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tigerpomfret wrote:ivlark, So what your saying is lewis was so proud to be british he represented Canada in the olympics...how does that work?am i missing something?it doesn`t make any difference if he is GAY or not,but refusing to fight for britain says it all.

tigerpomfret wrote:I'll give you a simple question Ivlarc. Lets see you try and doge this like the time Lewis tried to doge Hasim Rahman's big right hand.

Why did Lennox Lewis represent Canada in the olympics?

Don't give me a list of pointless links. Just give me a straight answer.

Arbachakov wrote:Lewis came up through the Canadian boxing establishment.That's why he was representing them in the olympics.

RazorKO wrote:
Good post, Im also interested hear what people have to say regarding your question.

Although from the Rahman fight, I did laugh watching Lewis smile and mock Rahman than BANG. Ill tell you Lewis wasnt laughing any more

RazorKO wrote:1. Joe Bugner
2. Henry Cooper
3. Frank Bruno
4. Bruce Woodcock
5. Tommy Farr
6. Herie Hide
7. Gary Mason
8. Don Cockell
9. Alex Stewart
10. Bygraves and Joe Erskine

migz wrote:

RazorKO wrote:1. Joe Bugner
2. Henry Cooper
3. Frank Bruno
4. Bruce Woodcock
5. Tommy Farr
6. Herie Hide
7. Gary Mason
8. Don Cockell
9. Alex Stewart
10. Bygraves and Joe Erskine

Correct me if i am wrong please but isnt Joe Bugner Australian!!!

DrDuke wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 12:48 Heavyweight Britain has been in the US shadow for a long time, just like any other country though. It has become a major player at the end of the previous century, so some of its biggest players on the World scene has retired relatively not so long ago or they even are active now and will probably be active for quite a while. For the moment I see it this way:

1. Lennox Lewis - a truly legendary boxer, I even rate him as the best British p4p boxer ever as well as the best heavyweight ever and I don't think, that any explanations are needed for that.
2. Anthony Joshua - he has made really big accomplishments. For the moment he has the best opposition in the division and 3 major belts. An ATG Klitschko is among the scalps.
3. Tyson Fury - for the moment his biggest achievement is not just winning Klitschko, but dethroning him after the long reign as a unified and lineal champion. And he outboxed Klitschko, while Joshua wasn't able to do the same even later. That's his arguably single really big win, but almost nobody else had ever done something similar. He's talented, especially for a fighter of his size and physique.
4. Frank Bruno - was WBC champion dethroned McCall, was a top competitor of the 80s and the 90s with a solid opposition.
5. Bob Fitzsimmons - was a World champion dethroned Corbett, was a major player in his times. Probably his legacy is bigger in p4p sense, but his heavyweight career in particular was good. Not to forget he was the first British HW champ.
6. Joe Bugner - his biggest accoplishments were British, Commonwealth and European titles along with Australian one due to dual citizenship. He was around the top in the 70s. He was a skillful boxer and pretty elusive, I'd say, that style wasn't too common for European fighters. Cooper win was controversial and not so spectacular, but still a win, so he is slightly over Cooper. Furthermore he was better, than Cooper, in Ali fights and he even made look both Ali and Frazier not very spectacular in their fights. Actually his fights weren't spectacular overall, but that was a kinda accomplishment, as he was able to drag opponents in his style of fight and he sometimes was successful there against a notable opposition.
7. Henry Cooper - his biggest accoplishments were British, Commonwealth and European titles, he had some decent scalps. A top fighter of his times. Scored a legendary knockdown in Ali bout.
8. Tommy Farr - his biggest accoplishments were British and Commonwealth titles, but he was a good boxer with some good wins including a one over HFer Baer. He also went the distance vs Louis and was able to trouble him several times.
9. David Haye - was WBA champ. A top competitor of the late 2000s - early 2010s. He won the championship from a one of the worst HW champs and defended against the other one, but it is what it is. His career could have been better, but still he was able to show, that he was a skillful boxer, talented and slick.
10. Joe Erskine - was British and Commonwealth champ, held some notable wins including the ones in his prolonged rivalry vs Cooper.

Heartbreak_Kid79 wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 12:37

DrDuke wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 12:48 Heavyweight Britain has been in the US shadow for a long time, just like any other country though. It has become a major player at the end of the previous century, so some of its biggest players on the World scene has retired relatively not so long ago or they even are active now and will probably be active for quite a while. For the moment I see it this way:

1. Lennox Lewis - a truly legendary boxer, I even rate him as the best British p4p boxer ever as well as the best heavyweight ever and I don't think, that any explanations are needed for that.
2. Anthony Joshua - he has made really big accomplishments. For the moment he has the best opposition in the division and 3 major belts. An ATG Klitschko is among the scalps.
3. Tyson Fury - for the moment his biggest achievement is not just winning Klitschko, but dethroning him after the long reign as a unified and lineal champion. And he outboxed Klitschko, while Joshua wasn't able to do the same even later. That's his arguably single really big win, but almost nobody else had ever done something similar. He's talented, especially for a fighter of his size and physique.
4. Frank Bruno - was WBC champion dethroned McCall, was a top competitor of the 80s and the 90s with a solid opposition.
5. Bob Fitzsimmons - was a World champion dethroned Corbett, was a major player in his times. Probably his legacy is bigger in p4p sense, but his heavyweight career in particular was good. Not to forget he was the first British HW champ.
6. Joe Bugner - his biggest accoplishments were British, Commonwealth and European titles along with Australian one due to dual citizenship. He was around the top in the 70s. He was a skillful boxer and pretty elusive, I'd say, that style wasn't too common for European fighters. Cooper win was controversial and not so spectacular, but still a win, so he is slightly over Cooper. Furthermore he was better, than Cooper, in Ali fights and he even made look both Ali and Frazier not very spectacular in their fights. Actually his fights weren't spectacular overall, but that was a kinda accomplishment, as he was able to drag opponents in his style of fight and he sometimes was successful there against a notable opposition.
7. Henry Cooper - his biggest accoplishments were British, Commonwealth and European titles, he had some decent scalps. A top fighter of his times. Scored a legendary knockdown in Ali bout.
8. Tommy Farr - his biggest accoplishments were British and Commonwealth titles, but he was a good boxer with some good wins including a one over HFer Baer. He also went the distance vs Louis and was able to trouble him several times.
9. David Haye - was WBA champ. A top competitor of the late 2000s - early 2010s. He won the championship from a one of the worst HW champs and defended against the other one, but it is what it is. His career could have been better, but still he was able to show, that he was a skillful boxer, talented and slick.
10. Joe Erskine - was British and Commonwealth champ, held some notable wins including the ones in his prolonged rivalry vs Cooper.

This list is very sensible. Maybe rank Fitzsimmons over Bruno.... but that's about it.
Lewis should be untouchable as #1- he was born in London and dumped his Canadian heritage for Britain when he turned pro. As someone who should rank in a top 10 all time HW list- there is no question he should be top.
Joshua and Fury, despite being active.... have already done enough to score very highly on the list.
As popular as the likes of Cooper and Bruno are.... their achievements have already been eclipsed by AJ & Fury.
Even Haye probably merits scraping in- how many HW world champions have we had? not many.... and at least he managed a couple of defences too.... something Frank didn't manage to do (though Tyson would have likely destroyed Haye too)>

DrDuke wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 12:48
1. Lennox Lewis - a truly legendary boxer, I even rate him as the best British p4p boxer ever as well as the best heavyweight ever and I don't think, that any explanations are needed for that.
2. Anthony Joshua - he has made really big accomplishments. For the moment he has the best opposition in the division and 3 major belts. An ATG Klitschko is among the scalps.
3. Tyson Fury - for the moment his biggest achievement is not just winning Klitschko, but dethroning him after the long reign as a unified and lineal champion. And he outboxed Klitschko, while Joshua wasn't able to do the same even later. That's his arguably single really big win, but almost nobody else had ever done something similar. He's talented, especially for a fighter of his size and physique.
4. Frank Bruno - was WBC champion dethroned McCall, was a top competitor of the 80s and the 90s with a solid opposition.
5. Bob Fitzsimmons - was a World champion dethroned Corbett, was a major player in his times. Probably his legacy is bigger in p4p sense, but his heavyweight career in particular was good. Not to forget he was the first British HW champ.
6. Joe Bugner - his biggest accoplishments were British, Commonwealth and European titles along with Australian one due to dual citizenship. He was around the top in the 70s. He was a skillful boxer and pretty elusive, I'd say, that style wasn't too common for European fighters. Cooper win was controversial and not so spectacular, but still a win, so he is slightly over Cooper. Furthermore he was better, than Cooper, in Ali fights and he even made look both Ali and Frazier not very spectacular in their fights. Actually his fights weren't spectacular overall, but that was a kinda accomplishment, as he was able to drag opponents in his style of fight and he sometimes was successful there against a notable opposition.
7. Henry Cooper - his biggest accoplishments were British, Commonwealth and European titles, he had some decent scalps. A top fighter of his times. Scored a legendary knockdown in Ali bout.
8. Tommy Farr - his biggest accoplishments were British and Commonwealth titles, but he was a good boxer with some good wins including a one over HFer Baer. He also went the distance vs Louis and was able to trouble him several times.
9. David Haye - was WBA champ. A top competitor of the late 2000s - early 2010s. He won the championship from a one of the worst HW champs and defended against the other one, but it is what it is. His career could have been better, but still he was able to show, that he was a skillful boxer, talented and slick.
10. Joe Erskine - was British and Commonwealth champ, held some notable wins including the ones in his prolonged rivalry vs Cooper.

tigerpomfret wrote: ↑15 Apr 2006, 06:53 ivlark, So what your saying is lewis was so proud to be british he represented Canada in the olympics...how does that work?am i missing something?it doesn`t make any difference if he is GAY or not,but refusing to fight for britain says it all.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑13 Nov 2018, 16:59 Bruno was far from perfect, but he least he had some decent scalps. So far, Fury and Joshua biggest win is over a guy in his 40s.