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Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 12:07
by Graham Brett
MightyWarrior wrote:KO Atrist wrote:MightyWarrior wrote:Thanks Chris - one of his Japanese fights I guess?
This guy could end up a world champ, banned from fighting in America.
Could do, or could end up another Earl Hargrove.
Anyone remember him?
Yep, Earl The Pearl - clobbered by Mark Medal, then Mugabe. Or Jose The Threat Baret was another.
But Valero seems to be knocking over a higher class of fighter, inside 3 minutes too.
This latest Valero win shows he can do it to high calibre fighters. Do you think a psycological chink could unravel if he goes past round 1?
Another guy who was like that, but could really box was Jaime Garza, remember him?
I noticed him posting on here yesterday.
Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 12:15
by MightyWarrior
Yeah Garza was a terrific hitter - off the canvas to win a few times, but was levelled in a huge upset against Juan Kid Meza ( I think )
Where was he posting, on boxers of the past?
Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 12:18
by Graham Brett
MightyWarrior wrote:Yeah Garza was a terrific hitter - off the canvas to win a few times, but was levelled in a huge upset against Juan Kid Meza ( I think )
Where was he posting, on boxers of the past?
Yeah i think so. He might have been on here too talking about Alex rthur
Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 13:44
by E
best comparison in Engels Pedroza:
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=5992
Was from Venezuela also and all his wins were from KO until he met Mike Johnson.
Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 16:42
by Lefthookhappy19
Word is on Valero though is that he has tons of skills and was constantly beating decent fighters down in the US gyms. Not a one dimensional slugger...
Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 17:21
by glahn
Aye, word from people in the know in the U.S. is that he could be something special. Wonder if there's any chance of getting a license for him to fight over here anytime soon? I reckon Graham Earl might be a good test for him..
Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 17:39
by Foggy
Lets see wot he luks like when he's in with Pac-Man, Morales, MAB, Barrios etc etc.
Whilst on the subject i've heard that Chavez has pulled out of his fight with MAB, do you think Valero would Fight MAB as a replacement ?????
But you got to hand it to Valero, wot a record.
Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 17:39
by jeej
I read on the Current Scene that he was made to look pretty average in a sparring session with Erik Morales. Apparently Valero just goes for those huge shots to knock his opponent out, but the thinking is that he would be exposed against a slick counter puncher.
http://www.photopile.com/photos/dantzu/ ... 232296.gif
Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 18:05
by johnswan1
No, that's not actually true. I've seen the footage of Valero-Morales and Edwin held his own with 'El Terrible' - I know a lot of people think he even got the better of him.
Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 18:23
by jeej
johnswan1 wrote:No, that's not actually true. I've seen the footage of Valero-Morales and Edwin held his own with 'El Terrible' - I know a lot of people think he even got the better of him.
Just going by what I read. Naturally I haven't actually seen the footage, so I dont really know.
Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 18:44
by johnswan1
The footage is available to members of the
http://www.maxboxing.com website. Great site if any of you haven't seen it before, probably my favourite on the web. Membership is $5 per month or thereabouts and there's always great articles and training, sparring, weigh in, press conference coverage there. Would highly recommend it.
(And no, I don't work for them nor do I have any links whatsoever to them).
Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 19:53
by Lefthookhappy19
I think Valero's for real. He's fast and their a big thwacking noise when he lands. The two fights I seen of him he hurt the guys with normal thrown shots, then when they got hurt really unloaded. Sweet ko's also...
Posted: 26 Feb 2006, 20:31
by Lefthookhappy19
Posted: 27 Feb 2006, 08:59
by Foggy
Wonder if Kevin Mitchell fancies his chances against Valero
Be interesting to see who they pitch Valero in with next, maybe that Fana bloke who MAB blew away inside 2 rounds ???
Any suggestions who Valero may go for next ???
Posted: 27 Feb 2006, 10:18
by knockout
he showed great accruacy on that GIF file...
really caught the guy on the sweet spot...if that is how he fights normally he is clearly not just a "swing and see what you hit" type
Posted: 27 Feb 2006, 10:54
by johnswan1
Foggy wrote:Wonder if Kevin Mitchell fancies his chances against Valero
Be interesting to see who they pitch Valero in with next, maybe that Fana bloke who MAB blew away inside 2 rounds ???
Any suggestions who Valero may go for next ???
Well Vicente Mosquera is the current WBA champion and the fight at the weekend was a WBA eliminator. Beaten once - on a split decision.
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=14050
Valero is scheduled to fight in Japan on March 25th against a yet unnamed opponent.
