larry holmes vs lennox lewis

boxerbob · Post by **boxerbob** » 13 Jan 2007, 17:40

i think holmes wins this one easy.....why???

holmes has the better jab
holmes is the faster puncher
holmes can move better
holmes has the better chin.......lewis does not hit like shavers
holmes has better stamina

lewis only attribute that is better than holmes is his power

holmes knocks out lewis in around 9 rounds

any thoughts???

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 13 Jan 2007, 18:07

boxerbob wrote:i think holmes wins this one easy.....why???

holmes has the better jab
holmes is the faster puncher
holmes can move better
holmes has the better chin.......lewis does not hit like shavers
holmes has better stamina

lewis only attribute that is better than holmes is his power

holmes knocks out lewis in around 9 rounds
any thoughts???

Lewis probaly hits as hard as Shavers with the straight right.

But it makes no difference.

Larry is in a different league to Lennox

Holmes inside 12, in a 15 rounder.

Very similar to Holmes Cooney

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 13 Jan 2007, 18:42

Holmes beats this guy first time every time.

torodecayey · Post by **torodecayey** » 13 Jan 2007, 21:25

Lewis is much better than guys Holmes struggled with-- i think this one would be close - more like Holmes vs Witherspoon.

The Great John L · Post by **The Great John L** » 13 Jan 2007, 22:29

torodecayey wrote:Lewis is much better than guys Holmes struggled with-- i think this one would be close - more like Holmes vs Witherspoon.

I think this seems more likely than some of the other predictions. While I rank Homes quite a bit higher, a peak and ready lewis would be a very tough fight for Holmes.

To even compare this matchup to Holmes Cooney is pretty silly. Cooney didn't beat a single world class HW that wasn't at least 75 years old, while Lewis cleaned out the division.

MEISINGER · Post by **MEISINGER** » 13 Jan 2007, 23:37

i am a huge fan of both.but i have to call this one a very close decision
for holmes.i would not place money on this one.
lewis was at his best against top competition,holmes was a master boxer
with understated power,and arguably the greatest jab in history.
i would see this as a close decision maybe split for holmes.

Benny The Kid · Post by **Benny The Kid** » 14 Jan 2007, 01:17

You guys are crazy.
Lewis iS WAY TO BIG!
holmes would be worn down,
by the 9 or 10th, then an overhand right,
would spell goodnight for holmes.
Holmes would have no chance at knockout,
while lennox could send him sleepin'
with every punch he throws.
Lewis by ko in round 11.
Larry is a great matchup for alot of people,
but lewis is way to big.
He beat 2 guys larry probably would have a terrible time with in
Holyfeild and Tyson.
Lewis is just way to big for those ancient old school heavyweights.
You need a guy with some TNT, to beat him.
That isn't holmes, sorry.
you guys are mistaken.
Look how much trouble norton gave him.
Lennox would crumble him like joe frazier.

cultus · Post by **cultus** » 14 Jan 2007, 01:52

Benny The Kid wrote:You guys are crazy.
Lewis iS WAY TO BIG!
holmes would be worn down,
by the 9 or 10th, then an overhand right,
would spell goodnight for holmes.
Holmes would have no chance at knockout,
while lennox could send him sleepin'
with every punch he throws.
Lewis by ko in round 11.
Larry is a great matchup for alot of people,
but lewis is way to big.
He beat 2 guys larry probably would have a terrible time with in
Holyfeild and Tyson.
Lewis is just way to big for those ancient old school heavyweights.
You need a guy with some TNT, to beat him.
That isn't holmes, sorry.
you guys are mistaken.
Look how much trouble norton gave him.
Lennox would crumble him like joe frazier.

amazes me how underrated Lewis is in this past section..

dalek · Post by **dalek** » 14 Jan 2007, 04:05

i think its a tough fight for larry who is open for those huge right hands.

tgchungmj · Post by **tgchungmj** » 14 Jan 2007, 07:04

Holmes beats Lewis easily.

Holmes is slightly above Lewis in all-time ranking and boxing ablilty. Futhermore Homles is the most difficult types of opponent Lewis will face.

Lewis is taller and bigger than Holmes of course but only in slight degree. Lewis's powerful right hand is devastating weapons to small opponents.

Lewis uses his good jab and cross. He uses uppercut(when the opponent has damages). His long reach also helps him to use jab and cross efficiently(especially small opponents and slow opponents).

But Holmes' jab is far better than Lewis' and Holmes footwork and mobilty is better than Lewis. Lewis is good at inside fighting also with his good power but cannot be applied in Holmes fight.

Holmes will overwhelm in long-range fighting(jab and cross in distant range) and this means Lewis cannot help being confronted with difficulties.

Lewis cannot make the pace with the opponents of great 1,2(jab and cross) with superior speed and movement.

And Holmes has great chin and stamina also. Lewis has no good chin. This also can be a factor which will decide the winner of the game. Lewis doesn't have the great heart to cope with great Holmes.

Homles and Ali(in 1960's) who possesses great one, two with good movement and chins and heart is the typcial type of fighter who can easily defeat Lennox Lewis.

Lewis' the most fearful oppenent is Ali(when he flied like a butterfly) and Holmes. Other boxers who can defeat Lewis is Joe Louis(too good a skill and accuracy) and Sonny Liston(better jab, tougher than Lewis) I think...

Evander · Post by **Evander** » 14 Jan 2007, 07:09

Have to go with Holmes on this one.

The jab would be the key.

Mind you on a punch for punch slug fest.
Lewis has a case.
Lennox can hit.

tgchungmj · Post by **tgchungmj** » 14 Jan 2007, 08:29

I agree Lewis also has a chance. His Punch is too powerful.

But Holmes will fight always considering Lewis' right hand timing and will not be hurt seriously. The only punch Holmes must take care is Lewis' rihgt hand. Lewis tends to hit cleanly with his right hand only after he successfully hit with his left jab. In jab trading Holmes has clear advantage.

Holmes fought well against big fighters--very very big fighters ButterBean..

JC · Post by JC » 14 Jan 2007, 08:41

cultus wrote:amazes me how underrated Lewis is in this past section..

He is under and overrated in equal measure depending on who replys to the thread and what mood they're in that week.

Kid Skid · Post by **Kid Skid** » 14 Jan 2007, 10:39

Holmes would launch that jab like a telephone pole in Lennox face all night long.
Mind you it would be a holy war, and probably would have a second fight.
But, Holmes takes this one.

RazorKO · Post by **RazorKO** » 15 Jan 2007, 12:10

Holmes wins this with tremendous ease, if Lewis tries brawling with Holmes like Weaver did, Lennox gets knocked out within 5 rounds. If Lewis tries boxing Holmes he would be outclassed and probably gets knocked out in 10 rounds.

While Lewis paws with his jab, Holmes snaps his jab and it was his jab that practically knocked out Ocassio. Lewis on the other hand was outjabbed by Klitschko, Bruno, Mercer and old blown up Holyfield. And unlike McCall or Rahman who KTFO Lewis with one single blow Holmes throws his right hand punch faster and much straighter than either of those 2 journeymen, we know that Lewis is suspectable to right hands and Holmes will land his ending in a brutal KO.

ringsider · Post by **ringsider** » 17 Jan 2007, 03:53

The "Easton Assasin" via easy decision or late TKO.

icejack · Post by **icejack** » 17 Jan 2007, 04:34

I go with Holmes,but no way is this an easy fight! Lewis is better than any fighter Holmes met (The Ali holmes fought was not Ali ! Ali would have beat both of them).Lewis always fought better against dangerous opposition.Homes by the narrowest of points victorys but a mid fight k.o to Lewis would not surprise.

ThePugilisticPreacher · Post by **ThePugilisticPreacher** » 18 Jan 2007, 04:26

Holmes. PERIOD.

walshb · Post by **walshb** » 18 Jan 2007, 11:45

I think with any two decent champs, it will be very hard to pick a winner. But Larry's chin and reccuperative skills as well as stamina give him a clear edge over Lewis, who is susceptible to being dangerously hurt by right hands. Lewis is very poor at shaking off the effects of a big shot. Look at how he was like jelly V McCall and Rahman. He got up, but was out on his feet. Holmes has the ability to weather a storm and really dig deep. Lennox just too ponderous and lazy, and too inconsistent to beat Holmes. Though, should Lewis land that huge right cleanly, then Holmes may be in trouble. I think Lennox poses a bigger threat than Shavers did

jezzamundo · Post by **jezzamundo** » 19 Jan 2007, 09:25

You guys are crazy.
Lewis iS WAY TO BIG!
holmes would be worn down,
by the 9 or 10th, then an overhand right,
would spell goodnight for holmes.
Holmes would have no chance at knockout,
while lennox could send him sleepin'
with every punch he throws.
Lewis by ko in round 11.
Larry is a great matchup for alot of people,
but lewis is way to big.
He beat 2 guys larry probably would have a terrible time with in
Holyfeild and Tyson.
Lewis is just way to big for those ancient old school heavyweights.
You need a guy with some TNT, to beat him.
That isn't holmes, sorry.
you guys are mistaken.
Look how much trouble norton gave him.
Lennox would crumble him like joe frazier.

This is BS. Lennox Lewis is an ATG in my book, but it is selling him cheap to say that his size was his biggest asset. Size helps but it is not the be-all and end-all that some think. Holyfield was smaller than Holmes, and he was past his best and gave Lewis troubles (although I think Lewis was performing below par in both fights). Holmes never fought anyone as good as Lewis, except arguably Tyson in his prime, but I think he would beat Lewis by a clear decision or late KO.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 19 Jan 2007, 09:45

Neither man would relish the fight. Both relied on their great jabs, but Holmes had the better of the two. This would mean Lewis would always be trying to play catch up on the exchanges and would be forced to take bigger and bigger risks to get some momentum.

Holmes could also set a far faster pace than Lewis could withstand.

It wouldn't be easy but Holmes has more ways to win than Lewis, IMO.

JC · Post by JC » 19 Jan 2007, 10:13

Ezzard wrote:Holmes could also set a far faster pace than Lewis could withstand.

It wouldn't be easy but Holmes has more ways to win than Lewis, IMO.

This is a good point especially if the fight was over 15 rounds rather than 12, I'm not sure Lewis would have been able to go 15 vs an ATG heavyweight.

I pretty much agree with the concensus here, I'll take a Holmes win but lewis would give him plenty to think about en route.

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 19 Jan 2007, 11:05

Holmes to win on close points decision. I cant understand why anyone picks an easy winner in this one, they are closely matched

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 19 Jan 2007, 11:15

For my part.. I don't think this would be an easy fight for Larry, but I do think the outcome is fairly assured. As always the unpredictable can happen. But Larry was one of the better fighters at keeping the unpredictable to a minimum.

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 19 Jan 2007, 11:21

BoxBuzz wrote:For my part.. I don't think this would be an easy fight for Larry, but I do think the outcome is fairly assured. As always the unpredictable can happen. But Larry was one of the better fighters at keeping the unpredictable to a minimum.

Spot on and part of the reason the press didn't have much time for him.

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