Tyson Fury vs. Francis Ngannou | TNT PPV - 28 October 2023

[Redback Rasta]

Usyk won`t have the privilege to sit and wait for the pay day - as main belt holder he will have mandatory`s .. Dubs then whoever else quickly after.

It seems Simon Jordan has upset the proposed organiser by mentioning the purses to each boxer. Fury £90million .. Usyk £50 .. Wilder/AJ £30million. Thats going to make ego`s get stirred for sure; the tournament doesn`t work/sell so big without each of the 4.
Is Fury taking part worth almost double Usyk? .. is he worth 3x Wilder and AJ being there?
Fury and Usyk deserve more than Wilder and AJ .. but I not seeing how Fury is worth almost double Usyk.

Usyk was (apparently) willing to fight Fury for 30% in the first fight with percentages reversed when he beat Fury, so whilst happy to take a risk, ultimately seen himself earning equal amounts as Fury. It will be interesting to see if he is happy taking half the amount.

The percentages for previous proposed fights were percentages of way less money. The Saudi December money makes it all look small by comparison.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Haha! Fury is a joke.

This was 10 years ago.



He dissed Haye for fighting Chisora, claiming he beat him when he was a virgin and Haye beat him as a journeyman..

Yet 10 years later, Fury fought him as well..

[tonyevs]

Was it the uncastrated boar meat that affected his voice?

[emallini]

Some people have really turned on Fury huh

[joshj909]

So that's Zhang, Ruiz and Joyce off the cards. Parker has a fight scheduled. So do Anderson, Kossobutskiy and Makhmudov. That leaves us with the following ranked by the WBC:
- Joshua (it's just not going to happen)
- Sanchez (Has said they're looking at Arreola plus nobody in the UK knows him).
- Whyte (Surely not another rematch)
- Bakole
- Wallin (Surely not another rematch)
- Kabayel
- Ortiz
- Ajagba
- Hrgovic (Matchroom plus guaranteed shot already so possible but unlikely)

So Sanchez, Bakole, Kabayel, Ortiz and Ajagba. Sanchez is very unknown. Bakole biggest name in the UK? Ortiz the biggest name overall? Ajagba is Top Rank and Kabayel is the easiest opponent.

[Phenomenal-Nutrition]

So that's Zhang, Ruiz and Joyce off the cards. Parker has a fight scheduled. So do Anderson, Kossobutskiy and Makhmudov. That leaves us with the following ranked by the WBC:
- Joshua (it's just not going to happen)
- Sanchez (Has said they're looking at Arreola plus nobody in the UK knows him).
- Whyte (Surely not another rematch)
- Bakole
- Wallin (Surely not another rematch)
- Kabayel
- Ortiz
- Ajagba
- Hrgovic (Matchroom plus guaranteed shot already so possible but unlikely)

So Sanchez, Bakole, Kabayel, Ortiz and Ajagba. Sanchez is very unknown. Bakole biggest name in the UK? Ortiz the biggest name overall? Ajagba is Top Rank and Kabayel is the easiest opponent.

I saw Fury's press conference in Spain. HE spent a good while talking about WWE, so it's probably that. I guess we should have believed him when he told us he was retiring last summer

[tonyevs]

Hrgovic likely to outpoint this version of Fury ..

Bakole just too lively and dangerous..

WWE it is

[Ruthless-RKO]

We’ve been here before..

Why would Ruiz price himself out?

What does he want to be paid?

He got $7m or there bouts for the first AJ,

I take it he’s been on nowhere near that since he lost the rematch.

It’s a voluntary Ruiz. Take it.

How much is he gonna expect against Wilder?

[cormack]

So that's Zhang, Ruiz and Joyce off the cards. Parker has a fight scheduled. So do Anderson, Kossobutskiy and Makhmudov. That leaves us with the following ranked by the WBC:
- Joshua (it's just not going to happen)
- Sanchez (Has said they're looking at Arreola plus nobody in the UK knows him).
- Whyte (Surely not another rematch)
- Bakole
- Wallin (Surely not another rematch)
- Kabayel
- Ortiz
- Ajagba
- Hrgovic (Matchroom plus guaranteed shot already so possible but unlikely)

So Sanchez, Bakole, Kabayel, Ortiz and Ajagba. Sanchez is very unknown. Bakole biggest name in the UK? Ortiz the biggest name overall? Ajagba is Top Rank and Kabayel is the easiest opponent.

fwank bullshittin again making excuses for furys pathetic behaviour

[emallini]

David Haye is the only viable option.

[Blueprint]

Charr?

[SteveO]

I expect Ruiz wanted more than 2% of the purse

[Nightmare Roy]

I expect Ruiz wanted more than 2% of the purse

Greedy fcuker if Usyk is only worth 30% with 3 belts I think 2% is fair

[si7dog7]

Ya dosser
Ya sh!thouse!
I’m fighting man

No man from no woman etc etc

Zzz zzz zxx

[The Gratest]

[coneye]

All the noise is about December, cubic dollars and Fury-Usyk and Joshua-Wilder. If true, I don't expect they will be too busy until then. Not when a banana skin fight might jeopardize the riches.

So it looks like the heavyweight scene is going to lay dormant for 6 months , DISGRACEFUL , Only hope in dec the Saudis see things different and then say you guys are not even active and too a certain extent relevent so , its now a quarter of the money , take it or leave it , Also we need the relevent authorties to issue , and demand belt defences or strip them , starting with FURY

The Saudi promoter's biggest concern is one of the four will lose before December.

Well really its obvious , Wilder was / is never what he was cracked up to be , AJ well he's on a downward spiral , so them two really would be silly to take a fight and risk losing the huge money invvolved , and who can blame them .

Usyk well he's got manadtorys and realisticly not likely too lose ,, Fury well he's got a belt and may need to fight , and he could lose , because really he's ducked everyone decent so we still don't really know how good he is , he's been known to have a shocker and beating Chisora and Whyte was'nt excatly setting the world on fire .

Think the biggest problem they have is actually relying on Fury to take it at all, he's likely to double the amount agreed on 4 weeks out , problem with Fury is he is very greedy , but just has likely to knock back huge amounts stating he does'nt need it , because really he does'nt he may live a lvish lifestyle compared to us with a ferreari , and nice holidays , but realisticly he's got more than he will ever spend , , would imagine he still knocked his cousins down on the price for his tarmac

[Redback Rasta]

So it looks like the heavyweight scene is going to lay dormant for 6 months , DISGRACEFUL , Only hope in dec the Saudis see things different and then say you guys are not even active and too a certain extent relevent so , its now a quarter of the money , take it or leave it , Also we need the relevent authorties to issue , and demand belt defences or strip them , starting with FURY

The Saudi promoter's biggest concern is one of the four will lose before December.

Well really its obvious , Wilder was / is never what he was cracked up to be , AJ well he's on a downward spiral , so them two really would be silly to take a fight and risk losing the huge money invvolved , and who can blame them .

Usyk well he's got manadtorys and realisticly not likely too lose ,, Fury well he's got a belt and may need to fight , and he could lose , because really he's ducked everyone decent so we still don't really know how good he is , he's been known to have a shocker and beating Chisora and Whyte was'nt excatly setting the world on fire .

Think the biggest problem they have is actually relying on Fury to take it at all, he's likely to double the amount agreed on 4 weeks out , problem with Fury is he is very greedy , but just has likely to knock back huge amounts stating he does'nt need it , because really he does'nt he may live a lvish lifestyle compared to us with a ferreari , and nice holidays , but realisticly he's got more than he will ever spend , , would imagine he still knocked his cousins down on the price for his tarmac

For Wilder and Joshua this Saudi thing is money from heaven because neither has much on the horizon and the loser will probably have nowhere to go afterwards but will leave with a very handy cash out. Fury and Usyk by contrast are at the top of their games, have the titles and have options, but the Saudi money - particularly what they might earn from it - will be life changing.

[coneye]

The Saudi promoter's biggest concern is one of the four will lose before December.

Well really its obvious , Wilder was / is never what he was cracked up to be , AJ well he's on a downward spiral , so them two really would be silly to take a fight and risk losing the huge money invvolved , and who can blame them .

Usyk well he's got manadtorys and realisticly not likely too lose ,, Fury well he's got a belt and may need to fight , and he could lose , because really he's ducked everyone decent so we still don't really know how good he is , he's been known to have a shocker and beating Chisora and Whyte was'nt excatly setting the world on fire .

Think the biggest problem they have is actually relying on Fury to take it at all, he's likely to double the amount agreed on 4 weeks out , problem with Fury is he is very greedy , but just has likely to knock back huge amounts stating he does'nt need it , because really he does'nt he may live a lvish lifestyle compared to us with a ferreari , and nice holidays , but realisticly he's got more than he will ever spend , , would imagine he still knocked his cousins down on the price for his tarmac

For Wilder and Joshua this Saudi thing is money from heaven because neither has much on the horizon and the loser will probably have nowhere to go afterwards but will leave with a very handy cash out. Fury and Usyk by contrast are at the top of their games, have the titles and have options, but the Saudi money - particularly what they might earn from it - will be life changing.

Thats my point regards Fury that colosol amount would'nt be life changing for him , he already has enough to be life changing , but whats he done ,, he bought a bigger house in morcombe , probably gonna send his kids to private school , then again maybee not , bought a couple of expensive cars , goes on holiday couple times a year . Thingi is he still mixes with the same people , and i can't see him moving to monte carlo , beverly hills with a private jet , Naaw its not in his makeup , Only thing another 50 million would do for him , is keep the taxman happy , and ensure theres something left for his grandkids has well has his kids

[Redback Rasta]

Well really its obvious , Wilder was / is never what he was cracked up to be , AJ well he's on a downward spiral , so them two really would be silly to take a fight and risk losing the huge money invvolved , and who can blame them .

Usyk well he's got manadtorys and realisticly not likely too lose ,, Fury well he's got a belt and may need to fight , and he could lose , because really he's ducked everyone decent so we still don't really know how good he is , he's been known to have a shocker and beating Chisora and Whyte was'nt excatly setting the world on fire .

Think the biggest problem they have is actually relying on Fury to take it at all, he's likely to double the amount agreed on 4 weeks out , problem with Fury is he is very greedy , but just has likely to knock back huge amounts stating he does'nt need it , because really he does'nt he may live a lvish lifestyle compared to us with a ferreari , and nice holidays , but realisticly he's got more than he will ever spend , , would imagine he still knocked his cousins down on the price for his tarmac

For Wilder and Joshua this Saudi thing is money from heaven because neither has much on the horizon and the loser will probably have nowhere to go afterwards but will leave with a very handy cash out. Fury and Usyk by contrast are at the top of their games, have the titles and have options, but the Saudi money - particularly what they might earn from it - will be life changing.

Thats my point regards Fury that colosol amount would'nt be life changing for him , he already has enough to be life changing , but whats he done ,, he bought a bigger house in morcombe , probably gonna send his kids to private school , then again maybee not , bought a couple of expensive cars , goes on holiday couple times a year . Thingi is he still mixes with the same people , and i can't see him moving to monte carlo , beverly hills with a private jet , Naaw its not in his makeup , Only thing another 50 million would do for him , is keep the taxman happy , and ensure theres something left for his grandkids has well has his kids

Fury sees the negotiations that take place before fights as a sport in itself. Says so in his book.

[tonyevs]

He may see negotiations as a sport, but he is as competent at it as he'd be at high board diving or synchronised swimming .. he's hasn't got a clue and lacks the physical and cognitive ability to do so.

We know how Fury and fWank work. Its all BS and duping the Fury fans and idiots (typically the same groups).

If he intends fighting in this tournament he will need a warm up for sure because he got nothing from Whytes feeble showing. So he may be fighting in the summer .. but it never was a live opponent.

[mickey1975]

He may see negotiations as a sport, but he is as competent at it as he'd be at high board diving or synchronised swimming .. he's hasn't got a clue and lacks the physical and cognitive ability to do so.

We know how Fury and fWank work. Its all BS and duping the Fury fans and idiots (typically the same groups).

If he intends fighting in this tournament he will need a warm up for sure because he got nothing from Whytes feeble showing. So he may be fighting in the summer .. but it never was a live opponent.

Yet the bloke has you writing an essay on him every morning without fail, presumably before you go to work and usually when you get in!

[The Gratest]

Let the record show that the Defence Lawyer objects to the quantity of damning statements being submitted by the accusing member, and also, the timings of these statements. Can these please be reduced to one a day with submission at 10.45am, just prior to the 11am coffee and scone break?

[tonyevs]

Let the record show that the Defence Lawyer objects to the quantity of damning statements being submitted by the accusing member, and also, the timings of these statements. Can these please be reduced to one a day with submission at 10.45am, just prior to the 11am coffee and scone break?

Duly noted m`lud.

I didn`t realise there was a link between my comments on a boxing forum and proof of Fury`s negotiation skills.
Big thanks to our Mick for enlightening us

[bripez]

When he eventually retires he will look back on a career that was relatively more mediocre than it could have been.

At that point he will likely turn into some hybrid version of his dad and Shannon Briggs - gatecrashing pressers shouting "let's go ya big dosser - be a proper fighting man born of his mother, not some feather duster man"

[992706]

Fury Vs Bakole at Old Trafford in July lets get it on!!!