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Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:52

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:03

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 14:53

The dude proud of shoving multiple digits and his fishbait up any slimey ass that skids by chimes in.

It was a legit draw. Get over it butthurt brigade.

Away and finger your kid on wife ya weirdo

DrDuke wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:55

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 14:51

DrDuke wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 13:59

Yes, you gotta score 3 rounds, except KD ones, for Wilder to make it a draw. I can't see Wilder winning more, than 2 rounds, except KD ones, and I actually hardly doubt to give him that 2 rounds. So for me draw doesn't sound legit.

Fair enough. I have the polar opposite view of the fight, with the exception that I do consider the draw legit, based on my acknowledgement that there were too many close rounds that could reasonably been scored either way depending on your view of the fight and environment in which you viewed it.

The judges all have different physical perspectives of the action. That alone, in a fight with as little action as this one entailed for over half of the fight, is solid ground for legitimizing the draw, even though I felt Wilder won comfortably.

I don't believe, that judges scored it that way because of what you've mentioned. I'm even not talking about this fight. The judging is corrupt everywhere. From how I understand the situation, the promoters directly affect judging. An organizing body makes everything. That's logical, orginizers spend huge amounts of money on their events. So they try to make their side win in order not spend all the money for nothing. Joshua is being given the edge in his fights, cause his promotion takes care about him well. De La Hoya's fighters are often well protected. Wilder always had an edge, so does he now. The judges can be international, that doesn't matter, they are hired to do their job by particular organizers. My point is, judges here, as always, has been giving the edge to the local fighter.

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:57

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:52

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:03
The dude proud of shoving multiple digits and his fishbait up any slimey ass that skids by chimes in.

It was a legit draw. Get over it butthurt brigade.

Away and finger your kid on wife ya weirdo

Wow, nice comeback.

We definitely did not see the same fight since I did not have a gram of “gear” shoved up an orifice or two while watching it.

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:57

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:52

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:03
The dude proud of shoving multiple digits and his fishbait up any slimey ass that skids by chimes in.

It was a legit draw. Get over it butthurt brigade.

Away and finger your kid on wife ya weirdo

Wow, nice comeback.

We definitely did not see the same fight since I did not have a gram of “gear” shoved up an orifice or two while watching it.

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:25

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:57

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:52

Away and finger your kid on wife ya weirdo

Wow, nice comeback.

We definitely did not see the same fight since I did not have a gram of “gear” shoved up an orifice or two while watching it.

I've watched the fight back several times and Fury won. The vast majority can't be wrong fukk nut

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:29

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:25

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:57
Wow, nice comeback.

We definitely did not see the same fight since I did not have a gram of “gear” shoved up an orifice or two while watching it.

I've watched the fight back several times and Fury won. The vast majority can't be wrong fukk nut

Actually, “the vast majority” can “be wrong” and has been wrong many times in history.

The judges were provably legit. You just don’t agree with their decision. Neither do I, but I am objective enough to understand how they came to it.

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:02

DrDuke wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:55

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 14:51
Fair enough. I have the polar opposite view of the fight, with the exception that I do consider the draw legit, based on my acknowledgement that there were too many close rounds that could reasonably been scored either way depending on your view of the fight and environment in which you viewed it.

The judges all have different physical perspectives of the action. That alone, in a fight with as little action as this one entailed for over half of the fight, is solid ground for legitimizing the draw, even though I felt Wilder won comfortably.

I don't believe, that judges scored it that way because of what you've mentioned. I'm even not talking about this fight. The judging is corrupt everywhere. From how I understand the situation, the promoters directly affect judging. An organizing body makes everything. That's logical, orginizers spend huge amounts of money on their events. So they try to make their side win in order not spend all the money for nothing. Joshua is being given the edge in his fights, cause his promotion takes care about him well. De La Hoya's fighters are often well protected. Wilder always had an edge, so does he now. The judges can be international, that doesn't matter, they are hired to do their job by particular organizers. My point is, judges here, as always, has been giving the edge to the local fighter.

Ok, so you think that every major fight is fixed, correct?

If so, how do you explain the draw card? If not for the KD in the 12th, Fury would have won a split decision with the Mexican’s card possibly 114-113.

Your argument holds no water in this case, imo.

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:33

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:29

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:25

I've watched the fight back several times and Fury won. The vast majority can't be wrong fukk nut

Actually, “the vast majority” can “be wrong” and has been wrong many times in history.

The judges were provably legit. You just don’t agree with their decision. Neither do I, but I am objective enough to understand how they came to it.

I can just about understand a draw but I still think it was a ridiculous decision. I can't get my head round the other card at all.

I've watched the fight 4 times and Fury won with a bit to spare IMO. You're the one getting pissy about it sweetheart

Btw what are you going to do next time they ban you for being a wanker? Stick on a dress and come back as your mum

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:39

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:33

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:29
Actually, “the vast majority” can “be wrong” and has been wrong many times in history.

The judges were provably legit. You just don’t agree with their decision. Neither do I, but I am objective enough to understand how they came to it.

I can just about understand a draw but I still think it was a ridiculous decision. I can't get my head round the other card at all.

I've watched the fight 4 times and Fury won with a bit to spare IMO. You're the one getting pissy about it sweetheart

Btw what are you going to do next time they ban you for being a wanker? Stick on a dress and come back as your mum

The other card would not have mattered if Wilder had not one-twoed your heart throb to the edge of the abyss. That was a special kind of schooling Fury did in round 12.

Go watch it four more times while NOT fingering a step brother or getting plowed by an uncle, NotPissy.

DrDuke wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:34

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:02

DrDuke wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:55

I don't believe, that judges scored it that way because of what you've mentioned. I'm even not talking about this fight. The judging is corrupt everywhere. From how I understand the situation, the promoters directly affect judging. An organizing body makes everything. That's logical, orginizers spend huge amounts of money on their events. So they try to make their side win in order not spend all the money for nothing. Joshua is being given the edge in his fights, cause his promotion takes care about him well. De La Hoya's fighters are often well protected. Wilder always had an edge, so does he now. The judges can be international, that doesn't matter, they are hired to do their job by particular organizers. My point is, judges here, as always, has been giving the edge to the local fighter.

Ok, so you think that every major fight is fixed, correct?

If so, how do you explain the draw card? If not for the KD in the 12th, Fury would have won a split decision with the Mexican’s card possibly 114-113.

Your argument holds no water in this case, imo.

I said initially, that I believe in that. I obviously have no proof, that all those judges were paid to fix cards. But according to my belief they are paid to edge the fights, not to score them absolutely in the favor of hometown guys, cause in this case controvercy will become much bigger. So, in cases, when fights are close to the shotout, this aid won't be very helpful.

In this particular example my prediction before the fight was that Fury would win wide objectively, but the scores would be narrowed. He was going for it, but unfortunately he blinked for a couple of times not in an appropriate moment.

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:40

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:39

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:33

I can just about understand a draw but I still think it was a ridiculous decision. I can't get my head round the other card at all.

I've watched the fight 4 times and Fury won with a bit to spare IMO. You're the one getting pissy about it sweetheart

Btw what are you going to do next time they ban you for being a wanker? Stick on a dress and come back as your mum

The other card would not have mattered if Wilder had not one-twoed your heart throb to the edge of the abyss. That was a special kind of schooling Fury did in round 12.

Go watch it four more times while NOT fingering a step brother or getting plowed by an uncle, NotPissy.

Are you guys like 12 y/o or something? The insults aren't even good ones...sheesh!

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:50

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:40

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:39
The other card would not have mattered if Wilder had not one-twoed your heart throb to the edge of the abyss. That was a special kind of schooling Fury did in round 12.

Go watch it four more times while NOT fingering a step brother or getting plowed by an uncle, NotPissy.

Are you guys like 12 y/o or something? The insults aren't even good ones...sheesh!

Cover your eyes oogiebe. I am conversing civilly with those who reciprocate.

The Butthurt Brigade I return fire with.

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:24

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:57

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:52

Away and finger your kid on wife ya weirdo

Wow, nice comeback.

We definitely did not see the same fight since I did not have a gram of “gear” shoved up an orifice or two while watching it.

Maybe you should try it. Would perhaps make you less of an uptight cúnty little prick

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:06

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:24

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:57
Wow, nice comeback.

We definitely did not see the same fight since I did not have a gram of “gear” shoved up an orifice or two while watching it.

Maybe you should try it. Would perhaps make you less of an uptight cúnty little prick

Go watch people get mugged outside your window, slimey fingers.

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:25

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:57

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 15:52

Away and finger your kid on wife ya weirdo

Wow, nice comeback.

We definitely did not see the same fight since I did not have a gram of “gear” shoved up an orifice or two while watching it.

I've watched the fight back several times and Fury won. The vast majority can't be wrong fukk nut

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:07

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:06

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:24

Maybe you should try it. Would perhaps make you less of an uptight cúnty little prick

Go watch people get mugged outside your window, slimey fingers.

Really...that's all you got?

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:13

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:07

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:06
Go watch people get mugged outside your window, slimey fingers.

Really...that's all you got?

oogiebe! I am trying to be sensitive to your blindered vision.

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:15

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:13

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:07

Really...that's all you got?

oogiebe! I am trying to be sensitive to your blindered vision.

At least make an effort to be better on your insults. C'mon...! "Slimey Fingers?" Get creative. (BTW: Blindered is an excellent term)

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:22

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:15

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:13
oogiebe! I am trying to be sensitive to your blindered vision.

At least make an effort to be better on your insults. C'mon...! "Slimey Fingers?" Get creative. (BTW: Blindered is an excellent term)

You don’t know Stuarty too well, do you. He’d stick his fingers up a pugs ass looking for worms if the owner looked away.

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:24

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:22

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:15
At least make an effort to be better on your insults. C'mon...! "Slimey Fingers?" Get creative. (BTW: Blindered is an excellent term)

You don’t know Stuarty too well, do you. He’d stick his fingers up a pugs ass looking for worms if the owner looked away.

Much better! (Geez!) So you're saying he wouldn't be fit to poor piss out of a boot if the instructions were on the heel?

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:28

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:24

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:22
You don’t know Stuarty too well, do you. He’d stick his fingers up a pugs ass looking for worms if the owner looked away.

Much better! (Geez!) So you're saying he wouldn't be fit to poor piss out of a boot if the instructions were on the heel?

Nah, I actually like Stuarty. We just have a minor misunderstanding now and then (and I’d refrain from shaking his hand for obvious hygiene reasons).

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:22

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:15

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:13
oogiebe! I am trying to be sensitive to your blindered vision.

At least make an effort to be better on your insults. C'mon...! "Slimey Fingers?" Get creative. (BTW: Blindered is an excellent term)

You don’t know Stuarty too well, do you? He’d stick his fingers up a pugs ass looking for worms if the owner looked away.

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:39

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:33

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:29
Actually, “the vast majority” can “be wrong” and has been wrong many times in history.

The judges were provably legit. You just don’t agree with their decision. Neither do I, but I am objective enough to understand how they came to it.

I can just about understand a draw but I still think it was a ridiculous decision. I can't get my head round the other card at all.

I've watched the fight 4 times and Fury won with a bit to spare IMO. You're the one getting pissy about it sweetheart

Btw what are you going to do next time they ban you for being a wanker? Stick on a dress and come back as your mum

The other card would not have mattered if Wilder had not one-twoed your heart throb to the edge of the abyss. That was a special kind of schooling Fury did in round 12.

Go watch it four more times while NOT fingering a step brother or getting plowed by an uncle, NotPissy.

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 19:35

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:22

oogiebe wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 17:15
At least make an effort to be better on your insults. C'mon...! "Slimey Fingers?" Get creative. (BTW: Blindered is an excellent term)

You don’t know Stuarty too well, do you? He’d stick his fingers up a pugs ass looking for worms if the owner looked away.

They wouldn't even need to look away! I'm not shy bruv

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 19:37

ironbeard wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:39

Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Dec 2018, 16:33

I can just about understand a draw but I still think it was a ridiculous decision. I can't get my head round the other card at all.

I've watched the fight 4 times and Fury won with a bit to spare IMO. You're the one getting pissy about it sweetheart

Btw what are you going to do next time they ban you for being a wanker? Stick on a dress and come back as your mum

The other card would not have mattered if Wilder had not one-twoed your heart throb to the edge of the abyss. That was a special kind of schooling Fury did in round 12.

Go watch it four more times while NOT fingering a step brother or getting plowed by an uncle, NotPissy.

Heartthrob? I like Fury. I'm a fan. If you read my boxing posts you'd know I was a Wilder fan as well! Fury won that fight.