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I have a slew of various resources, but below are site that will keep anyone busy for years, but I'll put together a large list before too long.

1. Antiquities of the Prize Ring
http://www.antekprizering.com/
---Great memorabilia website, but most important, this site also posts history behind the various memorabilia they are selling. Every day, a different newspaper account and photo of various fights throughout history is posted on the home page on the website. Harry Shaffer owns it and he is a very dependable and honest dealer. His collection also has a library of old newspaper articles dealing with boxing. For example, Harry’s archive file service has a total of 169 different pages of various newspaper clips covering everything from the accounts of his various fights to an article about Walcott accidentally killing a man while also blowing off his thumb to articles about his disappearance. This site is very valuable and a person can learn a lot from this site.

2. The Cyber Boxing Zone
http://www.cyberboxingzone.com/
---Regarded by most top historians as the best historical website on the net with the most accurate old time fighter records anywhere, along with the IBRO. The forum, I think, is the best on the net, followed by the boxrec forum. The forum has a slew of knowledgable students and historians of the sport…from trainers, managers and promoters to former world champions, boxing judges, active and retired boxers and several of the very best boxing historians in the world.

3. International Boxing Research Organization
http://www.ibroresearch.com/
---An absolutely great organization with the world’s best historians and students…many members of the IBRO are also active members of the CBZ forum. We have over 90 IBRO Journals which have been published since the organization was formed back in the early 1980s and the materials and data within the journals is information that has rarely been recognized and the fighter records are the best and most accurate fighter records that has ever been published. But it’s the membership that makes the organization so great. Some of the most generous and helpful people in the boxing world actively help out new members and with the exception of one person, the rest of the entire membership are A-1 class acts!

4. The Brooklyn Daily Eagle
http://www.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/eagle/
---One of the old newspaper archives from the time which has a ton of boxing material. The years covered span through the newspapers inception through 1902, which this time period was very exciting for New York boxing. It covers the Horton Law era, among others, which was a very active time for boxing. You can learn a lot about fighters of this era through this website, especially New York fighters.

5. Famous Fights
http://www.famous-fights.com/
---This was an early 1900s paper and it was a really important publication that gave terrific accounts of early fights as well as accounts of the fighters.

6. Alberta, Canada Newspaper Collection
http://www.ourfutureourpast.ca/newspapr/
---This website has 1000s and 1000s of various early Canadian newspapers and a site that has a ton of information.

7. Newspaper Archive
http://www.newspaperarchive.com/
---In my opinion the best research site on the net with millions of old newspaper archives online and some of the best newspapers to ever cover boxing. It is a pay site, which you can pay by day, month, or year (the year is the best bet). Just typing the term “boxing” into the site search engine brings back a total list of 24,412,770 different newspaper articles about boxing. Typing “Joe Louis” in the search engine brings back a total of 243,183 different newspaper articles about Joe Louis.

8. Cyndi’s List
http://www.cyndislist.com/
---This website is huge and it is one of the most valuable sources available anywhere. Not really boxing here, but the site has a huge list of resources and research tools to help a researcher from getting started to finishing a project.

9. All-Time Heavyweight Rating 1881-Now
http://www.geocities.com/mgpaul2/
---Michael Paul and his son was the creator of this website. Mike has since passed on, but the data and information on heavyweight boxing is incredible. Listed is nearly every single heavyweight fight in history as well as rating lists and other data. A great website.

10. National Digital Newspaper Program
http://www.loc.gov/ndnp/
---This program will just continue to get bigger and better with time. Old newspaper data is the absolute best kind of research tool as well as the best mode, aside from actual video, to learn about older fighters.

11. Chronicling America: Historic American Newspapers
http://www.loc.gov/chroniclingamerica/
---This archive site of old newspapers from around the country covering the time period of 1900 thru 1910 is one of the better research sites on the net. Some of the best boxing coverage that was in newspapers of the day were in some of these exact same newspapers. Some of the best are: San Francisco Call, Los Angeles Herald, New York Evening World, New York Sun, New York Tribune, The Salt Lake Herald and many more.

12. Jo Sports Inc.
http://www.josportsinc.com/
---This website is in the same category as Antiquities of the Prize Ring and it is about as informative with data and information about each of their items.

13. Prize Fighting Books
http://hometown.aol.com/cmoyle/myhomepage/business.html
---This is the website of Clay Moyle, who has one of the best boxing book collectins in the world and this site offers a slew of great boxing books for sale as well as photo's and early boxing publications which you can buy photo copies of.

14. Pugilistica Boxing Memorabilia
http://www.pugilistica.com/
---Again, one of the most valuable and informative boxing memorabilia sites on the net and like the others I mentioned, Dave Bergin, the owner is a class act.

Thanks for the reference resources barry!

No problem!!

barry

thank you a great deal for that

Robinson wrote:barry

thank you a great deal for that

barry, you will keep me busy for days.

thanks

i can soon come back with even better knowledge

1) Rocky Marciano
-every one sais he fought nobody good and if he did they were out of their prime. He still has the best record as a heavyweight and the only heavyweight to retire undeafeted.
2)Mike Tyson
-even though he was an idiot at the end of his career he still moved like a lightweight and punched like a heavyweight.
3)George Frazier
-when you read this youll be saying Ali is number 1. You might also say Ali beat Frazier 2 out of 3 times. If you watched those fights you know Frazier won the first and got riped off the 3rd time.
4)Ali
5)Holyfield
6)Joe Louis
7)Jersey Joe Walcott
8)Gene Tunney
9)George Foreman
10)Floyd Patterson
Honorable mentions(not in order)
Ray Mercer
Ezzard Charles
Max Bear
Max Schmeling
Lennox Lewis(underrated, fought great fighters)
Sam Langford(He has to be up there somewhere with 200 wins)
Riddick Bowe (look at his record, hes underrated)

rocky#1 wrote:1) Rocky Marciano
-every one sais he fought nobody good and if he did they were out of their prime. He still has the best record as a heavyweight and the only heavyweight to retire undeafeted.
2)Mike Tyson
-even though he was an idiot at the end of his career he still moved like a lightweight and punched like a heavyweight.
3)George Frazier -when you read this youll be saying Ali is number 1. You might also say Ali beat Frazier 2 out of 3 times. If you watched those fights you know Frazier won the first and got riped off the 3rd time.
4)Ali

You sound like a candidate for nutberry's posse.

Collins2000 wrote:

rocky#1 wrote:1) Rocky Marciano
-every one sais he fought nobody good and if he did they were out of their prime. He still has the best record as a heavyweight and the only heavyweight to retire undeafeted.
2)Mike Tyson
-even though he was an idiot at the end of his career he still moved like a lightweight and punched like a heavyweight.
3)George Frazier -when you read this youll be saying Ali is number 1. You might also say Ali beat Frazier 2 out of 3 times. If you watched those fights you know Frazier won the first and got riped off the 3rd time.
4)Ali

You sound like a candidate for nutberry's posse.

how do u get ripped off when your corner stops the fight?

ripped of is a weird choice of words.

"Man I want my money back...what a rip off"

I seen the same mistake made on a video that had the best fighters of the last 80 years, and the commentator said "George Frazier...." only later to say "George Foreman" later in the broadcast. Was hilarious. There was alot of different mistakes throughout the film, saying for instance that Primo Carnera was 6'9" [the Ambling Alp was 6' 5 3/4"] and made such ludacris statements such as "When Two Ton Tony Galento skipped rope, the ground shaked for miles" (no I am not making this up); though I think the Galento statement was just a joke because he was a fat man (though I dont think he ever fought over 240).

Honest mistake I guess.

I dont know...Galento was a pretty lardy guy....he may have made the earth move....under your feet...as the sky comes tumbling down,...

lmao, he was no more lardy than Don Cockell; and honestly, I can name two heavies who were even bigger or just as big as Butterbean

Whenever I see or read about Galento I can not help to think of him as a David 'Tank' Abbott type of character.

Dunno if I'd go that far, but that man wasn't a boxer that's for sure, he just went in and tried his best to annihilate his opponent by any means necessary. Just watch his fight with Lou Nova, it is almost beautiful in its terms of brutality; watch the Baer bouts as well, though Galento lost miserably in those.

I'd compare him, in a sense, to Tom Sharkey, in the sense that he was just about the dirtiest fighter in the game...but make no mistake, while Galento appeared to be a fat man, his left hook was lethal and he wasnt called the New Jersey Nightstick for nothing, he showed no mercy on anybody he faced.

Ive watched the Baer and Louis fight with him in it.

I agree one thing I noted after watching both is how he whacked that hook out there.

One thing about him, is he is a character, not neccesarily a good one..but a person of interest all the same.

I dont think there has ever been a greater trash talker in boxing history, Ali included, than Tony Galento; his game plan was to get his opponents so pissed off that they would lose all focus, and make it into a street brawl, where very few men were ever able to best him at.

He called Louis a bum, made lewd and crude remarks about his wife (somewhat reminds one of Roberto Duran when he called Leonard's wife a whore), and made disgusting gestures such as, during pre-fight introductions, Galento had began rubbing his groin area and told Louis just how good his wife was in bed...the result? Galento had Louis pissed off enough to brawl with him, and he ended up on the canvas for a few seconds.

For those few seconds, Galento was champ, and that's all that really mattered to him. In the years to come, both Baer and Louis would cite that Galento was the one opponent they both hated, and Louis once said in an interview that Galento came in the wrong era, that he would have been better suited in the bare knuckle days.

He no doubt would have....hehe classic stories.

Some guys just have the mongrel in them.

Galento vs Sullivan :)

My list:

1. Rocky Marciano
2. Joe Louis
3. Muhammad Ali
4. George Foreman
5. Joe Frazier
6. Jack Dempsey
7. Jack Johnson
8. Mike Tyson
9. Larry Holmes
10. Sonny Liston

1. Rocky Marciano
2> Muhammad Ali
3. Joe Louis
4. Joe Frazier
5. Jack Dempsey
6. Mike Tyson
7. George Foreman
8. Lennox Lewis
9. Larry Holmes
10. James Braddock

I just put Lennox Lewis ibn the top 10 because we (the boxing public) are dearly missing the absence of a one true heavyweight champion, and Lewis was the last of this breed.