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steve689 wrote:Not sure how this determines the TV schedule (due to start at 8.15) and more quantity than quality, but here it is anyway:

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WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP BOXING

Saturday 3rd November 2007

RUNNING ORDER

Stadium gates open at 7.30pm

There will be no admittance into the Stadium after 10.30pm

Fight # 1 - 20.15pm
4 X 3 Minute Rounds Light-Heavyweight Contest
HARRY MILES V MARK PHILLIPS

Fight # 2
8 X 3 Minute Rounds Super-Middleweight Contest
NATHAN CLEVERLY V JOEY VEGAS

Fight # 3
4 X 3 Minute Rounds Light-Heavyweight Contest
TONY BELLEW V ADAM WILCOX

Fight # 4
6 X 3 Minute Rounds Super Featherweight Contest
RICKY BURNS V YOUSEF AL HAMIDI

Fight # 5
6 X 3 Minute Rounds Middleweight Contest
KERRY HOPE V ERNIE SMITH

Fight # 6 - 22.30pm
6 X 3 Minute Rounds International Middleweight Contest
THOMAS POLLSEN V LEE NOBLE

Fight # 7
8 X 3 Minute Rounds Light-Welterweight Contest
BARRIE JONES V TBA

Fight # 8
6 X 3 Minute Rounds International Cruiserweight Contest
ANDERS HUGGER V HASTINGS RASANI

Fight # 9 - 24.10pm
THE WBO WORLD CRUISERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP
12 X 3 Minute Rounds at 14st 4lb
ENZO MACCARINELLI V MOHAMED AZZAOUI

Fight # 10
4 X 3 Minute Rounds Light-Welterweight Contest
JAMIE COX V DAVID KIRK

Fight # 11 - 01.25am
THE WBO, WBC AND WBA WORLD SUPER-MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIPS
12 X 3 Minute Rounds at 12st
JOE CALZAGHE V MIKKEL KESSLER

OPPONENTS, FIGHT TIMINGS AND LINE UP ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE

Thanks for this.

Mario wrote:This bill is an absolute disgrace. Theres only 1 competitive bout out of about 12 and the rest are just glorified sparring sessions. Obviously its hard to complain about the likes of Bellew and Jamie Cox getting easy fights but decent fighters like ex European, commonwealth and British title challenger Ricky Burns is going up against someone with a 2-4-1 record. Its not even a contest. And the majority of knowledgable boxing fans havent even heard of Enzo Mac's opponent.

Warren has had months to get good fighters in and provide the paying fans with an entertaining undercard but once again his greed has spoiled a potentially superb night for British Boxing. Of course if the main event is a great fight it'll all be forgotten and he'll get away with it yet again.

I hate to keep comparing boxing with MMA but one of the main reasons it is currently successful is because the majority of fights are between well matched opponents and that is what people want to see. Real fights, not big names fighting nobodies to pad their records.

Spot on. I can't remember a more one sided card than this.

Deserter wrote: I probably wouldn't feel quite so srongly about the whole affair if it wasn't coming hot on the heels of the dreadful farce that was the Calzaghe-Manfredo card...

The Calzaghe-Manfredo card was actually MUCH stronger than this.

Absolute disgrace!!!!!!!!!

Although i can agree that FW is a business man, the quality of his product is appaling. Only in the world of boxing can someone get away with this, and should JC win people will go home happy & FW will once again look good. When you disect the actual bill, what other fight is actually worth watching????????

Compare FW with ODH as a promoter, Oscar delivers fights he wants to see as well as the public wanting to see! And he can do this whilst making money.

Compare the Cotto v Mosley bill to this one and it's an absolute joke, no wander the yanks laugh at us!!!!

FW is a greedy twat showing terrible bills, but he has a strangle hold on young British boxers cos they know if they want to get anywhere they HAVE to sign with him. They end up having 20+ fights against journey men before frank will even get them an 8 round fight.

I hope JC gets destroyed & FW loses his golden egg.........

.......... plus i personally think MK will do JC by KO in th 7th to 12th rounds!!!

Boxingchat what's the word from SN Towers on this piss poor effort?

One word - GREED!

HBO has signed up to show the main event only.

So that is the only thing FW has spent money on.

Its not an excuse for the appalling quality of the undercard but its probably an explanation.

oliverfennell wrote:

Deserter wrote: I probably wouldn't feel quite so srongly about the whole affair if it wasn't coming hot on the heels of the dreadful farce that was the Calzaghe-Manfredo card...

The Calzaghe-Manfredo card was actually MUCH stronger than this.

I guess... it's just my memory is tarnished by the worst two top-of-the-bill mismatches known to man

Do we care about undercard quality? I certainly do, it adds to the excitment of the main event when an undercard is solid. Think Barrios-Guzman & Vazquez-Gonzalez on the Barrera-Juarez II show. Really got the juices flowing and was even better than the main event.

Or the recent Hopkins-Wright undercard with Andrade-Muller (okay a bit one sided), Katsidis-Amonsot & Linares-Larios. Good solid matchmaking get's you in the mood for the big one, not a string of one sided knockover jobs.

rhino222 wrote:how much does FW pay to hire out the millenium stadium !!

and pay the top of the bill fighters!!! theres your gate swallowed up!!

josh fg wrote:

rhino222 wrote:how much does FW pay to hire out the millenium stadium !!

When I worked in music promotion big events would be done on a % of tickets sold with a minimum which covers there running costs, with an outfit the size of SN they may be able to negotiate a flat rate though. doubt it'll amount to more than 100,000 though which is about 5% of the over all take.

''doubt it will be more than 100,000''. i doubt you have a f ucking clue what you are on about.

101boxing wrote:

josh fg wrote:

rhino222 wrote:how much does FW pay to hire out the millenium stadium !!

When I worked in music promotion big events would be done on a % of tickets sold with a minimum which covers there running costs, with an outfit the size of SN they may be able to negotiate a flat rate though. doubt it'll amount to more than 100,000 though which is about 5% of the over all take.

''doubt it will be more than 100,000''. i doubt you have a f ucking clue what you are on about.

Was speculating on my experiance of putting on smaller but resonably sized events in the music industry which I admitted may be wrong mate, you seem quite upperty, if you have such "a f ucking" clue why not enlighten us as to how he can fund a better undercard in front of about 8 thousand people in the Nottingham arena but not for something in front of 60,000 people. Securaty per person is cheeper in these things than in the music industry and I know that for a fact because sporting events can have stewards and a lower %age of licensed securaty staff.

If he put Mac and Rees in good fights it would be good for business because he would have 60,000 fans about 40,000 of whom would be generic sports or Waels fans watching, as would many watching on Setanta (who also gave money) if they start supporting those two then Warren can make money off them in future. Thats fcuking business.

There was a thing in Boxing Monthly about the trouble of getting newspapers to cover boxers who aren't calzaghe, those papers have the space booked and jorno's there if there is a good undercard fight too its good for the sport.

So go on as someone who has a 'f ucking clue' tell us how much the stdium costs, and tell us what the ticket revenue is.

Well i've just been told by Setanta that my address doesn't appear on there system, so i can't subscribe. so BOLLOCKS to them.

looks like it will be reading teletext in the morning to get the result

Old bones Ian wrote:Well i've just been told by Setanta that my address doesn't appear on there system, so i can't subscribe. so BOLLOCKS to them.

looks like it will be reading teletext in the morning to get the result

Why not keep it truly old school and wait to read about it in the papers on Monday?

oliverfennell wrote:

Old bones Ian wrote:Well i've just been told by Setanta that my address doesn't appear on there system, so i can't subscribe. so BOLLOCKS to them.

looks like it will be reading teletext in the morning to get the result

Why not keep it truly old school and wait to read about it in the papers on Monday?

I used to not know alot of the results until the following Friday when i got my Boxing News, that was about 10 years ago, life without the internet!

Also used to have an impressive collection of Razzle about the same time

Old bones Ian wrote:Well i've just been told by Setanta that my address doesn't appear on there system, so i can't subscribe. so BOLLOCKS to them.

looks like it will be reading teletext in the morning to get the result

"Computer says no"

What a daft response. Ian I'm sure if you try again and ask to speak to someone sensible they could sort it for you. Some of the staff you speak to at sky and setanta are brain dead. Why is life never simple?

chinny wrote:

Old bones Ian wrote:Well i've just been told by Setanta that my address doesn't appear on there system, so i can't subscribe. so BOLLOCKS to them.

looks like it will be reading teletext in the morning to get the result

"Computer says no"

What a daft response. Ian I'm sure if you try again and ask to speak to someone sensible they could sort it for you. Some of the staff you speak to at sky and setanta are brain dead. Why is life never simple?

It took me a few weeks to get Virgin Media to understand the place I live actually exists.

Terry D wrote:

oliverfennell wrote:

chinny wrote: "Computer says no"

What a daft response. Ian I'm sure if you try again and ask to speak to someone sensible they could sort it for you. Some of the staff you speak to at sky and setanta are brain dead. Why is life never simple?

It took me a few weeks to get Virgin Media to understand the place I live actually exists.

"L-on-don?"

LOL I had to be a bit more specific than that. They had the road, town, even building number, but not my flat number. They said it wasn't "on the system". I said I'm living in the fornicator and the previous tenant had cable TV, so what's the problem? "It's not on our computer, so we can't send anybody". I said they've got the building number, if not the exact flat, so just send someone to the building and I'll let them in, but they still wouldn't do it because the computer needed a flat number. AARGH! In the end I got my landlord to phone them up and also insist that yes, the place did actually exist. But it was too late to see Williams-Gammer (although I found a pub showing it).