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The lack of fights booked is very concerning....

Parker, Kabayal, Fury, AJ, Zhang, Sanchez, Chisora.... They are all over due...

Parkers wants his shot, Kabayal wants his shot, Fury is retired, AJ had surgery, Zhang is probably trying to get one last big pay day, Sanchez is allergic to fighting decent opponents, and Chisora is either waiting for a title shot or a mega pay day... its understandable, but its not good.

gregregegg wrote: ↑18 Aug 2025, 00:16

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Aug 2025, 00:11

gregregegg wrote: ↑18 Aug 2025, 00:08

The Guido that torrez beat would of easily KO'd the Whyte that Moses fought. Moses looks better and most likely is better.... but an Olympic medal (I know its ams) and a superior best win means for me I am ok with torrez remaining above for now.

While I don't doubt that the Guido that Torrez beat would've beaten the Whyte that Moses fought. Fact of the matter is that's all just speculation, and Guido's highest heights fall well short of Whyte's.

well lets vote Jake paul in then because we all know Mike Tyson reached higher heights than Whyte....

Its speculation but its confident fairly universally accepted speculation...

Yeah but Whyte's last win wasn't 22 years ago it was last year

Is he shot? Or did Itauma make him look shot?

whyte looked dreadful last time and is at a stage of his career where it happens. many people over in the british were predicting that whyte is done before the fight happened, not just after. it was obviously a case of being timed so moses would destroy him

and like i said moses is really good too and has accumulated a good enough streak that i do rate him ahead of those guys you mentioned anyway. but i dont really rank this win especially high in terms of beating a dangerous opponent, i guarantee you whyte will never beat a meaningful fighter again

gilgamesh wrote: ↑17 Aug 2025, 22:52 To the people that would rate Richard Torrez over Moses Itauma I'm genuinely curious as to why?

'The Guido' beat Big Mak, and went to an SD with Ajagba. Both were pretty good performances.
And while Richard Torrez Jr made a bit of a meal of it, he still got the win and that I believe is a better win than is on Itauma's resume. 'The Guido' is a pretty decent opponent.

I don't disagree about "The Guido"

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Aug 2025, 09:54 Make voting easy for me to calculate as per below.

Example:

Hrgovic to #6
Whyte remains out
Adeleye remains out
Itauma remains out

^^^^

Then you can have your rationale

Hrgovic +1 spot up. Everyone else remains out.

Hrgovic to 5
Ituma to 13

Hrgovic to 6
Itauma to 12
Adeleye and Whyte remain out.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Aug 2025, 01:55 I don't disagree about "The Guido"

Thought you would like that

Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

13.09.2025 - Ivan Dychko - 15(14) 0 0 - (Boxrec's #48) vs. Jermaine Franklin - 23(15) 2(0) 0 - (unrated, unranked)

Anymore votes on this.

Flip to 6

Itauma to 12

Whyte remains out

Adeleye remains out

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025, 03:56 Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

13.09.2025 - Ivan Dychko - 15(14) 0 0 - (Boxrec's #48) vs. Jermaine Franklin - 23(15) 2(0) 0 - (unrated, unranked)

Interesting fight. What happened to Dychko? Very big guy, respectable amateur record. Could he beat Franklin? Shouldn't he be favourite? I have not watched any of his pro career, just remember him from the Olympics. Franklin I only know as a tough but undersized loser to the stars.

gregregegg wrote: ↑18 Aug 2025, 00:20 The lack of fights booked is very concerning....

Parker, Kabayal, Fury, AJ, Zhang, Sanchez, Chisora.... They are all over due...

Parkers wants his shot, Kabayal wants his shot, Fury is retired, AJ had surgery, Zhang is probably trying to get one last big pay day, Sanchez is allergic to fighting decent opponents, and Chisora is either waiting for a title shot or a mega pay day... its understandable, but its not good.

Yes, the heavyweight division would be a lot more interesting if the boxers were fighting more regularly.

Parker says he wants to fight more often, like he did a couple of years ago, but the promoters and managers seem to be unwilling to do anything for him.

Hrgovic to #6
Whyte remains out
Adeleye remains out
Itauma remains out

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Fury is retired and should be taken out.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑17 Aug 2025, 18:40 BoxRec puts Itauma at #19 based on their algorithm

The Boxrec algorithm has:

Lawrence Okolie at 6
Murat Gassiev at 9
Michael Hunter at 11
Richard Riakpore at 16
Kubrat Pulev at 17

Guido Vianello (13-3-1) vs Alexis Barriere (12-0) 11th October

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 12:02 Hrgovic to #6
Whyte remains out
Adeleye remains out
Itauma remains out

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Fury is retired and should be taken out.

I'll take Fury out of my rankings personally when he's been out for a full 18 months with no plans or announcements of a comeback fight. Him being him, I don't look for that to be the case. Even so he'll be inactive, and could be passed up by fighters that are being active, and getting things done.

joshj909 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025, 07:54 Guido Vianello (13-3-1) vs Alexis Barriere (12-0) 11th October

Most people won't pay that much attention.
Those who saw 'The Guido' against Ajagba will

Hrgovic #5
Itauma #15
Whyte and Adelaye remain out.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025, 13:50

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 12:02 Hrgovic to #6
Whyte remains out
Adeleye remains out
Itauma remains out

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Fury is retired and should be taken out.

I'll take Fury out of my rankings personally when he's been out for a full 18 months with no plans or announcements of a comeback fight. Him being him, I don't look for that to be the case. Even so he'll be inactive, and could be passed up by fighters that are being active, and getting things done.

If it was any other boxer, would they already be taken out?

Hrgovic to 6
Itauma to 12

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025, 15:29

gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025, 13:50

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑21 Aug 2025, 12:02 Hrgovic to #6
Whyte remains out
Adeleye remains out
Itauma remains out

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Fury is retired and should be taken out.

I'll take Fury out of my rankings personally when he's been out for a full 18 months with no plans or announcements of a comeback fight. Him being him, I don't look for that to be the case. Even so he'll be inactive, and could be passed up by fighters that are being active, and getting things done.

If it was any other boxer, would they already be taken out?

Not if they were better than all the other contenders, and had had their most recent fight within the last 18 months.

If it was a guy who didn't make a habit of "retiring" for show every little while I might actually buy the retirement as legitimate

When Fury "retires" I assume he just wants to cycle onto PED's again for a while before his next fight.

Retiring should be instant out… get back in when you fight again….

What’s the downside? Attention seekers spend a few months out of the boxrec rankings…

Why be so lenient for a guy that:

2025 has done nothing
2024 lost twice
2023 got dropped by an mma guy…

gregregegg wrote: ↑22 Aug 2025, 22:30 Retiring should be instant out… get back in when you fight again….

What’s the downside? Attention seekers spend a few months out of the boxrec rankings…

Why be so lenient for a guy that:

2025 has done nothing
2024 lost twice
2023 got dropped by an mma guy…

Because until he "Lost twice" he had been the Lineal Heavyweight Champion since 2015, and didn't embarrass himself in defeat in either case against Usyk. He was simply beaten by a better fighter. He still very much looked like a Championship caliber fighter. He just couldn't get it done against the very best opponent he'd faced.