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Posted: 19 Jan 2007, 11:37
by BoxBuzz
exactly...think about it, for all the stellar performances he turned in the media gave more attention to his fall at the hands of Snipes than just about any other event. The big story on that one is not that he fell but how he recovered after a fluke flush shot that just might have done in a number of other greats.
Great performances were greeted with a ho hum attitude quite often. If only he would have been more flamboyant his legacy would be far enhanced. But to the serious observer he really is in the top five without much quarrel.
Posted: 19 Jan 2007, 11:43
by JC
Apparently Larry was a great poker player as a kid, used to help support his family with it. Seems to make sense when you watch his fights, no unessessary risks, always keeping the odds in his favour.
Posted: 19 Jan 2007, 12:13
by Ezzard
BoxBuzz wrote:exactly...think about it, for all the stellar performances he turned in the media gave more attention to his fall at the hands of Snipes than just about any other event. The big story on that one is not that he fell but how he recovered after a fluke flush shot that just might have done in a number of other greats.
Great performances were greeted with a ho hum attitude quite often. If only he would have been more flamboyant his legacy would be far enhanced. But to the serious observer he really is in the top five without much quarrel.
Although I don't think Lewis is as great as Larry I think he also a victim of this... He was often cautious and underwhelming in his wins. Many hold this against him whilst drooling over the more action-packed and entertaining Tyson.
Posted: 22 Jan 2007, 10:45
by Nile4000
I think Larry puts the smackdown on Lennox, maybe around the fifth round.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 02:50
by cultus
BoxBuzz wrote:Holmes beats this guy first time every time.
like he almost lost to Ken Norton? Lewis power would beat Holmes cards atleast 5 times out of 10. Lewis is too big and strong for Larry to play his game. And the variety of punches lewis had was far more greater than Larry had. The jab and stamina would get him the SD probably but Lewis could take this by KO.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 03:29
by Collins2000
cultus wrote:BoxBuzz wrote:Holmes beats this guy first time every time.
like he almost lost to Ken Norton? Lewis power would beat Holmes cards atleast 5 times out of 10. Lewis is too big and strong for Larry to play his game. And the variety of punches lewis had was far more greater than Larry had. The jab and stamina would get him the SD probably but Lewis could take this by KO.
hmmmmm, Norton was far better than those two stiffs who managed to pole-axe Lewis. Anyway, Holmes beat him in a great fight. Did Lewis have many great fights? That one against Mercer wasn't bad. Nice and close - could have gone either way. But wasn't Mercer the bloke who had his ears boxed off by an ancient Holmes though?

Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 04:49
by cultus
Collins2000 wrote:cultus wrote:BoxBuzz wrote:Holmes beats this guy first time every time.
like he almost lost to Ken Norton? Lewis power would beat Holmes cards atleast 5 times out of 10. Lewis is too big and strong for Larry to play his game. And the variety of punches lewis had was far more greater than Larry had. The jab and stamina would get him the SD probably but Lewis could take this by KO.
hmmmmm, Norton was far better than those two stiffs who managed to pole-axe Lewis. Anyway, Holmes beat him in a great fight. Did Lewis have many great fights? That one against Mercer wasn't bad. Nice and close - could have gone either way. But wasn't Mercer the bloke who had his ears boxed off by an ancient Holmes though?

that's true.. I havent really seen that fight but it was in the beginning of Mercers career wasnt it? Id say Mercer was a differente fighter when he and Lewis met. And styles does make a difference. I just see Larrys style very suitable for Lewis. Mercer was right in Lewises face as Larry would be backing up giving Lewis more space to reach with that right hand.
I doubt Larry could take the right hands that Mercer did.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 05:59
by JC
cultus wrote:I doubt Larry could take the right hands that Mercer did.
If he could get up from the right Shavers hit him with could take Lewis' right hand.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 07:55
by cultus
J-C wrote:cultus wrote:I doubt Larry could take the right hands that Mercer did.
If he could get up from the right Shavers hit him with could take Lewis' right hand.
If Lewis hurts him he's gone. Shavers was so gassed after that KD - he did nothing.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 08:13
by pringle
Holmes by decision, the first guy to beat lewis by skill instead of a lucky punch. Tough fight, because lewis is not a pushover for anyone. Lewis did manage to beat premere KO artists Tyson and Tua, so his chin is not that bad.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 08:14
by pringle
If Lewis hurts him he's gone. Shavers was so gassed after that KD - he did nothing.
Holmes has the best recuperative powers of any heavyweight champ in history.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 10:13
by cultus
pringle wrote:If Lewis hurts him he's gone. Shavers was so gassed after that KD - he did nothing.
Holmes has the best recuperative powers of any heavyweight champ in history.
Mike got him outa there :P
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 10:15
by JC
cultus wrote:pringle wrote:If Lewis hurts him he's gone. Shavers was so gassed after that KD - he did nothing.
Holmes has the best recuperative powers of any heavyweight champ in history.
Mike got him outa there :P
That's right, and Danny Williams got Mike out of there, ergo Williams beats Holmes

Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 11:56
by cultus
J-C wrote:cultus wrote:pringle wrote:
Holmes has the best recuperative powers of any heavyweight champ in history.
Mike got him outa there :P
That's right, and Danny Williams got Mike out of there, ergo Williams beats Holmes


Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 12:19
by Andy Mac
Lennox wins doing handstands. Holmes had a fast accurate jab. Lewis' is twice as powerful. Holmes moves like the Queen Mary. Lewis can move if it suits him a lot better. Holmes cant punch with anything like the power Lennox has. Lewis probably thinks Holmes is too small, and not dangerous enough to trouble him, and steamrollers him a la Ruddock, Galota and Grant.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 18:12
by Collins2000
cultus wrote:Collins2000 wrote:cultus wrote:
like he almost lost to Ken Norton? Lewis power would beat Holmes cards atleast 5 times out of 10. Lewis is too big and strong for Larry to play his game. And the variety of punches lewis had was far more greater than Larry had. The jab and stamina would get him the SD probably but Lewis could take this by KO.
hmmmmm, Norton was far better than those two stiffs who managed to pole-axe Lewis. Anyway, Holmes beat him in a great fight. Did Lewis have many great fights? That one against Mercer wasn't bad. Nice and close - could have gone either way. But wasn't Mercer the bloke who had his ears boxed off by an ancient Holmes though?

that's true.. I havent really seen that fight but
it was in the beginning of Mercers career wasnt it? Id say Mercer was a differente fighter when he and Lewis met. And styles does make a difference. I just see Larrys style very suitable for Lewis. Mercer was right in Lewises face as Larry would be backing up giving Lewis more space to reach with that right hand.
I doubt Larry could take the right hands that Mercer did.
Hardly, but why let facts get in the way of a good excuse.
Posted: 24 Jan 2007, 03:08
by Victor*KC
Lennox would win Larry had trouble fighting big guy's and the Big guys he did fight were now where as skilled as Lennox Gerry who was a big strong HW with a hard punch was able to bother Larry I can't imagine what Lennox would do Who is much more skilled than Gerry.
Posted: 25 Jan 2007, 06:51
by thunderfromdownunder
anyone who thinks a focused and prime lennox lewis wouod be beaten '"easily" by anyone is just plain wrong
Posted: 25 Jan 2007, 07:03
by m1kee50
get that time machine fixed, i reckon theres only one way to settle this
for me, its too close to call, so I'll say draw or SD.... Holmes
holmes vs lewis
Posted: 27 Jan 2007, 22:41
by wolverine1
I'd go with Lewis in this one. Sure Larry had a great jab, but that was pretty much it.
Lewis could connect with one of his outside uppercuts and get Holmes in trouble. Also, Lewis' jab isn't that bad either, he could time Holmes, and get his own jabs in.
Lewis could also unload that awesome overhand right that he delivers like a sledgehammer behind on of his own jabs.
Lewis, with his reach, strength, & movement would give Holmes a tough fight, and win by a decision.
Posted: 28 Jan 2007, 23:38
by cosand
Holmes V Lewis, both in their prime......Holmes 78-83, and Lewis 98-03 ?
Holmes by KO/TKO in the middle to late rounds
To Holmes in his prime, Lewis = Ernie Shavers or Gerry Cooney
Posted: 29 Jan 2007, 02:14
by Victor*KC
Haha Monzone sound's like a type of Italian Pasta

Holmes- Lewis
Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 11:19
by bill.lockhart
... Holmes...
Great fighters are never beaten by inferior opposition. Lewis was & Holmes wasn't ... in their prime years. Larry had the whiskers to withstand anything Lewis could dish out. Holmes would win by a mid to late ko or at worst, unanimous decision. This is an easy choice.
Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 12:58
by Ambling Alp
I agree with Bill. This isn't that hard of choice. Holmes wins this. Holmes had much better skills than Lewis. He beat him with his jab and combinations. Lewis jab isn't in Holmes league. Often he would just paw with it. Holmes' jab was fast and had enough on it to keep Lewis away. Lewis was a hard puncher and he would have a remote puncher's chance.
However, the most likely result is Holmes winning a fairly comfortable decison.
Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 10:02
by KOJOE90
Holmes on points. Holmes had the better jab and if you can outjab Lewis he stuggles (eg. Bruno & Mercer).
It would be competative for sure but Holmes had the chin to cope with Lewis' big right and the jab to control the tempo of the fight.