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Posted: 06 Mar 2006, 20:26
by Owain
expug wrote:We just may have slightly differint definitions of overachieve, but we are in agreement about Owen being an outstanding fighter, and more importantly from what I understand, a wonderful guy.
As I said at the start of my first post "forgive my bias" and I do now regret coming on a bit strong with the "talking bollocks" comment.
We do obviously have different definitions of 'over-achieve' and will have to agree to disagree. But I still disagree with you

though do also appreciate your comments regarding "Owen being an outstanding fighter, and more importantly from what I understand, a wonderful guy."
Posted: 08 Mar 2006, 02:18
by Jaclem
..over....gatti and ward....especially ward.
under....get fifty heavyweights in the same room...toss out a handfull of gravel and you'll hit at least forty.
Posted: 08 Mar 2006, 07:25
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
iceman21287 wrote:Tony Galento is one of the all-time great overachievers. An old, fat, bald guy comes within a few seconds of winning the world title from a consensus top 3 all-time heavyweight.
I forget which trainer said it ..........."give me a guy with a chin and a punch and ill take him far in the heavyweight division"
as for galento, he had a lot of both which is why he got far!
Posted: 08 Mar 2006, 07:29
by BrocktonBlockbuster49
under roy tiger williams
over john ruiz