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Onetimeonly wrote: ↑06 Dec 2019, 22:07

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑06 Dec 2019, 21:29 The pressure got even more for AJ. He cannot lose to a Ruiz in this condition. Rooting for AJ. I had originally picked AJ. Then switched to Ruiz. Now I have no clue.

He already lost to Ruiz in awful condition. The pressure is definitely on Josh but he's the only one that cares. If Ruiz loses tomorrow I wouldn't be at all surprised if he never fights again.

It'll be interesting. A lot of factors going into this rematch. AJ looks super focused for sure. I admire his determination in his preparation in attempting to avenge this loss.

Cannot believe how many fools are picking Ruiz to win again. What happened in the first fight was obvious. Watch it again and figure it out for yourself if you don’t already know.

Joshua won’t take him lightly again either.

Buster Douglas vs. Holyfield: 246
- Buster Douglas vs. Tyson: 231 1/2
= 14 1/2

Andy Ruiz Jr vs. Joshua II: 283
- Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Joshua I: 268
- 1/2 lb sombrero
= 14 1/2

ewenhay wrote: ↑06 Dec 2019, 16:47 Yeah but how is Joshua going to be able to box like a young Ali when he doesn't have the speed or the skills to do that. As well as being 8 or 9 years older than that Ali

People still think Joshua doesn’t have speed? Watch that perfectly timed hook he downed Ruiz with following the uppercut and tell me he isn’t fast. And him not having skills? That’s hilarious.

He doesn’t need to be Ali to beat Andy fkin Ruiz. Christ. People are getting drunk on the last fight. Look at Ruiz’s overall body of work, look at the slob he weighed in as yesterday, and tell me he’s going to win. Jesus.

Ruiz claims he gained 10 lbs in one day eating and drinking regularly.
Do any of you gain 10 pounds every day ?
Wouldn't we all be 3000 pounds then ?
Ruiz has been sleeping in silk sheets eating bon bons.
Anything can happen but I think he's beat himself.

Joshua gonna KO Ruiz..no doubt....

Fat slob or not.... he’s gonna walk down AND walk right thru Joshua. The “straight-up, robotic, British/African style” of AJ is going to TRY and do a transformation into a stick and move, jab, be elusive and pick his spots. They robbed him of the one thing he had going for him.... natural, athletic power. He’s gonna fold and tire even more quickly doing a bad impression of a fighter with skills he doesn’t possess. He’s gonna try and move and jab and box, drop the left hand and a la Western style boxing. It isn’t going to work for him. He’s gonna get caught “pulling out” by a left hook.... and GANKED.

I’m not even scared about Ruiz’s weight gain, the physical transformation whereby AJ has lost 10lbs of lean body tissue means that he has done tons and tons of backwards, stupid shite to be able to be “more fluid and smoother punching”. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work that way..... the result is going to be slower hand speed, lesser natural upper body power and obviously a downturn in punching power.

At the highest levels of sport..... you don’t sacrifice an athletes best natural attribute to “bring up” his weaknesses. Even though boxing is a different animal comparatively to most sports.... this is one of those “non-negotiable” types of rules.

Ruiz' Body Mass Index (BMI) is 36.8. That makes him clinically obese (class 2). And the weight is not because of muscles, I mean his legs are skinny as Wilder's. He is in high risk of becoming diabetic and other ilnesses releated to obesity. He's going to move that body around the ring and walk down Joshua? Right

mustlogin wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 04:18 Ruiz' Body Mass Index (BMI) is 36.8. That makes him clinically obese (class 2). And the weight is not because of muscles, I mean his legs are skinny as Wilder's. He is in high risk of becoming diabetic and other ilnesses releated to obesity. He's going to move that body around the ring and walk down Joshua? Right

What about Big Baby?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 04:37

mustlogin wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 04:18 Ruiz' Body Mass Index (BMI) is 36.8. That makes him clinically obese (class 2). And the weight is not because of muscles, I mean his legs are skinny as Wilder's. He is in high risk of becoming diabetic and other ilnesses releated to obesity. He's going to move that body around the ring and walk down Joshua? Right

What about Big Baby?

38.1. But he's more muscular and juicing with everything he can find

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 03:19

ewenhay wrote: ↑06 Dec 2019, 16:47 Yeah but how is Joshua going to be able to box like a young Ali when he doesn't have the speed or the skills to do that. As well as being 8 or 9 years older than that Ali

People still think Joshua doesn’t have speed? Watch that perfectly timed hook he downed Ruiz with following the uppercut and tell me he isn’t fast. And him not having skills? That’s hilarious.

He doesn’t need to be Ali to beat Andy fkin Ruiz. Christ. People are getting drunk on the last fight. Look at Ruiz’s overall body of work, look at the slob he weighed in as yesterday, and tell me he’s going to win. Jesus.

I don't get where people get Ruiz is faster. He's plodding to me. Then again, maybe I just refuse to credit him with anything but a huge rack. I expect nothing out of him today. I'm a bit pissed at myself for betting decision. This is his retirement fund. The Ali that fought Berwick would be this tub of lard.

diddy wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 01:18 Cannot believe how many fools are picking Ruiz to win again. What happened in the first fight was obvious. Watch it again and figure it out for yourself if you don’t already know.

Joshua won’t take him lightly again either.

he took ruiz lightly? my ass!

ruiz got hit so hard by that left hook without seeing it coming that the sheer impact put him on his ass.

almost every other heavyweight would have been out for the count after that punch but he was up on his feet instantly. unphazed.

watch back that huge right hand ruiz ate up right after.

joshua put his whole weight in that picture perfect straight right.

ruiz just walked thru that hellacious bomb, ready to return the favour, putting joshua on queer street for the rest of the fight.

i'm not saying joshua has no chance. if he manages to land on ruiz 'consistively' those kind of punches, he will do damage without a doubt.

just don't see him coming out on top of the decisive exchanges where both of them let their hands go, often enough.

see him trying to avoid them alltogether as he knows the outcome.

joshua will try to keep ruiz off vlad style.

never ever has ruiz that bmi. that's just crazy. u are underestimating the amount of muscle by a fvcking mile. or am i off here?

he's just defo not "morbidly" obese. frikkin fit as a fiddle. he has a layer of fat over an enormously muscular frame.

Rewatching the first fight... I don't know what is Joshua's gameplan with the lean physique. It's not like he gains anything by being lighter on his feet. Or am I missing something?

Ruiz is a stylistically bad match-up for Joshua, but he has huge flaws in his game. His inside game isn't particularly impressive for his type and he is only really effective as a counterpuncher; Joshua could actually just let him take the inititative and fire back whenever Ruiz extends himself for a punch. It may not be spectacular and it would take some adapting (something Joshua has yet to show in his career), but it would take away the only really advantage Ruiz has here.

adislav123 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 06:44 never ever has ruiz that bmi. that's just crazy. u are underestimating the amount of muscle by a fvcking mile. or am i off here?

he's just defo not "morbidly" obese. frikkin fit as a fiddle. he has a layer of fat over an enormously muscular frame.

BMI is not very scientific measure of anything as it doesn't even take muscle mass into account. It's not a diagnostic tool.

Ruiz might be 100% healthy. But in any case that kind of weight makes him more prone to injuries.

adislav123 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 06:44 never ever has ruiz that bmi. that's just crazy. u are underestimating the amount of muscle by a fvcking mile. or am i off here?

he's just defo not "morbidly" obese. frikkin fit as a fiddle. he has a layer of fat over an enormously muscular frame.

You’re off here. And everywhere else.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 06:21

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 03:19

People still think Joshua doesn’t have speed? Watch that perfectly timed hook he downed Ruiz with following the uppercut and tell me he isn’t fast. And him not having skills? That’s hilarious.

He doesn’t need to be Ali to beat Andy fkin Ruiz. Christ. People are getting drunk on the last fight. Look at Ruiz’s overall body of work, look at the slob he weighed in as yesterday, and tell me he’s going to win. Jesus.

I don't get where people get Ruiz is faster. He's plodding to me. Then again, maybe I just refuse to credit him with anything but a huge rack. I expect nothing out of him today. I'm a bit pissed at myself for betting decision. This is his retirement fund. The Ali that fought Berwick would be this tub of lard.

I regretted betting decision too for a bit but I do think there’s a good chance AJ will show a low output which is going to make it easier for Ruiz to sleepwalk to the final bell.

Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 07:57

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 06:21

I don't get where people get Ruiz is faster. He's plodding to me. Then again, maybe I just refuse to credit him with anything but a huge rack. I expect nothing out of him today. I'm a bit pissed at myself for betting decision. This is his retirement fund. The Ali that fought Berwick would be this tub of lard.

I regretted betting decision too for a bit but I do think there’s a good chance AJ will show a low output which is going to make it easier for Ruiz to sleepwalk to the final bell.

I agree that's the plan, I can just see Andy staying in the corner down 8-0.

Ruiz discusses his weight-- all 283 pounds

Shortly after the weigh-in, Ruiz Jr. spoke with DAZN News to discuss why there was such a big discrepancy in weight. “I was already the same weight as the last fight this morning,” Ruiz explained. “I had to wait until almost 5 p.m. to get on the scale, so I already had my breakfast, lunch and dinner. I also weighed in with my sombrero and pants on, so that’s why I came in so heavy. It was a psychological thing as well.”

Ruiz suggested that he wanted to keep the Joshua camp guessing when it came to his weight and feels that he was successful in doing so with Friday’s weigh-in. He also promised that the attributes that were there in the first fight would be present for the rematch. As for Joshua coming in 10 pounds lighter than he did in the first fight at 237 pounds, Ruiz is unsure what it will mean on fight night.

“It could be good or not,” he said. “We don’t know if he’s still going to have that same pop in his punches. It could be a disadvantage, which is why I decided to come in a little heavier in this fight. I can move him around, be a little bit stronger and have more pop in my punches.”

Ruiz did notice a difference in the eyes of Joshua from the first time they stared each other down ahead of their June 1st fight compared to now. “He definitely has more focus, and he’s not talking as much,” Ruiz said. “I don’t know what he really feels inside. He might say to himself that he’s ready for this, but everybody has a plan until they get hit. But all fighters have to show that they are confident, so we’ll see what it all means on fight night.”

Admittedly, Ruiz is far more carefree than most boxers. Always smiling and often looking as if he’s just happy to be there has always been part of his persona. However, one thing that he wouldn’t joke about is the idea that he’d allow Joshua to hold his world titles like Joshua did for him ahead of the first fight. “F— no!” Ruiz exclaimed. “I was actually the one who asked him if I could see his belts the first time, and he let me hold them. We were both respecting each other, but it was always just fun psychological stuff for me, you know?”

It’s clear that Ruiz enjoys the mind games heading into the rematch. But whether fans question his lighthearted personality or how much he weighs doesn’t matter to him. The only thing that matters is that he returns to the United States and Mexico carrying the very world titles he brought to Saudi Arabia with him to defend.

“It means a lot for me to bring those titles back home,” he said. “Still, to this day, I have so many doubters who refuse to give me the credit I deserve for beating Anthony Joshua. They have said he wasn’t ready, or he had a mental breakdown. That won’t happen this time around. All of the pressure is on him now, and I’m going to die trying to get that victory.”

He just says he HAS to fight like Wlad.

Are CS using this for the RBR or you want a separate thread??

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑07 Dec 2019, 11:29 Are CS using this for the RBR or you want a separate thread??

I guess, this will be enough.