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Re: He Went On Too Long

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 12:48
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
hitman_hatton1 wrote: barely anyone has known when to go really have they. :(
Marciano timed it perfectly, if hew waited 2 more years he'd have been old fighting Patterson, Cleveland Williams, Sonny Liston amongst others

Maybe Mayweather timed it right too if this is the last of him. I thought he slowed in his last 2, plus hes been distracted, partying harder etc.

Re: He Went On Too Long

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 12:53
by DG.
hitman_hatton1 wrote:holyfield.

ali.

duran.

leonard.

barely anyone has known when to go really have they. :(

Including you!

:D

Re: He Went On Too Long

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 13:27
by Asterix
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
hitman_hatton1 wrote: barely anyone has known when to go really have they. :(
Marciano timed it perfectly, if hew waited 2 more years he'd have been old fighting Patterson, Cleveland Williams, Sonny Liston amongst others

Maybe Mayweather timed it right too if this is the last of him. I thought he slowed in his last 2, plus hes been distracted, partying harder etc.
Agreed. I think Calzaghe has as well, as long as he beats Jones Jr and doesn't fight after.

Re: He Went On Too Long

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 17:47
by stujones
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
hitman_hatton1 wrote: barely anyone has known when to go really have they. :(
Marciano timed it perfectly, if hew waited 2 more years he'd have been old fighting Patterson, Cleveland Williams, Sonny Liston amongst others

Maybe Mayweather timed it right too if this is the last of him. I thought he slowed in his last 2, plus hes been distracted, partying harder etc.
Disagree.

Okay Mayweather didn't look too great against DLH.... but thats because DLH is a great. Mayweather vs DLH at any period is always going to be a fight in which Floyd isn't going to look as good as he does normally, cause DLH is that good.

I thought Floyd looked exceptionally beating up Hatton. Best performance since the Gatti fight and I would say up there among his top 5 performances ever.

Re: He Went On Too Long

Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 18:41
by Grilling Machine
Mosley. He's got the wealth and legacy; there are no reasons to fight on rather than his personal ones. And Toney of course, but I'd miss the trash-talk.

I think Calzaghe should retire with immediate effect. Whether he loses or not (I'm sure he's clever enough to pick the right opponent), he won't reach the performance heights of years gone by.

Re: He Went On Too Long

Posted: 19 Jun 2008, 12:30
by WildWaylon
Captain Hook wrote:
Flump wrote:Michael Brodie if he fights again.
Very true, I still recall how out of shape he was and how he slurred his words on Seconds Out a couple of months back. I wouldn't recommend it, same with Gomez but he has anyway.

But they need the cash....
You dont have to be shot or pissed to slurr your words, being tired can do it. Money is the motivation to carry on but if you do slurr your words all the time the coach should advise you to stop boxing. They should have their boxers safety and welfare at heart and sod the money it isnt that important.

Re: He Went On Too Long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 07:26
by Captain Hook
WildWaylon wrote:
Captain Hook wrote:
Flump wrote:Michael Brodie if he fights again.
Very true, I still recall how out of shape he was and how he slurred his words on Seconds Out a couple of months back. I wouldn't recommend it, same with Gomez but he has anyway.

But they need the cash....
You dont have to be shot or pissed to slurr your words, being tired can do it. Money is the motivation to carry on but if you do slurr your words all the time the coach should advise you to stop boxing. They should have their boxers safety and welfare at heart and sod the money it isnt that important.
Cheers Doctor Waylon! He was f*cked mate. He wasn't drunk.

It's a bad move, which is a shame as I'm a fan of his.

Re: He Went On Too Long

Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 17:56
by lvlarc
I think Hopkins' spoiling tactics along with other factors meant Calzaghe didn't perform to the best of his ability, but he still has enough left in the tank to beat Pavlik and an old Jones.

Kevin Kelley is scheduled for another fight next month. A very good fighter in his prime, yet still fights on for the cash I imagine. 40 years old, ancient for any featherweight.

Re: He Went On Too Long

Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 16:43
by Matt W
Tyson - should have retired after Lewis. He was finished after Nielsen but the hype and payday justify the Lewis match.

Gatti - should have retired after the pummelling Floyd gave him.

RJJ I don't understand given his risk aversion during his prime.

Michael Moorer.

Re: He Went On Too Long

Posted: 21 Jun 2008, 17:24
by Rob Magic
Tyson definitly. Should of called it quits after the Lewis fight. His two last defeats what would he of done to them in his prime.