage.
If it's not competive there is no good reason to let it go the distance.
this would lead to all sorts of fights being stopped way too quick, many fights are turned around after one guy has been in control
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:37
by skanksta
I think he shoulda got "one more round"
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:41
by margaret thatcher
hell why not have stopped it in the 4th-5th, ndodgeni was obviously highly unlikely to win by then anyway. one could argue that was the case before the opening bell too though

Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:43
by margaret thatcher
maybe boxing should have that old amateur rsco rule - you get up by a certain amount of points , auto stoppage!
i guess it would be a time saver when it comes to these nailed to go the distance fights where one guy is clearly superior
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:46
by margaret thatcher
ohara vs rolly would be a good fight, would rather see that than garcia-rolly
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:49
by margaret thatcher
much better this time with not having 40+ min waits between fights, dazn usa shows have been awful for that
on paper, ohara-barro looks like the best fight

Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:51
by skanksta
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Jan 2024, 22:41
hell why not have stopped it in the 4th-5th, ndodgeni was obviously highly unlikely to win by then anyway. one could argue that was the case before the opening bell too though
Exactly.
But you gotta stop it somewhere..
Ref did look a bit too keen to stop it and it
was a tad early - Americans like to call that a British stoppage, but it's pretty common everywhere. Can't blame the ref for not wanting to be the guy that stopped one too late.
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:52
by margaret thatcher
barosso doing a good job of looking 60 years old, he did look pretty good last time though
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:52
by Perseus
Yes, yes.
Boxing needs more lop- sided rounds and more fights that are not remotely competitive.
'One more" round never caused permanent damage to an over matched fighter...
Never fear.........Golden Boy will provide the uncompetitive mismatch you were hoping to see.
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:53
by margaret thatcher
Perseus wrote: ↑06 Jan 2024, 22:52
Yes, yes.
Boxing needs more rounds and more fights that are not remotely competitive.
'One more" round never caused permanent damage to an overrated fighter...
Never fear.........Golden Boy will provide the uncompetitive mismatch you were hoping to see.
yep, hell stop any fight as soon as one guy wins three strraaight rounds, it will definitely cause each guy less damage
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:55
by margaret thatcher
omg
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Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:56
by margaret thatcher
barosso badly hurts ohara and drops him twice! ref stops it ! 1 round blowout by granps

Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:58
by skanksta
Was about to write....
"forgot what a beautiful freak OHD is for boxing - very compact with freakish long arms.."
But wow ! That didn't even get to age well !
Well done Barroso - caught him cold and finished him.

Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:58
by Perseus
Wow.
Didn't expect that.
Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 22:59
by margaret thatcher
ya, it was an uncompetitive mismatch to be sure

Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 23:01
by skanksta
nah he just got caught cold - very clever tactics apparently.
HIs trainer told him to go for him in R1 - "he's a slow starter"

Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 23:02
by margaret thatcher
40 years old

Re: Vergil Ortiz vs. Fredrick Lawson | DAZN - January 6, 2023
Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 23:02
by handsofstone
Barosso stops Davies in a round correct call,. He was out of it after the first KD, fcn class don't believe the hype when it comes to Ohara's recent charm offensive, he's a gobshite still and a British level fighter
In saying that Barosso looks 10 years older than the Tyson who fought Jones ,legit looks older than any boxer I've seen in a ring including trashy ex pro exhibitions but he short circuited Davies with that initial left