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Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 26 Mar 2024, 20:22
by margaret thatcher
i loved foster jr's ko of a rampaging leva kirokosyan for the ebu title. one of the fights i can remember like yesterday. leva had badly bashed up scott lawton shortly before and was a solid fave if i recall. foster was under heavy pressure from the go but landed some crisp straight shots as kirk charged in with his bombs
id say foster had a pretty good career tbh
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 27 Mar 2024, 03:26
by prewarboxing
David Wilde, son of Jimmy, Britain’s greatest flyweight, did not achieve much. One who did was Brian London, son of Jack, both British heavyweight champions.
Miles Templeton
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 27 Mar 2024, 03:32
by forcefraser
Jezzer Maggot has done considerably better than his father Ivor
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 27 Mar 2024, 16:00
by deadpan
Steve Collins Jnr certainly didn't reach the heights of his Dad.
His final fight was a loss to Nathan Quarless, cousin of Noel, the ever entertaining Scouse HW!
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 07:33
by SeanBrennan
deadpan wrote: ↑27 Mar 2024, 16:00
Steve Collins Jnr certainly didn't reach the heights of his Dad.
His final fight was a loss to Nathan Quarless, cousin of Noel, the ever entertaining Scouse HW!
dropped back into the amateurs now I believe.
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 07:33
by SeanBrennan
prewarboxing wrote: ↑27 Mar 2024, 03:26
David Wilde, son of Jimmy, Britain’s greatest flyweight, did not achieve much. One who did was Brian London, son of Jack, both British heavyweight champions.
Miles Templeton
great shout re the Londons.
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 14:43
by wrighty
I think Shane Mcguigan was an Ulster Champion in the amateurs. Obviously he never turned over.
I'm America you had Ronald Hearns giving it a go.
Ross Minter had a set of bollocks on him and struck me as a nice chap
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 14:45
by wrighty
Coco wrote: ↑26 Mar 2024, 18:11
Steve Robinson's boy is Welsh champ
Steve was mustard. I know he had a lot of losses but his story is inspiring. Didn't he win a ebu belt after losing to Nas too?
I would have loved to have seen him and Charles Shepherd fight. Nice blend of styles
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 15:10
by SeanBrennan
wrighty wrote: ↑28 Mar 2024, 14:45
Coco wrote: ↑26 Mar 2024, 18:11
Steve Robinson's boy is Welsh champ
Steve was mustard. I know he had a lot of losses but his story is inspiring. Didn't he win a ebu belt after losing to Nas too?
I would have loved to have seen him and Charles Shepherd fight. Nice blend of styles
He sure did, 10 fights after the Naz fight. Ironically he won it against Naz's last opponent Calvo, after also losing an attempt at the same (EBU) title to another Naz opponent in Billy Hardy. He went on to lose it but fight for it again. He defended the EBU title twice and was fighting for titles up until his penultimate fight. What a fighter! Still looks super healthy and happy too.
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 18:45
by Giancarlo
deadpan wrote: ↑27 Mar 2024, 16:00
Steve Collins Jnr certainly didn't reach the heights of his Dad.
His final fight was a loss to Nathan Quarless, cousin of Noel, the ever entertaining Scouse HW!
Agree with you about Noel, deadpan. Great puncher + glass chin = entertainment at heavyweight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emgWXHI ... Vzcw%3D%3D
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 18:49
by SeanBrennan
Giancarlo wrote: ↑28 Mar 2024, 18:45
deadpan wrote: ↑27 Mar 2024, 16:00
Steve Collins Jnr certainly didn't reach the heights of his Dad.
His final fight was a loss to Nathan Quarless, cousin of Noel, the ever entertaining Scouse HW!
Agree with you about Noel, deadpan. Great puncher + glass chin = entertainment at heavyweight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emgWXHI ... Vzcw%3D%3D
thanks for sharing Giancarlo, 5:13 for the second round, stoppage half a minute into it.
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 18:58
by Giancarlo
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑28 Mar 2024, 18:49
Giancarlo wrote: ↑28 Mar 2024, 18:45
deadpan wrote: ↑27 Mar 2024, 16:00
Steve Collins Jnr certainly didn't reach the heights of his Dad.
His final fight was a loss to Nathan Quarless, cousin of Noel, the ever entertaining Scouse HW!
Agree with you about Noel, deadpan. Great puncher + glass chin = entertainment at heavyweight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emgWXHI ... Vzcw%3D%3D
thanks for sharing Giancarlo, 5:13 for the second round, stoppage half a minute into it.
No worries Sean. Glad you enjoyed it. His fight with Anders Eklund is on youtube too.
Everything about that video is gold. Lots of faces from that era that fans of a certain vintage will recognise.
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 19:11
by SeanBrennan
Giancarlo wrote: ↑28 Mar 2024, 18:58
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑28 Mar 2024, 18:49
thanks for sharing Giancarlo, 5:13 for the second round, stoppage half a minute into it.
No worries Sean. Glad you enjoyed it. His fight with Anders Eklund is on youtube too.
Everything about that video is gold. Lots of faces from that era that fans of a certain vintage will recognise.
thanks Giancarlo watching the Eklund one now thanks for suggesting, very much appreciated.
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 21:33
by skanksta
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑26 Mar 2024, 20:22
i loved foster jr's ko of a rampaging leva kirokosyan for the ebu title. one of the fights i can remember like yesterday
. leva had badly bashed up scott lawton shortly before and was a solid fave if i recall. foster was under heavy pressure from the go but landed some crisp straight shots as kirk charged in with his bombs
id say foster had a pretty good career tbh
I had loads of big bets on Leva for the Lawton fight !
Gave about half of it back on Foster !

Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 28 Mar 2024, 21:34
by skanksta
I guess there are loads of successful sons that we don't know because the dad's were nothing special ?
We notice the Jordi Cruyffs more than the Frank Lampard Jrs...
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 07:00
by THEBUTCH
No one ran around a corner flag after scoring with more enthusiasm than Lampard snr
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Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 07:10
by margaret thatcher
skanksta wrote: ↑28 Mar 2024, 21:34
I guess there are loads of successful sons that we don't know because the dad's were nothing special ?
We notice the Jordi Cruyffs more than the Frank Lampard Jrs...
true, to use a usa example chad dawson's dad was 1-4 for example . robert guerrero's was 0-7 with 6 losses by ko
mediocre dads can have good kids, good dads can have mediocre kids
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 11:05
by deadpan
Giancarlo wrote: ↑28 Mar 2024, 18:45
deadpan wrote: ↑27 Mar 2024, 16:00
Steve Collins Jnr certainly didn't reach the heights of his Dad.
His final fight was a loss to Nathan Quarless, cousin of Noel, the ever entertaining Scouse HW!
Agree with you about Noel, deadpan. Great puncher + glass chin = entertainment at heavyweight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emgWXHI ... Vzcw%3D%3D
Yes! A great era.
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 17:19
by SeanBrennan
rhino222 wrote: ↑26 Mar 2024, 19:04
Steve the viking Foster had a reasonable career and i think won commonwealth title.
His son, also Steve, looked the absolute business in his early fights and was given the big push by sky (i think)... but he ended up having nothing more than a decent career. There were even more trinket belts around in those days.
he did indeed with the CW at light middle. Challenged for so many other titles too, deserved his nickname fully.
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 18:04
by JamesPhilips
skanksta wrote: ↑28 Mar 2024, 21:34
I guess there are loads of successful sons that we don't know because the dad's were nothing special ?
We notice the Jordi Cruyffs more than the Frank Lampard Jrs...
Haaland?
Did Henry or George Cooper have any sons btw?
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 18:21
by SeanBrennan
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑29 Mar 2024, 18:04
skanksta wrote: ↑28 Mar 2024, 21:34
I guess there are loads of successful sons that we don't know because the dad's were nothing special ?
We notice the Jordi Cruyffs more than the Frank Lampard Jrs...
Haaland?
Did Henry or George Cooper have any sons btw?
Henry had 2 sons, Henry and John.
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2011 ... r-obituary
I can't see any detail on George's offspring.
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 18:24
by JamesPhilips
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑29 Mar 2024, 18:21
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑29 Mar 2024, 18:04
skanksta wrote: ↑28 Mar 2024, 21:34
I guess there are loads of successful sons that we don't know because the dad's were nothing special ?
We notice the Jordi Cruyffs more than the Frank Lampard Jrs...
Haaland?
Did Henry or George Cooper have any sons btw?
Henry had 2 sons, Henry and John.
https://www.theguardian.com/global/2011 ... r-obituary
I can't see any detail on George's offspring.
Thanks.
I guess they were clever enough not to box.

Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 18:25
by SeanBrennan
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑29 Mar 2024, 18:24
Thanks.
I guess they were clever enough not to box.
my pleasure. I'm not sure, I am going to keep digging though as it's intrigued me now. Will post anything I find
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 18:26
by SeanBrennan
the history of the sport like this really intrigues me. I end up down so many rabbit holes! I'm a history graduate so I end up so far into it I forget what I was initially researching.
Re: Sons of champions (UK)
Posted: 29 Mar 2024, 18:27
by SeanBrennan
"I'm a history graduate" = loved history then had a panic attack after graduating thinking "what on earth is this useful for?!"
