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BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 04:10 Dev Sahni

@devsahni
Not true.

Fury wants either no rematch clause at all or 50/50 in a rematch in the event Usyk wins. Usyk is demanding that it’s 70/30 in his favour in the event that he wins.

The sort of demand that stops fights happening sadly.

He works for Fwank W (Queensberry Promotions)

TBA wrote: ↑22 Mar 2023, 11:09 Says Tyson wants 50/50 split if loses.

Meanwhile that if rematch takes place in Middle East that each negotiate their split separately.

Seems fair to me tbh.

Usyk agreed on that split v Joshua but won’t for Fury.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 04:48

TBA wrote: ↑22 Mar 2023, 11:09 Says Tyson wants 50/50 split if loses.

Meanwhile that if rematch takes place in Middle East that each negotiate their split separately.

Seems fair to me tbh.

Usyk agreed on that split v Joshua but won’t for Fury.

That was agreed before the first AJ fight when he was a challenger, completely different going into this fight with 3 belts. Even if he did agree, Fury would make other ridiculous demands in order to scupper the fight. He doesn't want to fight Usyk.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 04:10 Dev Sahni

@devsahni
Not true.

Fury wants either no rematch clause at all or 50/50 in a rematch in the event Usyk wins. Usyk is demanding that it’s 70/30 in his favour in the event that he wins.

The sort of demand that stops fights happening sadly.

FFS Usyk has been bent over once.

He’s entitled to the same consideration if he wins - he will be UNDISPUTED!!

All this talk that Usyk can’t earn more anywhere else so should just accept any terms annoys me as well.

Fury can’t earn as much anywhere else either!!

Frostieballs wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 05:04

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 04:10 Dev Sahni

@devsahni
Not true.

Fury wants either no rematch clause at all or 50/50 in a rematch in the event Usyk wins. Usyk is demanding that it’s 70/30 in his favour in the event that he wins.

The sort of demand that stops fights happening sadly.

FFS Usyk has been bent over once.

He’s entitled to the same consideration if he wins - he will be UNDISPUTED!!

All this talk that Usyk can’t earn more anywhere else so should just accept any terms annoys me as well.

Fury can’t earn as much anywhere else either!!

Zero point engaging with Big Doofus. Just a troll. The bottom line is, in boxing credibility terms, Fury is a busted flush.

The only thing Fury will be annoyed about is that he wanted to pull the plug, but he was out manoeuvred by Uysk. He was outmanoeuvred by Uysk all the way through, and would have been in the ring, too. Hence doing everything to stop the fight from happening.

Fury was off living it up in Tenerife for a week at 10 weeks to go.
Then faffing around in Saudi for a few days with 8 weeks to go.
No training camp in place, no trainer in place, no proper sparring partners in place with 6 weeks to go.
His trainer finally arrives but informs all that he's here to train Okolie and his return flight to the US is on the 28th of March.

Yet some (well one person) seemingly still believes Fury was going to fight against Usyk for the unified HW championship on April 29th.

Admittedly, there were no fashion shows involved.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/65037833

Usually like Warren but he's talking crap here. Scared of upsetting Fury.

If Fury is so confident of beating Usyk as he’s told us hundreds of times then surely Usyk wanting 70/30 if he wins won’t be an issue?

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 04:10 Dev Sahni

@devsahni
Not true.

Fury wants either no rematch clause at all or 50/50 in a rematch in the event Usyk wins. Usyk is demanding that it’s 70/30 in his favour in the event that he wins.

The sort of demand that stops fights happening sadly.

Dev Sahni is that far up Warren's arse he's nearly coming out of his head.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 04:48

TBA wrote: ↑22 Mar 2023, 11:09 Says Tyson wants 50/50 split if loses.

Meanwhile that if rematch takes place in Middle East that each negotiate their split separately.

Seems fair to me tbh.

Usyk agreed on that split v Joshua but won’t for Fury.

Usyk had no belts for Joshua. He has 3 now.

ashall2 wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:06

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 04:48

TBA wrote: ↑22 Mar 2023, 11:09 Says Tyson wants 50/50 split if loses.

Meanwhile that if rematch takes place in Middle East that each negotiate their split separately.

Seems fair to me tbh.

Usyk agreed on that split v Joshua but won’t for Fury.

Usyk had no belts for Joshua. He has 3 now.

He had 3 belts going in to his last fight. Joshua had 0.
50/50 split.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 05:04

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 04:10 Dev Sahni

@devsahni
Not true.

Fury wants either no rematch clause at all or 50/50 in a rematch in the event Usyk wins. Usyk is demanding that it’s 70/30 in his favour in the event that he wins.

The sort of demand that stops fights happening sadly.

FFS Usyk has been bent over once.

He’s entitled to the same consideration if he wins - he will be UNDISPUTED!!

All this talk that Usyk can’t earn more anywhere else so should just accept any terms annoys me as well.

Fury can’t earn as much anywhere else either!!

If he’s undisputed why does he need a rematch?

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:10

ashall2 wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:06

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 04:48
Usyk agreed on that split v Joshua but won’t for Fury.

Usyk had no belts for Joshua. He has 3 now.

He had 3 belts going in to his last fight. Joshua had 0.
50/50 split.

Doofy, just sit back and relax. Fury doesn't need to worry about the dangerous Uysk anymore. He is free to return to his soft touch schedule.

Uysk is the main man, though. What an operator. He has joined the pantheon of greats: Olympic Gold Medalist, Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion, unified heavyweight champion and ran the rival belt holder out of town. Awesome stuff.

The Gratest wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 05:14
Admittedly, there were no fashion shows involved.

After claiming it was unheard of for a boxer to set a deadline, is it not hypocritical not to mention Usyk’s ridiculous 1% extra per day deadline?

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:28

The Gratest wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 05:14
Admittedly, there were no fashion shows involved.

After claiming it was unheard of for a boxer to set a deadline, is it not hypocritical not to mention Usyk’s ridiculous 1% extra per day deadline?

You love removing parts of posts that you don't like, don't you?
Carry on crying.

Usyk's wife firing off shots now.

ashall2 wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:04 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/65037833

Usually like Warren but he's talking crap here. Scared of upsetting Fury.

If Fury is so confident of beating Usyk as he’s told us hundreds of times then surely Usyk wanting 70/30 if he wins won’t be an issue?

Embarrassing isn't it, like chemical Ali,

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:10

ashall2 wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:06

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 04:48
Usyk agreed on that split v Joshua but won’t for Fury.

Usyk had no belts for Joshua. He has 3 now.

He had 3 belts going in to his last fight. Joshua had 0.
50/50 split.

Because it was signed when Usyk had no belts, is that too hard to understand?

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:28

The Gratest wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 05:14
Admittedly, there were no fashion shows involved.

After claiming it was unheard of for a boxer to set a deadline, is it not hypocritical not to mention Usyk’s ridiculous 1% extra per day deadline?

Doofy, it's actually quite delicious watching you trying to defend the indefensible

big lennox wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:15

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:10

ashall2 wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:06

Usyk had no belts for Joshua. He has 3 now.

He had 3 belts going in to his last fight. Joshua had 0.
50/50 split.

Doofy, just sit back and relax. Fury doesn't need to worry about the dangerous Uysk anymore. He is free to return to his soft touch schedule.

Uysk is the main man, though. What an operator. He has joined the pantheon of greats: Olympic Gold Medalist, Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion, unified heavyweight champion and ran the rival belt holder out of town. Awesome stuff.

He turned down the Fury fight in December and now he has walked away because he won’t get enough money for a rematch that he claims he doesn’t want. “Awesome stuff”.

The Gratest wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:46 Usyk's wife firing off shots now.

the gypsy queen

Fury's career is seemingly more about pullouts and postponements / never on than actually fighting.

David Price
David Haye (granted not his fault at all).
Wlad Klischko 2.
Anthony Joshua (first "agreed" after Wilder 2).
Anthony Joshua (post Dillian Whyte fight).
Usyk.

Pretty certain there have been other delays also (wasn't Wilder 2 supposed to happen earlier). And these are fights in which there was serious negotiations - let alone the others that were just bullshit (e.g. the big Wilder call out after he beat Klitschko).

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 07:13

big lennox wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:15

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:10
He had 3 belts going in to his last fight. Joshua had 0.
50/50 split.

Doofy, just sit back and relax. Fury doesn't need to worry about the dangerous Uysk anymore. He is free to return to his soft touch schedule.

Uysk is the main man, though. What an operator. He has joined the pantheon of greats: Olympic Gold Medalist, Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion, unified heavyweight champion and ran the rival belt holder out of town. Awesome stuff.

He turned down the Fury fight in December and now he has walked away because he won’t get enough money for a rematch that he claims he doesn’t want. “Awesome stuff”.

Usyk only turned the fight down in December as he had injuries. In terms of the rematch clause I don’t see why any challenger deserves a 50% share when they’ve lost the belts and the winner is the undisputed champ. Especially after only getting 30% in the first fight. I can see why Usyks team aren’t happy with that and probably feel like they’ve conceded enough as it is.

Controversial wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 08:37

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 07:13

big lennox wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 06:15

Doofy, just sit back and relax. Fury doesn't need to worry about the dangerous Uysk anymore. He is free to return to his soft touch schedule.

Uysk is the main man, though. What an operator. He has joined the pantheon of greats: Olympic Gold Medalist, Undisputed Cruiserweight Champion, unified heavyweight champion and ran the rival belt holder out of town. Awesome stuff.

He turned down the Fury fight in December and now he has walked away because he won’t get enough money for a rematch that he claims he doesn’t want. “Awesome stuff”.

Usyk only turned the fight down in December as he had injuries. In terms of the rematch clause I don’t see why any challenger deserves a 50% share when they’ve lost the belts and the winner is the undisputed champ. Especially after only getting 30% in the first fight. I can see why Usyks team aren’t happy with that and probably feel like they’ve conceded enough as it is.

But he said he only wanted the WBC belt and didn’t want a rematch, so why walk away about a rematch clause?
He was happy to face Gassiev without a rematch clause. Besides him now being in his 37th year what has changed?

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 08:52

Controversial wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 08:37

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 07:13
He turned down the Fury fight in December and now he has walked away because he won’t get enough money for a rematch that he claims he doesn’t want. “Awesome stuff”.

Usyk only turned the fight down in December as he had injuries. In terms of the rematch clause I don’t see why any challenger deserves a 50% share when they’ve lost the belts and the winner is the undisputed champ. Especially after only getting 30% in the first fight. I can see why Usyks team aren’t happy with that and probably feel like they’ve conceded enough as it is.

But he said he only wanted the WBC belt and didn’t want a rematch, so why walk away about a rematch clause?
He was happy to face Gassiev without a rematch clause. Besides him now being in his 37th year what has changed?

The Gassiev fight was the final of the WBSS so he would have signed up to the tournament and not negotiated separate commercial deals for each fight hence why there weren’t any immediate rematches from it.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 08:52

Controversial wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 08:37

BigDoofus wrote: ↑23 Mar 2023, 07:13
He turned down the Fury fight in December and now he has walked away because he won’t get enough money for a rematch that he claims he doesn’t want. “Awesome stuff”.

Usyk only turned the fight down in December as he had injuries. In terms of the rematch clause I don’t see why any challenger deserves a 50% share when they’ve lost the belts and the winner is the undisputed champ. Especially after only getting 30% in the first fight. I can see why Usyks team aren’t happy with that and probably feel like they’ve conceded enough as it is.

But he said he only wanted the WBC belt and didn’t want a rematch, so why walk away about a rematch clause?
He was happy to face Gassiev without a rematch clause. Besides him now being in his 37th year what has changed?

He agreed to Fury’s demand of no rematch clause. FW said yesterday he talked Fury into having it in the contract but they couldn’t agree on the split. Fighting Gassiev is a bit different to fighting for the undisputed HW title. I’m not sure if Usyk is now demanding a rematch but if it’s on the table then surely if he wins the first fight he deserves more than an even split of the purse, wouldn't you want more if you were him after only getting 30% first time around?