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davidk59 wrote:firstly i'll start with duran and lenny .lenny at this point is obviously not as good as duran yet .but the aggressive come in and land good power shots are there and with that pacman sparring he will have a lot of motivation .he's on his way up .gairy st clair is on his way out.
now as far as olympic silver medalists boxing rings around people what about my friend alex tui a good kickboxer but a journeyman boxer not even aust champ knocking out spike cheney in all fairness cheney won a rematch due to cut eye stoppage but was never the same again
now nathan briggs and michael kirby i'll let the people decide who won that eight round contest i'ts on you tube michael was never hurt and never held on .but briggsy was hurt on several occasions and held on through out the fight michael was sick and did tier a bit in the last round but he at least won five rounds or a draw would have been fair.

davidk59 wrote:firstly i'll start with duran and lenny .lenny at this point is obviously not as good as duran yet .but the aggressive come in and land good power shots are there and with that pacman sparring he will have a lot of motivation .he's on his way up .gairy st clair is on his way out.
now as far as olympic silver medalists boxing rings around people what about my friend alex tui a good kickboxer but a journeyman boxer not even aust champ knocking out spike cheney in all fairness cheney won a rematch due to cut eye stoppage but was never the same again
now nathan briggs and michael kirby i'll let the people decide who won that eight round contest i'ts on you tube michael was never hurt and never held on .but briggsy was hurt on several occasions and held on through out the fight michael was sick and did tier a bit in the last round but he at least won five rounds or a draw would have been fair.

ben k wrote:

davidk59 wrote:firstly i'll start with duran and lenny .lenny at this point is obviously not as good as duran yet .but the aggressive come in and land good power shots are there and with that pacman sparring he will have a lot of motivation .he's on his way up .gairy st clair is on his way out.
now as far as olympic silver medalists boxing rings around people what about my friend alex tui a good kickboxer but a journeyman boxer not even aust champ knocking out spike cheney in all fairness cheney won a rematch due to cut eye stoppage but was never the same again
now nathan briggs and michael kirby i'll let the people decide who won that eight round contest i'ts on you tube michael was never hurt and never held on .but briggsy was hurt on several occasions and held on through out the fight michael was sick and did tier a bit in the last round but he at least won five rounds or a draw would have been fair.

I agree with you on a few pionts David.

I cant see the comparison between Lenny and Zappa though. Khan is a good boxer and although he has been KOd he would be a hard task for Lenny. The reach and height advantage would be hard to nulify and although Browne was also tall he didnt have the pop to keep Lenny off him.

I agree with you about StClair, Ive never been impressed by him as he seems lazy in a lot of fights. His chin and defence is good, Skills decent but far from World class. The first time i seen him live he was fighting in Perth against James Swan, It was a draw althouygh i thought Gairy took the fight he looked far from impressive.

Micheal is a good honest fighter and it will be good to see him in again with Briggs. Good luck to him if the fight goes ahead.

ryan711 wrote:heres some news from sportsnut

Former Manny Pacquiao sparring partner turned raging hot Aussie prospect Lenny Zappavigna is set for the biggest challenge of his career – a fight with former IBF super featherweight world champion Gairy St Clair in February.
The 21-year-old slugger is unbeaten in 17 fights with 13 KOs and coming off a sixth-round stoppage of two-time world title challenger Tommy Browne who had fought In Jin Chi and Chris John in featherweight title fights.
Zappavigna who has made a habit of stopping Filipinos, perfected his skills with six weeks sparring against the world’s top fighter Manny Pacquiao as The Pac Man prepared to face Jorge Solis in San Antonio, Texas last year.

He is a 2006 Commonwealth Games bronze medallist.
The 33-year-old St Clair beat Cassius Baloyi for the IBF junior-lightweight title in 2006.
Losses to Baloyi in a rematch and to Amir Khan, William Kickett and Mlungisi Dlamini have been interspersed with wins against Filipinos Robert Oyan, Jun Paderna and Junmar Dulog.
St Clair was chasing a fight with Pacquiao until the loss to Khan in London.

davidk59 wrote:besides anenigma stated that i have no idea i know nothing because charging forward ,even if it shuts your opponent down that the opponent thinks that your going to zig when you zag is not skillful and has no place in the sweet science .

davidk59 wrote:ha ha ha ha ha the only way he won't beat briggs if briggs doesn't fight him again.

toppity wrote:many good fighters have prevailed via power alone. But some have been found out due to their inability to adapt. I've said it several times.....I thing Lenny has many of the attributes to be an axcellent fighter, but if he continues to keep his left too low he will eventually be found out. I also hope he finds/has trainers and managers that have the ability to launch him onto the world stage. It takes many more things than power alone to make it in the big time.

this bloke wrote:i think this could be a good clash of styles and make a really entertaining fight
and a really good guide as to where zappa is at

zappa should definitely start a short favorite, but i dont think u can completely count st clair out