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Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 08:11
by jamesmcdonnell
Carlos-Wigan wrote:Terry D wrote:Tu hablo espanol Terry?
Omnis Determination Est Negatio gets me by Ok Caros, you might like that one
I said under 30 over 25. Do keep up.
The war tours was a joke. Yes I like Islam, you might not. Fair enough.
As for doing things instead of talking about. Two MA's by the time I'm off will set me up nicely, I'm doing things after thinking about them.
There are reasons for each of our time scales Carlos. Life punishes careless action and rewards well-conceived action.
I'll hold out my hand and say "good luck" to you in Korea.
Oh it was a joke? more like a daft fib you got found out on.
3 miles on 25-30 years? not impressive is it? Most people get out of Manchester as soon as possible, if they have anything about them. We both know this.
But I appreciate your gesture and I extended it to you likewise, good luck in whatever you do.
Ah, isn't that beautiful, I feel quite emotional. :(
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 08:45
by oliverfennell
Loynesy wrote:I've lived in Dubai, New York and Berlin - all great places, but I still think London the best place on Earth.
I loved visiting London but now I live here, it's a little overrated. It's OK, not saying I don't like it, it's just not as good as I was expecting.
Whereabouts do you live?
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 08:50
by Loynesy
oliverfennell wrote:Loynesy wrote:I've lived in Dubai, New York and Berlin - all great places, but I still think London the best place on Earth.
I loved visiting London but now I live here, it's a little overrated. It's OK, not saying I don't like it, it's just not as good as I was expecting.
Whereabouts do you live?
West Hampstead - lovely part of town and I never see any pikeys or yobs. For sheer cultural diversity, I love the place.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 09:03
by jamesmcdonnell
You mean Kilburn right?
West Hampstead is alright, but a few minutes down the road and you're back in the 1950's in Kilburn, land of ageing alcoholic paddies.
Hampstead is alright, but cultural diversity! Gimme a break mate, West Hampstead is admittedly a bit different from the rest of Hampstead, but it's hardly a cultural melting pot.
For all of Brixton's flaws, it is extremely cosmopolitan.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 09:13
by el_grande_mauro_mina
I actually compared the O/T on Lebanon to a virtual war-zone tour. I did advise you to think laterally.
Not at all. I've just had many friends who went to teach English abroad only to arrive back home five years later and finding themselves five years out of the game.
I wish you well. Grow up a little, reign yourself in and you may become a half-decent pigeon English teacher over there in Korea.
All determination is a negation, it falls into ignorance if you do not know the person.
Why would someone move from Gorton to an area right alongside two university campus'? Think it through Carlos.
You got caughht out Terence, now just admit it or hush up.
5 years out of the game? What the hell are you talking about? You are doing a second MA for christs sakes? So you think thats going to get you this top job? Any employer worth his salt is going to say:
'Why did you do a second MA instead of doing a Phd?'
and you are going to go:
'Hmmmmmmmmmm'
And they are going to go 'next'
What are these MAs in anyway? And why have you not gone on to do a Phd? Is it a bit out of your comfort zone? A Phd is cheaper to do than a MA so whats the reason?
Says it all that you went to a university on your doorstep instead of going to a university (and lets face it, there are LOADS to choose from) in another part of the country, tells me that a move to a different country and culture is a bit beyond your scope. You can dream though Terence
but don't knock what you haven't and will never do.
3 miles in 25-30 years? pffffth!
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 09:20
by jamesmcdonnell
Carlos, I think you are allowing your personal spat to make you overly judgemental, it's none of my businss of course, but if Terry likes going to university near where he lives, then what's the problem?
If you are going to university to get spanked into oblivion and just get a degree, then fair enough, but doing two MA's would suggest a particular field of interest, and therefore not so much on the social front, so location, not so important.
Also, I don't think Terry was suggesting he was ever in the armed forces Carlos...
We all have our own paths to tread, yours is not neccessarily the acme that everyone else should follow Carlos. If someone wants to stay and live in the house that their grandad built in a little village, and is happy to do so, then who is anyone else to criticise, it's a personal journey life, and one which is best not overly judged in my experience.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 09:30
by el_grande_mauro_mina
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Carlos, I think you are allowing your personal spat to make you overly judgemental, it's none of my businss of course, but if Terry likes going to university near where he lives, then what's the problem?
If you are going to university to get spanked into oblivion and just get a degree, then fair enough, but doing two MA's would suggest a particular field of interest, and therefore not so much on the social front, so location, not so important.
Also, I don't think Terry was suggesting he was ever in the armed forces Carlos...
We all have our own paths to tread, yours is not neccessarily the acme that everyone else should follow Carlos. If someone wants to stay and live in the house that their grandad built in a little village, and is happy to do so, then who is anyone else to criticise, it's a personal journey life, and one which is best not overly judged in my experience.
Thats right, I agree. Going away is not for everyone, it is just funny how someone who has never left his hometown in 30 years can comment on anyone else going away, Terry really had ought to kept out of this topic and kept his personal spat with me (if you read the thead from the beginning) to himself because he knows jack daniels about the subject.
Terry, correct me if I'm wrong has stated that these two MAs are going to get him this top job in the future.
Now I know a top executive who employs graduate engineers for an american company that builds trains, he says a degree and the classification is only worth something in the first year, after that any employer worth their salt want to know what that graduate has done with that degree, and if someone came to a job interview with two Mscs, their CV would go straight in the bin.
If Terry wants to do two MAs then good luck to him, it just stinks of 'eternal schoolboy' whose afraid of a bit of hard work, is happy in a comfort zone an thus not all that impressive against 25-26 year olds who have Phds.
Thats all there is to it.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 09:32
by el_grande_mauro_mina
Also, I don't think Terry was suggesting he was ever in the armed forces Carlos...
Yes he did, unless he meant that his '4 tours of lebanon' was with a village people tribute band!
No references to any joke that I can see?
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 09:33
by Loynesy
jamesmcdonnell wrote:You mean Kilburn right?
West Hampstead is alright, but a few minutes down the road and you're back in the 1950's in Kilburn, land of ageing alcoholic paddies.
Hampstead is alright, but cultural diversity! Gimme a break mate, West Hampstead is admittedly a bit different from the rest of Hampstead, but it's hardly a cultural melting pot.
For all of Brixton's flaws, it is extremely cosmopolitan.
I meant London as a whole you muppet!!! I would never claim my nice leafy street in West Hampstead is diverse.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 09:40
by bugs
Well, I was born in Africa, but came here when I was very little, my mum and dad (english and scot) had just gone there to try it and hated it (Zambia in the 70's not a great place), but soon after that they moved out to singapore and spent 13 years there, and gotta say it is a much nicer place to live than here, so I came back and spend a lot of time away visiting friends and am always vaguely depressed flying back into the UK, this country does not work very well, is very bitter and the weather and service sucks, so Im off again, deciing between hong kong, singapore and New York right now. Dont plan on coming back afterwards either.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 09:47
by T.M.K
Loynesy wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:You mean Kilburn right?
West Hampstead is alright, but a few minutes down the road and you're back in the 1950's in Kilburn, land of ageing alcoholic paddies.
Hampstead is alright, but cultural diversity! Gimme a break mate, West Hampstead is admittedly a bit different from the rest of Hampstead, but it's hardly a cultural melting pot.
For all of Brixton's flaws, it is extremely cosmopolitan.
I meant London as a whole you muppet!!! I would never claim my nice leafy street in West Hampstead is diverse.
HAHAHAHA - Hello Loynesy my old son!
Great to see you sticking up for yourself in good-old-fashioned Loynesy style: truthful and honest. Now Carlos, if someone like Loynesy can stick-up for London it ca't be that bad.... he's a very intelligent, well-educated, well-read, knowledgable man who's a damn-fine fellow. Of course it helps that he is effin loaded and lives in a plush part of town
cheers
"T.M.K"
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 09:52
by mickeybeard
Keep in mind that when you travel to a new place, you're almost bound to like it. I mean, you're on feckin' holiday for a start, so the lack of work and the Hotel Sex (assuming you're away with your missus) is going to make you pretty well disposed to the place.
There's probably German BBSs out there full of posts like
Donner und Blitzen! Berlin iss full of der tosserhoffens! I vill emigrate to Leeds! Schnell!
Well, maybe not Leeds - they're German, not stupid, after all - but I'm sure you get my point.
Terry, you should try living out of the major cities before you moan about public transport. My sister-in-law lives in Manchester, and I've always found the travel networks very good in the day, and pretty decent at night. Of course, that's probably more a damning indictment of public transport in the sticks than anything else, but still...
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 10:01
by mickeybeard
Oh, and Carlos, (you
are CPW, right?) the figure of 547K was the number of people coming
in to the UK. 'Only' 196K Brits emmigrated.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/6958220.stm
Edited for writing like a divvy.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 10:26
by mickeybeard
Pfft, you don't know you're born! Back in my day we had to walk 16 mile... (etc.)
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 10:28
by Taki...
Britain's best, fornicate the rest.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 10:29
by oliverfennell
bugs wrote:moved out to singapore and spent 13 years there, and gotta say it is a much nicer place to live than here
It was a bit bland, I thought. Granted, only been there once for a few days, but other than its cleanliness and infrastructure, there's not much going for it. No character, little culture (compared to other Asian cities) and small. Still, it's a good location from which to visit other countries nearby.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 10:29
by bugs
Taki... wrote:Britain's best, eff the rest.
Well, you are welcome to it
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 10:48
by jamesmcdonnell
mickeybeard wrote:Keep in mind that when you travel to a new place, you're almost bound to like it. I mean, you're on feckin' holiday for a start, so the lack of work and the Hotel Sex (assuming you're away with your missus) is going to make you pretty well disposed to the place.
There's probably German BBSs out there full of posts like
Donner und Blitzen! Berlin iss full of der tosserhoffens! I vill emigrate to Leeds! Schnell!
Well, maybe not Leeds - they're German, not stupid, after all - but I'm sure you get my point.
Terry, you should try living out of the major cities before you moan about public transport. My sister-in-law lives in Manchester, and I've always found the travel networks very good in the day, and pretty decent at night. Of course, that's probably more a damning indictment of public transport in the sticks than anything else, but still...
My mate has been in Berlin over a year now, he doesn't work wherever he lives as he's already made a small fortune through an internet business he's been running since 1987 and is still making a profit.
He said that Berlin has everything London has, but is cheaper, friendlier and better run, without being sanitised to the point of being dull. He said that the Berliners are very culturally sophisticated bohemian people, who love letting it all hang out, and that the reality of Germany couldn't be more different to our view of the uptight teutonic fuhrers we still lampoon, whilst living in a fractured and problematic London.
Unlike London, most Berliners rent their property, only 40% of Berliners own their own homes, and property isn't really seen as the be all and end all. As a result they don't have ludicrous house prices and rents are about half what they are in London.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 11:05
by el_grande_mauro_mina
Terry D wrote:Look Carlos, I made a light-hearted joke earlier in the thread thinking you may have thawed-out a bit or matured over the preceding weeks. Evidently that was a mistake on my part.
I wished you well and offered you a virtual handshake only for you to continue with the personal remarks in a way reminiscent of a pre-menstrual woman. You have also retained so much personal information about me I feel my first sentence in every post should be "I'm sorry Carlos but I am not gay".
I am not about to go into a lengthy former thread to find an off-hand joke but I did say that I had done four-tours of the O/T Lebanon strand and that was like being in Beirut. Not the greatest joke ever but how am I going to say I am in the military when people on here have been in the armed forces? It would be a bit daft to try and fake it to them.
As for my geographical location. James is pretty accurate and I really should not have to justify it but I took one MA in Analytical philosophy and want to do an MA in Continental philosophy. It is that straightforward, and complicated. Plus there are things I want to see here in Manchester before I leave.
Look, we had a spat, you are not verbally adroit nor are you particularly very challenging and have become tiresome quite fast so your only resort is to act like a child. Your constant personal assumptions say a lot about you, if I respond any further I will look equally as bad.
Go to Korea by all means, I agree that Britain is becoming overrun by feeble-minded yobs who would beat people up just for looking or thinking different. It makes me happy that you are knocking a -1 off that figure the moment you board your plane.
Ps Some kind of wildy inventive piss-take of me along the lines of the 'Sandra D' song from 'Grease' (fifth most awesome film of all time) would have been much more fun.
'Look at me I'm Terry D,
Wrapped-up in banality...'
That would make me laugh, with you.
Look, all that's been mentioned on here is that you are totally ill equipped to make any comment about anyone moving to another country seeing as you have lived in your hometown for the past 30 odd years.
James is pretty accurate and I really should not have to justify it but I took one MA in Analytical philosophy and want to do an MA in Continental philosophy.
With a BA (Hons) in Philosophy I assume. if you find this really good number abroad that you'll think you'll get with the said qualifications then I will show my arse to the whole of Greater Manchester from the top of winter hill. I think a trainee management scheme at MFI is a-callin'
You look bad as it is Terence, you were found out about your silly lie about being in the armed forces and your 4 tours of Beruit, then you try to brag about your two MAs in philosophy at the MMU (exposing you as the biggest layabout of all time
)
However, I will put all this aside and get you a job working with me in Korea - a well paid post with your own flat and airfare out there, take it before it is too late and your degree and MA become even more worthless than they already are. Also it will get you out of Manchester
and your comfort zone. Which is about time too!
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 11:13
by oliverfennell
I dare you to try kimchee chocolate in Korea, Carlos. Now THAT takes you out of your comfort zone!
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 11:18
by el_grande_mauro_mina
oliverfennell wrote:I dare you to try kimchee chocolate in Korea, Carlos. Now THAT takes you out of your comfort zone!
I'll give that one a miss I think Oliver
I have been told that the favourite snack of Koreans everywhere is chopped garlic to be eaten like peanuts.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 11:24
by Khaosai-Galaxy
There is nothing i hate more in the world than people who have "plans" to move abroad. If i had a quid for every clueless pudendum ive met on Sukhumvit soi 4 who had a "scheme" or a "plan" to move to Thailand i'd be even richer than i already am.
Just get on with it and dont bore us with the details
cheers
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 11:39
by bugs
oliverfennell wrote:bugs wrote:moved out to singapore and spent 13 years there, and gotta say it is a much nicer place to live than here
It was a bit bland, I thought. Granted, only been there once for a few days, but other than its cleanliness and infrastructure, there's not much going for it. No character, little culture (compared to other Asian cities) and small. Still, it's a good location from which to visit other countries nearby.
Fair enough, but the high standard of living (for everyone) makes up for that, and it helps if you know where to go. The food is second to none and you get a great asia-lite experience with Malay, Chines and Indian Singaporeans that puts you in good stead to go on and see the rest of Asia with the infrastructure heavy singapore as an excellent base.
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 11:42
by el_grande_mauro_mina
bugs wrote:oliverfennell wrote:bugs wrote:moved out to singapore and spent 13 years there, and gotta say it is a much nicer place to live than here
It was a bit bland, I thought. Granted, only been there once for a few days, but other than its cleanliness and infrastructure, there's not much going for it. No character, little culture (compared to other Asian cities) and small. Still, it's a good location from which to visit other countries nearby.
Fair enough, but the high standard of living (for everyone) makes up for that, and it helps if you know where to go. The food is second to none and you get a great asia-lite experience with Malay, Chines and Indian Singaporeans that puts you in good stead to go on and see the rest of Asia with the infrastructure heavy singapore as an excellent base.
Singapore knows how to deal with yobs. The world could learn a lot from Singapore! 8)
Posted: 23 Aug 2007, 11:43
by oliverfennell
bugs wrote:oliverfennell wrote:bugs wrote:moved out to singapore and spent 13 years there, and gotta say it is a much nicer place to live than here
It was a bit bland, I thought. Granted, only been there once for a few days, but other than its cleanliness and infrastructure, there's not much going for it. No character, little culture (compared to other Asian cities) and small. Still, it's a good location from which to visit other countries nearby.
Fair enough, but the high standard of living (for everyone) makes up for that, and it helps if you know where to go. The food is second to none and you get a great asia-lite experience with Malay, Chines and Indian Singaporeans that puts you in good stead to go on and see the rest of Asia with the infrastructure heavy singapore as an excellent base.
"Asia-lite" is a perfect description and I guess first-timers to the East would be more impressed than I was. But yeah, good standard of living is attractive. I'd certainly take a job there if it was offered.