Tua v. Cameron

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How does Cameron demand 50/50 split or he walks, then gets it - but was going to fight Hoppa for chump change? (I was told around $12 to $15 grand max).

Just hope this fight is good viewing.
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convict wrote:How does Cameron demand 50/50 split or he walks, then gets it - but was going to fight Hoppa for chump change? (I was told around $12 to $15 grand max).

Just hope this fight is good viewing.
if tuaman comes fit...it will be entertaining.
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convict wrote:I just read this http://www.stuff.co.nz/sundaynews/4762391a15599.html
I cant belive Cameron is worth $400,000....The same as what Tua is worth for this fight.
....and Kushner still does not know that Samoa is not part of New Zealand.
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Potentially a great match-up, and unlikely to go the distance.

Tua at 49 + 3 +1 has only lost to very good opposition. Cameron record 22 + 1 is good, but I thought he struggled against Mirovic.

IMO the power & experience of Tua will see him through.
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COULDHAVEBEEN wrote:Potentially a great match-up, and unlikely to go the distance.

Tua at 49 + 3 +1 has only lost to very good opposition. Cameron record 22 + 1 is good, but I thought he struggled against Mirovic.

IMO the power & experience of Tua will see him through.
Did he struggle with Bob before or after he knocked him out cold? Having said that, he didn't look awesome against him untill that punch.
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toppity wrote:
COULDHAVEBEEN wrote:Potentially a great match-up, and unlikely to go the distance.

Tua at 49 + 3 +1 has only lost to very good opposition. Cameron record 22 + 1 is good, but I thought he struggled against Mirovic.

IMO the power & experience of Tua will see him through.
Did he struggle with Bob before or after he knocked him out cold? Having said that, he didn't look awesome against him untill that punch.
Agreed that he didn't look great till the KO - but remember he broke his right hand in the first round, hard to look good when you can't throw your right as hard as you'd like
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Tua looked reasonable in his last outing, Cameron is not as good as people think Friday showed that.
Tua by KO
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I think Alex leapai will make a great sparring partner for Shane Cameron...hes got great power and some head movement that in some ways simulates Tua. Mix in between sparring rounds with Welliver and Solomon Haumono and some explosive fit Heavyweight Amateurs, Brad Pitt and up and comer Guy Sinclair (one to watch) to build up his endurance and Stamina which Tua struggles with over 12 rounds.
If Tua gets himself in top condition, which I'm no sure he will, especially being on home soil, Cameron will be in for a shock.
I've got Tua by TKO rd 11 or MD over 12. Otherwise Cameron by UD.(with a good payday) compliments of Tuas reputation...
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is there any deal for this to be shown in the states? there was always interest in Tua there, and even small coverage would be worth some coin.
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You can be sure Kushner will be working on something to get this fight coverage in the states.

My only concern is Tuas inactivity, which maye see him looking rusty for 4-6 rounds but i think he'll warm into pretty quickly, hes been there done that so many times before on the big stage he wont be concerned. I think he HAS to come in TOP shape and im sure he will a win over Cameron will put him pretty close to a world title fight. But im sure he wont want to take the cash and loose to Cameron. I just think Tua has the power edge, chin, experience to do the same job Friday did to Cameron, Yes Shane maybe a better fighter for the Friday experience but since the Friday fight he hasnt fought a Power punching guy with a rock chin whos not afraid to mix it up with him.
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I Totally agree however I think Tua has had enough fights now to be able to get rid of most of the ring rust in the gym, and no doubt he will have axcess to top sparring from the states.
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I'm very excited - been told to keep an eye out for a press release....
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when is this ?

tua hasnt fought any decent level for absolutely years

cameron can wear you down....

shane for a late stoppage if his dsnt mix it too much
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I think the release will detail a tune up fight for the Tuaman, I'm guessing it'll be in Auckland and probably in the not too distant future if there's still any chance of the Cameron fight going ahead.
I don't know Funso, I just don't see Cameron boxing well enough for long enough not to get caught at some point in the first half of the fight, so for me it really comes down to how much Tua's got left.
His last couple of fights (Fox, Montana) looked good - not the wreaking ball of his younger days of course - but that was so long ago now...
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Any word n this press release?
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Marlin wrote:Any word n this press release?
you ask and you shall receive.

18,Jan,2009

Finally, Tua vs Cameron is on!

By Eugene Carnachan

Heavyweights Shane “Mountain Warrior” Cameron (22 -1, 19 KOs) and David Tua (49-3-1, 42 KOs) have agreed to fight later on this year. Both have signed contracts with promotions company Duco. Ian Fraser, one time head of Television New Zealand, has joined forces with Duco to squeeze as much revenue out of the fight that’s being called “The Fight of the Century”. Tua still holds the honor of bringing in the most viewers to a sporting event in New Zealand history. Over one million New Zealanders tuned in to see his failed attempt to dethrone long time champ Lennox Lewis. Duco have yet to set out a venue and date and both Cameron and Tua are both expected to have tune-up bouts, so in all likelihood their showdown will take place around July or August.

Cameron is taking a warm up bout on March 7 against journeyman Leo Nolan. This fight is scheduled to take place in Cameron’s hometown of Gisborne. Written into Cameron’s contract is that he must win this fight in order of the fight with Tua to go ahead.

Tua is looking at a warm up fight that could take place in either Samoa (Tua’s place of birth) or Tua’s New Zealand base of South Auckland. It is not clear if Tua’s contract contains the same must-win clause as Cameron’s.

Both men have come forward styles and share 64 knockouts between them. Both are known to be hittable, however Cameron in his career has shown a propensity to cut and be hurt by opponents with much less pop than the famed power of Tua. So should it come to a slug out in a dug out, one would expect Tua to win given his set of whiskers has withstood a much higher caliber of opponents.

That said, Cameron is renowned for his work ethic in the gym and should he turn up and move Tua from corner to corner and drag the fight into deep water he could make a contest of it.

Even though months away this fight is garnering big attention from the New Zealand public and for both is a crossroads fight given Cameron ranked number eight by the WBO is putting his regional belts on the line. Should he lose he will drop down the pecking order and for Tua he has much to gain given he isn’t ranked by any of the major bodies and has been largerly inactive due to matters of litigation pertaining to his former managers.
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im looking forward to this fight, should be a cracker for the first few rounds, but i think that if tua has anything left of hes old self, he will stop cameron around the 5th
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this bloke wrote:im looking forward to this fight, should be a cracker for the first few rounds, but i think that if tua has anything left of hes old self, he will stop cameron around the 5th
Nah - if he's got anything left in the tank it'll be inside the first 3 or 4 I reckon, Cameron hasn't shown the boxing skills or brains to be able to stay away from Tuas hook for long enough
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June 6 in Auckland.

Tua has fought a far more impressive list of fighters than Cameron and has never been KOed. He beat Moorer and drew with Rahman. He went the distance with Lewis, Byrd and Ibeabuchi.

He is still very dangerous.
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if i was forced to put my house on one of them it would have to be tua.
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Tua has a 'warm up' bout coming up... opponent TBA

http://www.roguemag.com/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=83

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adnileb wrote:I think Alex leapai will make a great sparring partner for Shane Cameron...hes got great power and some head movement that in some ways simulates Tua. Mix in between sparring rounds with Welliver and Solomon Haumono and some explosive fit Heavyweight Amateurs, Brad Pitt and up and comer Guy Sinclair (one to watch) to build up his endurance and Stamina which Tua struggles with over 12 rounds.
If Tua gets himself in top condition, which I'm no sure he will, especially being on home soil, Cameron will be in for a shock.
I've got Tua by TKO rd 11 or MD over 12. Otherwise Cameron by UD.(with a good payday) compliments of Tuas reputation...

Maybe Tua could talk Mike Tyson into sparring with him. Mike could probably do with some extra cash. :roll:
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