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Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 16:35
by SeanBrennan
Frostieballs wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 06:33
maverick23 wrote: 24 Jan 2025, 10:49
mickey1975 wrote: 24 Jan 2025, 04:23
Some of those flyweight headliners were getting 5 grand if they were lucky.
Yeah. And often those flyweights headlining were in decent, competitive fights. Munyai brings back memories.
I think some of the flyweights/bantams of the 90’s earned decent money in that Sky era.

Think back to the likes of Nicky and Jason Booth, Napa, Kelly and Culshaw.

In real terms, I reckon their purses were higher than Harris and Butler’s recently.

That British Flyweight title fight was only picked up by DAZN in the week before.

I’d agree that the guys at the higher end may earn better now (Saudi/Dazn) but those below that have less opportunities.

30-40 consistent shows a year, with 12 fights each, allowed boxers to be very active, from prospect level through to Area, National and higher honours.

It seems now we can go weeks without a decent show, then a bumper bill comes along (which of course I love!).

Maybe rose tinted spectacles and I am getting old, but the overall scene seemed healthier in the 90’s.

In addition to the big fights (Hatton & Calzaghe), most Fridays (or Saturdays) you could look forward to seeing a decent British level title fight featuring decent names like Richard Williams, Wayne Alexander, Froch coming through, Damaen Kelly, Howard Eastman, Scott Harrison etc.

You’d get another title fight on the card and watch a couple of prospects on their journey.
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Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 17:29
by Frostieballs
SeanBrennan wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 16:35
Frostieballs wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 06:33
maverick23 wrote: 24 Jan 2025, 10:49

Yeah. And often those flyweights headlining were in decent, competitive fights. Munyai brings back memories.
I think some of the flyweights/bantams of the 90’s earned decent money in that Sky era.

Think back to the likes of Nicky and Jason Booth, Napa, Kelly and Culshaw.

In real terms, I reckon their purses were higher than Harris and Butler’s recently.

That British Flyweight title fight was only picked up by DAZN in the week before.

I’d agree that the guys at the higher end may earn better now (Saudi/Dazn) but those below that have less opportunities.

30-40 consistent shows a year, with 12 fights each, allowed boxers to be very active, from prospect level through to Area, National and higher honours.

It seems now we can go weeks without a decent show, then a bumper bill comes along (which of course I love!).

Maybe rose tinted spectacles and I am getting old, but the overall scene seemed healthier in the 90’s.

In addition to the big fights (Hatton & Calzaghe), most Fridays (or Saturdays) you could look forward to seeing a decent British level title fight featuring decent names like Richard Williams, Wayne Alexander, Froch coming through, Damaen Kelly, Howard Eastman, Scott Harrison etc.

You’d get another title fight on the card and watch a couple of prospects on their journey.
Napa can’t have earned that well he was nicking off his relative Isaac C a few years ago
I don’t think current wealth is any indication of previous wealth, in boxing or any other field. How many bankrupt ex millionaires are there?

Also, I’m not saying Napa got rich, just that he earned as well as Flyweights/Bantams now in real terms.

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 18:11
by SeanBrennan
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Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 18:21
by Coco
SeanBrennan wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 18:11 fair enough, just triggered me as Napa is a total scumbag
Any link to Napa?
And what were you saying about Cameron's missus?

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 18:25
by SeanBrennan
Coco wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 18:21
SeanBrennan wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 18:11 fair enough, just triggered me as Napa is a total scumbag
Any link to Napa?
And what were you saying about Cameron's missus?
https://www.derbyshire.police.uk/news/d ... drug-line/ Tania is his missus https://www.derbyshire.police.uk/news/d ... drug-line/ sorry she got 7 years not 8

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 18:26
by SeanBrennan
the Napa stuff came out after Okolie Chamberlain published evidence, damning, Chamberlain is his nephew, Napa stole 10k from him iirc

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 18:27
by SeanBrennan
Coco wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 18:21
SeanBrennan wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 18:11 fair enough, just triggered me as Napa is a total scumbag
Any link to Napa?
And what were you saying about Cameron's missus?
https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/17 ... gs-4927646

The irony of Cameron's innocence of drugs https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/17 ... gs-4927646

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 18:33
by Coco
7 years, even with early release is a lump of bird

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 25 Jan 2025, 19:07
by SeanBrennan
Coco wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 18:33 7 years, even with early release is a lump of bird
Sure is and it all started with answering phones and doing bits she’s stayed staunch but that’s her life ruined

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 08:31
by TheLeprechaun
Wasn't Ted bami linked to Chamberlain

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 10:50
by maverick23
Frostieballs wrote: 24 Jan 2025, 19:50
maverick23 wrote: 24 Jan 2025, 10:50
Frostieballs wrote: 24 Jan 2025, 08:33

The only thing that has changed that has been Saudi money.

Before that hit, you still had British Champions on purses that weren’t huge.

PPV has always been an exception.
No - it had changed before that. The Saudi stuff has taken it to the next level.
On what platform?
I think U.K. tv fighters started to be paid more than their commercial worth when Eddie went to DAZN and Shalom came to Sky.

Guys like Whittaker and Frazer Clarke (even Lauren Price) turned over at the perfect time to benefit from it and their guarantees are apparently massive. Hence why neither have been too active and the quality of the opposition has mostly been poor/cheap. Compare to AJ who fought something like 10 times in his first 15 months as a pro just fighting on undercards.

Before there were 3 main promoters and it was just Frank and Eddie they both kind of had their own areas of recruitment. Eddie very much going for the Olympic squad and Frank going after young, usually suited to the pros, amateurs.

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 10:50
by maverick23
TheLeprechaun wrote: 26 Jan 2025, 08:31 Wasn't Ted bami linked to Chamberlain
Yeah. I don’t remember Napa being mentioned at all re: that fight.

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 14:24
by SeanBrennan
TheLeprechaun wrote: 26 Jan 2025, 08:31 Wasn't Ted bami linked to Chamberlain
you are bloody right i've edited my post

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 14:25
by SeanBrennan
maverick23 wrote: 26 Jan 2025, 10:50
TheLeprechaun wrote: 26 Jan 2025, 08:31 Wasn't Ted bami linked to Chamberlain
Yeah. I don’t remember Napa being mentioned at all re: that fight.
I am 100% wrong, have edited.

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 14:26
by SeanBrennan
Frostieballs wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 17:29
SeanBrennan wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 16:35
Frostieballs wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 06:33

I think some of the flyweights/bantams of the 90’s earned decent money in that Sky era.

Think back to the likes of Nicky and Jason Booth, Napa, Kelly and Culshaw.

In real terms, I reckon their purses were higher than Harris and Butler’s recently.

That British Flyweight title fight was only picked up by DAZN in the week before.

I’d agree that the guys at the higher end may earn better now (Saudi/Dazn) but those below that have less opportunities.

30-40 consistent shows a year, with 12 fights each, allowed boxers to be very active, from prospect level through to Area, National and higher honours.

It seems now we can go weeks without a decent show, then a bumper bill comes along (which of course I love!).

Maybe rose tinted spectacles and I am getting old, but the overall scene seemed healthier in the 90’s.

In addition to the big fights (Hatton & Calzaghe), most Fridays (or Saturdays) you could look forward to seeing a decent British level title fight featuring decent names like Richard Williams, Wayne Alexander, Froch coming through, Damaen Kelly, Howard Eastman, Scott Harrison etc.

You’d get another title fight on the card and watch a couple of prospects on their journey.
I don’t think current wealth is any indication of previous wealth, in boxing or any other field. How many bankrupt ex millionaires are there?

Also, I’m not saying Napa got rich, just that he earned as well as Flyweights/Bantams now in real terms.

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 14:26
by SeanBrennan
Frostieballs wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 17:29
SeanBrennan wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 16:35
Frostieballs wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 06:33

I think some of the flyweights/bantams of the 90’s earned decent money in that Sky era.

Think back to the likes of Nicky and Jason Booth, Napa, Kelly and Culshaw.

In real terms, I reckon their purses were higher than Harris and Butler’s recently.

That British Flyweight title fight was only picked up by DAZN in the week before.

I’d agree that the guys at the higher end may earn better now (Saudi/Dazn) but those below that have less opportunities.

30-40 consistent shows a year, with 12 fights each, allowed boxers to be very active, from prospect level through to Area, National and higher honours.

It seems now we can go weeks without a decent show, then a bumper bill comes along (which of course I love!).

Maybe rose tinted spectacles and I am getting old, but the overall scene seemed healthier in the 90’s.

In addition to the big fights (Hatton & Calzaghe), most Fridays (or Saturdays) you could look forward to seeing a decent British level title fight featuring decent names like Richard Williams, Wayne Alexander, Froch coming through, Damaen Kelly, Howard Eastman, Scott Harrison etc.

You’d get another title fight on the card and watch a couple of prospects on their journey.
I don’t think current wealth is any indication of previous wealth, in boxing or any other field. How many bankrupt ex millionaires are there?

Also, I’m not saying Napa got rich, just that he earned as well as Flyweights/Bantams now in real terms.

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 14:27
by SeanBrennan
lesson for me to remember names before I malign others.

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 14:27
by SeanBrennan
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Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 15:06
by JamesPhilips
SeanBrennan wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 18:25
Coco wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 18:21
SeanBrennan wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 18:11 fair enough, just triggered me as Napa is a total scumbag
Any link to Napa?
And what were you saying about Cameron's missus?
https://www.derbyshire.police.uk/news/d ... drug-line/ Tania is his missus https://www.derbyshire.police.uk/news/d ... drug-line/ sorry she got 7 years not 8
Wait - you saying that woman is Liam Cameron’s girlfriend? Really?

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 15:08
by SeanBrennan
JamesPhilips wrote: 26 Jan 2025, 15:06
SeanBrennan wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 18:25
Coco wrote: 25 Jan 2025, 18:21

Any link to Napa?
And what were you saying about Cameron's missus?
https://www.derbyshire.police.uk/news/d ... drug-line/ Tania is his missus https://www.derbyshire.police.uk/news/d ... drug-line/ sorry she got 7 years not 8
Wait - you saying that woman is Liam Cameron’s girlfriend? Really?
Yes, this one I AM sure of as I know mutual people - that is his long term partner, IG has her posts on it about them. I am not an IG user though only for work.

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 15:11
by SeanBrennan
remember he lost his step-daughter Tiegen to a road accident? https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/po ... sh-2938112

Their relationship is mentioned here too https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/fighting ... nor-453838

their IG posts here

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 15:12
by SeanBrennan
if you log in you can see them together it is definitely her - I am not logged into IG as on personal laptop and only use it for work marketing but if you log in you'll see them together

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 26 Jan 2025, 18:00
by JamesPhilips
SeanBrennan wrote: 26 Jan 2025, 15:08
JamesPhilips wrote: 26 Jan 2025, 15:06
Wait - you saying that woman is Liam Cameron’s girlfriend? Really?
Yes, this one I AM sure of as I know mutual people - that is his long term partner, IG has her posts on it about them. I am not an IG user though only for work.
So he’s been acting all normal whilst she’s been in the nick? Weird….

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 27 Jan 2025, 15:54
by SeanBrennan
JamesPhilips wrote: 26 Jan 2025, 18:00
SeanBrennan wrote: 26 Jan 2025, 15:08
JamesPhilips wrote: 26 Jan 2025, 15:06

Wait - you saying that woman is Liam Cameron’s girlfriend? Really?
Yes, this one I AM sure of as I know mutual people - that is his long term partner, IG has her posts on it about them. I am not an IG user though only for work.
So he’s been acting all normal whilst she’s been in the nick? Weird….
I’ve never had a partner in prison but my father was inside on off all my life, I just used to swerve it and say he worked away, maybe he’s just told everyone she’s working on the rigs! Hell of a change as her ‘business’ was spray tanning. She’s Guna be pale in 4 years

Re: If SKY Dump Shalom And Want To Keep Showing Boxing.......

Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 04:41
by JamesPhilips
SeanBrennan wrote: 27 Jan 2025, 15:54
JamesPhilips wrote: 26 Jan 2025, 18:00
SeanBrennan wrote: 26 Jan 2025, 15:08

Yes, this one I AM sure of as I know mutual people - that is his long term partner, IG has her posts on it about them. I am not an IG user though only for work.
So he’s been acting all normal whilst she’s been in the nick? Weird….
I’ve never had a partner in prison but my father was inside on off all my life, I just used to swerve it and say he worked away, maybe he’s just told everyone she’s working on the rigs! Hell of a change as her ‘business’ was spray tanning. She’s Guna be pale in 4 years
:lol: :lol: No fake tan in the nick