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Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 09:08 Joshua has gone into hiding, i'd be surprised if its anyone else but Fury. I'd also be very surprised if they took a warm up unless Fury does too.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 03:52

gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 01:39

jameswilson wrote: ↑25 Dec 2024, 16:28 Just a bastard shame this didn't happen when both were much younger.

That seems to be the way of the world these days. Nothing ever happens right on time anymore.

2 big names clashing in their prime is a super rarity in Boxing in the modern era. Hell maybe it always was I don't know. I wasn't there to see it

Would Dubious vs Parker count?
Maybe DDD isn't prime yet, but Parker is, and it's a proper but gifted belt

gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 13:32

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 03:52

gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 01:39

That seems to be the way of the world these days. Nothing ever happens right on time anymore.

2 big names clashing in their prime is a super rarity in Boxing in the modern era. Hell maybe it always was I don't know. I wasn't there to see it

Would Dubious vs Parker count?
Maybe DDD isn't prime yet, but Parker is, and it's a proper but gifted belt

Nah Dubois and Parker aren't names to anyone that's not a Hardcore Boxing fan.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 13:32

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 03:52

gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 01:39

That seems to be the way of the world these days. Nothing ever happens right on time anymore.

2 big names clashing in their prime is a super rarity in Boxing in the modern era. Hell maybe it always was I don't know. I wasn't there to see it

Would Dubious vs Parker count?
Maybe DDD isn't prime yet, but Parker is, and it's a proper but gifted belt

Nah Dubois and Parker aren't names to anyone that's not a Hardcore Boxing fan.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 13:50

gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 13:32

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 03:52
Would Dubious vs Parker count?
Maybe DDD isn't prime yet, but Parker is, and it's a proper but gifted belt

Nah Dubois and Parker aren't names to anyone that's not a Hardcore Boxing fan.

One of them is in my part of the world and the other is the #1 heavyweight in old Blighty. Parker has been around long enough for people to know who he is, and before Maggs dives in- that's not to say they like or want to see him.
But we are at a changing of the guard point in the division.

Coco wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 14:00

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 13:50

gilgamesh wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 13:32

Nah Dubois and Parker aren't names to anyone that's not a Hardcore Boxing fan.

One of them is in my part of the world and the other is the #1 heavyweight in old Blighty. Parker has been around long enough for people to know who he is, and before Maggs dives in- that's not to say they like or want to see him.
But we are at a changing of the guard point in the division.

We are at the changing of the guard point, but as things stand there are no big names.
Perhaps DDD is the biggest, but even if he beats parker, Uysk knocked him out with a jab.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 18:25

Coco wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 14:00

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 13:50

One of them is in my part of the world and the other is the #1 heavyweight in old Blighty. Parker has been around long enough for people to know who he is, and before Maggs dives in- that's not to say they like or want to see him.
But we are at a changing of the guard point in the division.

We are at the changing of the guard point, but as things stand there are no big names.
Perhaps DDD is the biggest, but even if he beats parker, Uysk knocked him out with a jab.

He might be in 12 months time. I'm guessing Joshua, Uysk, Fury, Ortiz, Ruiz, Wilder, Zhang, Whyte, Chisora,Joyce and maybe Clarke all retire.
That opens things up a lot where we may even see someone like Wardley or Torrez Jr with a belt.
Interesting to see how it pans out.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 18:25

Coco wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 14:00

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 13:50

One of them is in my part of the world and the other is the #1 heavyweight in old Blighty. Parker has been around long enough for people to know who he is, and before Maggs dives in- that's not to say they like or want to see him.
But we are at a changing of the guard point in the division.

We are at the changing of the guard point, but as things stand there are no big names.
Perhaps DDD is the biggest, but even if he beats parker, Uysk knocked him out with a jab.

He might be in 12 months time. I'm guessing Joshua, Uysk, Fury, Ortiz, Ruiz, Wilder, Zhang, Whyte, Chisora,Joyce and maybe Clarke all retire.
That opens things up a lot where we may even see someone like Wardley or Torrez Jr with a belt.
Interesting to see how it pans out.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024, 06:13

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 18:25

Coco wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 14:00

We are at the changing of the guard point, but as things stand there are no big names.
Perhaps DDD is the biggest, but even if he beats parker, Uysk knocked him out with a jab.

He might be in 12 months time. I'm guessing Joshua, Uysk, Fury, Ortiz, Ruiz, Wilder, Zhang, Whyte, Chisora,Joyce and maybe Clarke all retire.
That opens things up a lot where we may even see someone like Wardley or Torrez Jr with a belt.
Interesting to see how it pans out.

I could see a huge fight down the line for all the gold between Moses and DD:box:

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024, 14:26

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024, 06:13

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 18:25

He might be in 12 months time. I'm guessing Joshua, Uysk, Fury, Ortiz, Ruiz, Wilder, Zhang, Whyte, Chisora,Joyce and maybe Clarke all retire.
That opens things up a lot where we may even see someone like Wardley or Torrez Jr with a belt.
Interesting to see how it pans out.

I could see a huge fight down the line for all the gold between Moses and DD:box:

You could well be right Roy, but I need to see someone put it on Moses before I make a judgement on him. He looks awesome as an offensive banger, but I've seen so many like that come unstuck.
I guess Tyson vs Holyfield is a good example.
Richard Torrez fights in a similar way, but has a wealth of Am experience as well and I have him on my HW prospect list

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024, 14:47

KiwiRider wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024, 14:26

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024, 06:13
I could see a huge fight down the line for all the gold between Moses and DD:box:

You could well be right Roy, but I need to see someone put it on Moses before I make a judgement on him. He looks awesome as an offensive banger, but I've seen so many like that come unstuck.
I guess Tyson vs Holyfield is a good example.
Richard Torrez fights in a similar way, but has a wealth of Am experience as well and I have him on my HW prospect list

Solid points Kiwi, Duke Mckenzie made some very good points about Moses in a TalkSport interview in the past day or two, really insightful.

joshj909 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024, 06:25

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 18:25

Coco wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 14:00

We are at the changing of the guard point, but as things stand there are no big names.
Perhaps DDD is the biggest, but even if he beats parker, Uysk knocked him out with a jab.

He might be in 12 months time. I'm guessing Joshua, Uysk, Fury, Ortiz, Ruiz, Wilder, Zhang, Whyte, Chisora,Joyce and maybe Clarke all retire.
That opens things up a lot where we may even see someone like Wardley or Torrez Jr with a belt.
Interesting to see how it pans out.

You could have a top 25 of Opetaia, Dubois, Kabayel, Bakole, Parker, Okolie, Wardley, Wallin, Ajagba, Gassiev, Huni, Anderson, Hrgovic, Torrez, Sanchez, Vianello, Aliev, Sirenko, Hughie, Pero, Pero, Yallyev, Itauma, Gurgen and probably Dychko still knocking about.

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2024, 00:01 No

It's a "Kell Brook/Amir Khan" scenario again where both guys are shitting themselves about losing to the other. It's pathetic.

golden_labrador wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024, 20:23

joshj909 wrote: ↑27 Dec 2024, 06:25

KiwiRider wrote: ↑26 Dec 2024, 18:25

He might be in 12 months time. I'm guessing Joshua, Uysk, Fury, Ortiz, Ruiz, Wilder, Zhang, Whyte, Chisora,Joyce and maybe Clarke all retire.
That opens things up a lot where we may even see someone like Wardley or Torrez Jr with a belt.
Interesting to see how it pans out.

You could have a top 25 of Opetaia, Dubois, Kabayel, Bakole, Parker, Okolie, Wardley, Wallin, Ajagba, Gassiev, Huni, Anderson, Hrgovic, Torrez, Sanchez, Vianello, Aliev, Sirenko, Hughie, Pero, Pero, Yallyev, Itauma, Gurgen and probably Dychko still knocking about.

Jalolov too if ever steps up

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Dec 2024, 02:11

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2024, 00:01 No

It's a "Kell Brook/Amir Khan" scenario again where both guys are shitting themselves about losing to the other. It's pathetic.

Just like that fight. This will happen eventually.

There will be no one else to fight to generate that sort of money/interest. I mean it’s a way bigger fight than Khan/Brook anyway.

Even if it’s both their last fights.

I do think both Fury and AJ want to become 3 time world champions.

I know Fury wanted to become a 3-time ring magazine champion.

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2024, 09:24

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑28 Dec 2024, 02:11

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2024, 00:01 No

It's a "Kell Brook/Amir Khan" scenario again where both guys are shitting themselves about losing to the other. It's pathetic.

Just like that fight. This will happen eventually.

There will be no one else to fight to generate that sort of money/interest. I mean it’s a way bigger fight than Khan/Brook anyway.

Even if it’s both their last fights.

I do think both Fury and AJ want to become 3 time world champions.

I know Fury wanted to become a 3-time ring magazine champion.

But it should happen in their prime. Not when their careers are over and nobody gives a toss. I didn't even bother watching Khan vs Brook. Both were shot and over the hill and we all know Khan was gonna lose because his already glass jaw was held together with sticky tape.

It was a waste of time. They might as well have not bothered and it doesnt excuse the fact they ducked each other in their prime. It should have happened in 2015--Khan had bounced back after the Garcia loss and Brook had just beat Porter.

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2024, 11:57 Tyson has just lost a competitive fight against the best in the division and AJ is always dangerous and exciting. It's a great match and would do huge numbers.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2024, 14:16

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑28 Dec 2024, 11:57 Tyson has just lost a competitive fight against the best in the division and AJ is always dangerous and exciting. It's a great match and would do huge numbers.

Some hate Tyson that much they won't acknowledge he pushed Usyk at all. They don't even accept it from Usyk himself!

Coco wrote: ↑28 Dec 2024, 14:43 Fury is the biggest money fight for AJ no question.

However if Turki puts him on he will earn big v whoever, might even get Wilder!

But saying that, AJ has already earned big, does he want more? Does he really want to fight again?

I'm sure Fast Car is pushing hard to squeeze the last golden pips out of his cash cow.