Floyd Mayweather lashes out after being ranked behind Sugar Ray Leonard in list of best welterweights

[IKSRTFO]

Manny knows he rates below Floyd.

The thing is, Manny doesn't really care.

Floyd would probably get mad if you rate Sugar Ray Robinson over him. "You mean the Sugar Ray with 19 losses?"

So? Floyd should think he's the goat.

That's not the problem, really. Roy Jones would say he's the greatest. Ali thought he was the greatest. Neither of them cry like a woman when someone gets rated above them. You can tell it affects him and he gets butthurt because he starts stuttering to get the words out.

"you You You mean Leonard who l l lost to a lightweight."

[gilgamesh]

Duran wasn't a lightweight when he fought Leonard though. He was 2 years and 8 fights at welterweight. He had more fights at welterweight than Maidana did when he fought Floyd. So was Maidana, a fringe contender who gave Floyd all he could handle, a blown up lightweight?

Maidana wasn't a fringe contender. He was a contender.

A contender with less fights at welterweight than Duran had.

Maybe so, but he was a bona fide Top 10 contender.

[gilgamesh]

Now it wasn't with me so I don't really care how it gets resolved or IF it gets resolved, but I see EO went on yet another one of his long tirades trying to prove something.

EO. Try getting a girl sometimes buddy. You clearly have entirely too much time on your hands.

[IKSRTFO]

Maidana wasn't a fringe contender. He was a contender.

A contender with less fights at welterweight than Duran had.

Maybe so, but he was a bona fide Top 10 contender.

Duran was a top 3 P4P and the #1 contender when he fought Leonard.

[gilgamesh]

A contender with less fights at welterweight than Duran had.

Maybe so, but he was a bona fide Top 10 contender.

Duran was a top 3 P4P and the #1 contender when he fought Leonard.

Ok.

Did I ever say he wasn't?

What the f*ck are you getting into a pissing contest about Duran and Maidana about?

[Onetimeonly]

The thing is, Manny doesn't really care.

Floyd would probably get mad if you rate Sugar Ray Robinson over him. "You mean the Sugar Ray with 19 losses?"

So? Floyd should think he's the goat.

That's not the problem, really. Roy Jones would say he's the greatest. Ali thought he was the greatest. Neither of them cry like a woman when someone gets rated above them. You can tell it affects him and he gets butthurt because he starts stuttering to get the words out.

"you You You mean Leonard who l l lost to a lightweight."

You're crying like a woman about Floyd caring where he rates. That's much worse.

PS. Manny cares

[IKSRTFO]

So? Floyd should think he's the goat.

That's not the problem, really. Roy Jones would say he's the greatest. Ali thought he was the greatest. Neither of them cry like a woman when someone gets rated above them. You can tell it affects him and he gets butthurt because he starts stuttering to get the words out.

"you You You mean Leonard who l l lost to a lightweight."

You're crying like a woman about Floyd caring where he rates. That's much worse.

PS. Manny cares

You You You talking about the same Floyd Mayweather that retired in 2008 in the best welterwelght devision since he's been there? Th Th That Floyd Mayweather?

[Onetimeonly]

That's not the problem, really. Roy Jones would say he's the greatest. Ali thought he was the greatest. Neither of them cry like a woman when someone gets rated above them. You can tell it affects him and he gets butthurt because he starts stuttering to get the words out.

"you You You mean Leonard who l l lost to a lightweight."

You're crying like a woman about Floyd caring where he rates. That's much worse.

PS. Manny cares

You You You talking about the same Floyd Mayweather that retired in 2008 in the best welterwelght devision since he's been there? Th Th That Floyd Mayweather?

You need to try and breathe. It's over, he's not going to lose and he dominated your boy. For God's sake move on.

[IKSRTFO]

You're crying like a woman about Floyd caring where he rates. That's much worse.

PS. Manny cares

You You You talking about the same Floyd Mayweather that retired in 2008 in the best welterwelght devision since he's been there? Th Th That Floyd Mayweather?

You need to try and breathe. It's over, he's not going to lose and he dominated your boy. For God's sake move on.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

Mayweather and Pacquiao’s handlers had agreed the financial terms, the venue and the date of the bout.

The only stumbling block was Pacquiao’s refusal to undergo drug testing.

There’s a YouTube video of Manny being interviewed and confirming his refusal to agree to the terms demanding he had to undergo PED testing.

The $40m purse agreed upon during 2010 definitely wasn’t a lowball offer.

Instead of making up fictional excuses, do your research.

- Your pretentious boxing expert facade has developed so many cracks in it that you no longer know which one to do your daily squat that informs forms your current soiled mess.

The purse terms were quickly hammered out in 2010 with Floydsy reserving the date and venue that fit in with Manny's political schedule. It was a 50/50 split with a record setting purse guarantee much like Ali/Frazier I and Ali/Foreman were. Fight fans everywhere were estatic over this first ever Ring P4P shootout, but then...

At the witching hour Floydsy inserts his infamous non standard "Olympic drug testing" demand that Floydsy never once adhered to in his boxing or promotional life, actually becoming a notorious drug cheats in both endeavors.

They entered into last minute offers as Floydsy went down and Manny went up until they were down to the final blood testing date.

Manny has obviously met every drug testing requirement in his career with nary a single failed test, whisper of a failed test, or refusal of a test.

So time for you to get out your Sharpie Permanent Marker to draw a circle around your primary offending crack so you can chose the correct one to squat to that will save you your current state of embarrassing circumstances.

And remember, 6 yrs later Floydsy refused to sign drug testing penalty contract of a paltry $5k in a fight netting him over $200 mil that aptly earned him his Backdated TUE moniker when not referring to his baby mama beater days, but hey ho, no biggie in EnFrightenedOne world, right?

Yeah

There was nothing last-minute about the March 12th 2010 fight-date that GBP & Top Rank had agreed to, because the terms were negotiated and everything agreed in 2009, except for the PED testing.

I’ve provided interview transcripts proving Mayweather insisted on Olympic style drug testing administered by USADA that adhered to the WADA code.

There was nothing non-standard about it.

Manny didn’t want any blood based testing.

He rejected a (then) career best payday to face Floyd Mayweather Jr. because he didn’t want to be exposed as a drug cheat.

Manny already held the WBO world welterweight title at this point in time, which was a belt he captured from Miguel Cotto. So he wasn’t making a jump in weight class.

And after ducking Floyd Mayweather Jr., he performed a title defence against Joshua Clottey instead.

I’ve already provided a YouTube video of Manny confirming this and an ESPN article quoting the words of GBP’s Richard Schaefer and Top Rank’s Bob Arum and Todd Duboef.

Stop pretending to rewrite history and do your research.

Manny ducked Floyd in 2010.

It happened.

It is categorically impossible for any human being to disprove this claim.

Time machine’s don’t exist.

No one can go back in time to change the real-world events I’ve accurately described.

- All that inhaling of fragrance at the men's stalls be givin' you brain damage. Or you've completed the transition to congenital liar. The diagnosis is still pending, but it ain't no secret why you don't like Manny and it has nothing to do with boxing.

Out of context boxing interviews and quotations years later always laughable.

The 12th is a Friday, never a big fight day. The 13th rings clear as church bells to me all these years later because I was there in the moment of the biggest fight in history to be made as well as all the other details as mentioned. Manny made Floyd's date, not Floyd, because your Joy Boy knew he'd be shamed forever in the PPV competition.

Yup, too scared even glove it up at his reserved MGM venue on his reserved day!

Floyd chose non standard drug testing because someone close to him put into his dumbfounded existence that they could demand something no pro sport has ever done before or since save maybe pro track and field. It ain't Olympic drug testing announced 3 months prior to the fight that Floyd late in his TBA career reduced down to 4 weeks. It ain't Olympic drug testing  when the testing parameters are negotiated up and down. Olympic athletes have no such luxuries, but of course what you know about drug testing is shoehorned somewhere within that shrinking nanogram IQ of yours.

I sometimes disagree with Boxrec synopsis of events and fights, but they nailed the Jello of Pink Floyd to the wall in this example.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Floy ... y_Pacquiao

Mayweather and Pacquiao were originally expected to fight in 2010. On December 4, 2009, ESPN.com reported: "Manny Pacquiao likely will fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. on March 13. . . . If the fight is agreed upon, there likely would be a Jan. 11 news conference in New York to announce it. The bout could be the richest ever, assuming pay-per-view projections are accurate. . . . Representatives of the Superdome in New Orleans and the new Cowboys Stadium in Dallas have expressed interest in hosting the fight, as has the MGM Grand hotel-casino in Las Vegas." A contract sent on December 11, 2009, by Golden Boy Promotions on behalf of Mayweather to Top Rank on behalf of Pacquiao proposed a 50-50 financial split between the sides for a fight that would have been held March 13, 2010. The eight-page agreement was so detailed that it indicated which of the two fighters would step onto the scale first at the weigh-in (Pacquiao), who would walk to the ring first (Pacquiao), who would be introduced first (Mayweather), and who had first choice of the locker room (Mayweather). It detailed that the bout would have been on HBO Pay-Per-View at a cost of $59.95. Billing was to be "Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, presented by Top Rank, Golden Boy Promotions, Mayweather Promotions and M-P Promotions in association with [approved sponsors and the site]." Pacquiao's side declined the contract offer because Pacquiao objected to Mayweather's demand for drug testing. Mayweather insisted on Olympic-style drug testing "to ensure fair play and sportsmanship by both fighters." Mayweather wanted blood tests up to 14 days before the fight, but Pacquiao would not agree to testing within 24 days of the bout. Pacquaio cited his 2005 loss to Erik Morales as the reason. Two days before he fought Morales, Pacquiao had to have blood drawn because the Nevada State Athletic Commission said he had failed to submit to a mandatory medical examination within the prescribed 30-day period before the fight. As a result, Pacquiao said he went into the fight feeling drained and weak. 3, 4
On December 30, 2009, Pacquiao filed suit in U.S. District Court in Nevada against Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions executives Oscar De La Hoya and Richard Schaefer, alleging that they made false and defamatory statements accusing him of taking performance-enhancing drugs. The case was settled out of court in September 2012. Terms of the agreement were confidential. In a statement released on September 25 through the mediator in the case, the Mayweathers said they "wish to make it clear that they never intended to claim that Manny Pacquiao has used or is using any performance-enhancing drugs, nor are they aware of any evidence that Manny Pacquiao has used performance-enhancing drugs." 5, 6

Oh the shame of the shameless

[Onetimeonly]

Lmao, the two lamest insomnia solving novel whiners in an epic battle of estrogen. The pillows are bound to fly!

[gilgamesh]

Yeah I don't know who's winning that argument, but I know who's losing it. Anyone who reads it

[Duran1970]

Funny that you think everything that comes out of promoters mouths is gospel..

So you didn’t read the interview transcripts or watch the YouTube videos I provided?

Manny ADMITTED to not wanted to be tested! It’s on video.

Even Manny’s OWN promoters ADMITTED it.

And I provided proof of ALL my claims.

It happened! No conspiracy theories.

Pacquiao ducked Mayweather in 2010.

If you think I’m lying, perform some research and provide evidence to refute my claims.

I’ll be waiting an eternity for your counter argument, because you’ll definitely be unable to disprove anything I’ve claimed.

Like when I schooled you on Pryor/Leonard?

[Enlightened-One]

- Your pretentious boxing expert facade has developed so many cracks in it that you no longer know which one to do your daily squat that informs forms your current soiled mess.

The purse terms were quickly hammered out in 2010 with Floydsy reserving the date and venue that fit in with Manny's political schedule. It was a 50/50 split with a record setting purse guarantee much like Ali/Frazier I and Ali/Foreman were. Fight fans everywhere were estatic over this first ever Ring P4P shootout, but then...

At the witching hour Floydsy inserts his infamous non standard "Olympic drug testing" demand that Floydsy never once adhered to in his boxing or promotional life, actually becoming a notorious drug cheats in both endeavors.

They entered into last minute offers as Floydsy went down and Manny went up until they were down to the final blood testing date.

Manny has obviously met every drug testing requirement in his career with nary a single failed test, whisper of a failed test, or refusal of a test.

So time for you to get out your Sharpie Permanent Marker to draw a circle around your primary offending crack so you can chose the correct one to squat to that will save you your current state of embarrassing circumstances.

And remember, 6 yrs later Floydsy refused to sign drug testing penalty contract of a paltry $5k in a fight netting him over $200 mil that aptly earned him his Backdated TUE moniker when not referring to his baby mama beater days, but hey ho, no biggie in EnFrightenedOne world, right?

Yeah

There was nothing last-minute about the March 12th 2010 fight-date that GBP & Top Rank had agreed to, because the terms were negotiated and everything agreed in 2009, except for the PED testing.

I’ve provided interview transcripts proving Mayweather insisted on Olympic style drug testing administered by USADA that adhered to the WADA code.

There was nothing non-standard about it.

Manny didn’t want any blood based testing.

He rejected a (then) career best payday to face Floyd Mayweather Jr. because he didn’t want to be exposed as a drug cheat.

Manny already held the WBO world welterweight title at this point in time, which was a belt he captured from Miguel Cotto. So he wasn’t making a jump in weight class.

And after ducking Floyd Mayweather Jr., he performed a title defence against Joshua Clottey instead.

I’ve already provided a YouTube video of Manny confirming this and an ESPN article quoting the words of GBP’s Richard Schaefer and Top Rank’s Bob Arum and Todd Duboef.

Stop pretending to rewrite history and do your research.

Manny ducked Floyd in 2010.

It happened.

It is categorically impossible for any human being to disprove this claim.

Time machine’s don’t exist.

No one can go back in time to change the real-world events I’ve accurately described.

- All that inhaling of fragrance at the men's stalls be givin' you brain damage. Or you've completed the transition to congenital liar. The diagnosis is still pending, but it ain't no secret why you don't like Manny and it has nothing to do with boxing.

Out of context boxing interviews and quotations years later always laughable.

The 12th is a Friday, never a big fight day. The 13th rings clear as church bells to me all these years later because I was there in the moment of the biggest fight in history to be made as well as all the other details as mentioned. Manny made Floyd's date, not Floyd, because your Joy Boy knew he'd be shamed forever in the PPV competition.

Yup, too scared even glove it up at his reserved MGM venue on his reserved day!

Floyd chose non standard drug testing because someone close to him put into his dumbfounded existence that they could demand something no pro sport has ever done before or since save maybe pro track and field. It ain't Olympic drug testing announced 3 months prior to the fight that Floyd late in his TBA career reduced down to 4 weeks. It ain't Olympic drug testing  when the testing parameters are negotiated up and down. Olympic athletes have no such luxuries, but of course what you know about drug testing is shoehorned somewhere within that shrinking nanogram IQ of yours.

I sometimes disagree with Boxrec synopsis of events and fights, but they nailed the Jello of Pink Floyd to the wall in this example.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Floy ... y_Pacquiao

Mayweather and Pacquiao were originally expected to fight in 2010. On December 4, 2009, ESPN.com reported: "Manny Pacquiao likely will fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. on March 13. . . . If the fight is agreed upon, there likely would be a Jan. 11 news conference in New York to announce it. The bout could be the richest ever, assuming pay-per-view projections are accurate. . . . Representatives of the Superdome in New Orleans and the new Cowboys Stadium in Dallas have expressed interest in hosting the fight, as has the MGM Grand hotel-casino in Las Vegas." A contract sent on December 11, 2009, by Golden Boy Promotions on behalf of Mayweather to Top Rank on behalf of Pacquiao proposed a 50-50 financial split between the sides for a fight that would have been held March 13, 2010. The eight-page agreement was so detailed that it indicated which of the two fighters would step onto the scale first at the weigh-in (Pacquiao), who would walk to the ring first (Pacquiao), who would be introduced first (Mayweather), and who had first choice of the locker room (Mayweather). It detailed that the bout would have been on HBO Pay-Per-View at a cost of $59.95. Billing was to be "Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, presented by Top Rank, Golden Boy Promotions, Mayweather Promotions and M-P Promotions in association with [approved sponsors and the site]." Pacquiao's side declined the contract offer because Pacquiao objected to Mayweather's demand for drug testing. Mayweather insisted on Olympic-style drug testing "to ensure fair play and sportsmanship by both fighters." Mayweather wanted blood tests up to 14 days before the fight, but Pacquiao would not agree to testing within 24 days of the bout. Pacquaio cited his 2005 loss to Erik Morales as the reason. Two days before he fought Morales, Pacquiao had to have blood drawn because the Nevada State Athletic Commission said he had failed to submit to a mandatory medical examination within the prescribed 30-day period before the fight. As a result, Pacquiao said he went into the fight feeling drained and weak. 3, 4

Oh the shame of the shameless

That's a lot of words to confirm what I already knew. Floyd demanded Olympic style drug testing administered by USADA that adhered to the WADA code. This was a standard protocol used in many sports.

But Manny didn't want to be tested.

So Pacquiao walked away from a career-high payday, simply because he didn't want to be tested. All the other terms of the fight were agreed.

I don't care whether drug testing was commonplace in the sport of boxing or not in 2009 - it was usual for other sports to perform such tests. And Floyd and his opponents continued to be voluntarily tested by USADA from that point in time onwards (i.e from the Mosley bout), before VADA even existed.

And Team Pacquiao were made aware from day one of the negotiations that Floyd Mayweather Jr. wanted it. And I provided proof of this.

If Manny was a clean athelete, then why would he refuse to be tested? What did he have to hide?

He was the only person from his own team to object to Floyd's drug testing request.

I even provided a video of Freddie Roach admitting that Team Pacquiao was to blame for the March 2010 fight not happening.

[oogiebe]

BoxRec needs to limit the number of characters in posts.

[margaret thatcher]

lololol as if clown car USADA prevents any pro boxer from fighting, manny shoulda just gone wiith that no matter how many needles he was sticking in himself

#suckacock4usada

#fuch4usasa

[Enlightened-One]

So you're finally admitting that everything you've written is not actual fact then. Jeeez, that took a while but we eventually got there.

No!

I am refusing to defend a claim that I never made.

I will not defend a stance I never conveyed.

You can't dream something up and then expect me to own it!

You cannot prove an accusation that never occurred in reality, since you can't quote my words. Hence the reason why you can't prove it.

That being said, I am claiming that it's categorically impossible for any human being to refute my claim that Manny Pacquiao ducked Floyd Mayweather Jr. in 2010.

[oogiebe]

So you're finally admitting that everything you've written is not actual fact then. Jeeez, that took a while but we eventually got there.

No!

I am refusing to defend a claim that I never made.

I will not defend a stance I never conveyed.

You can't dream something up and then expect me to own it!

You cannot prove an accusation that never occurred in reality, since you can't quote my words. Hence the reason why you can't prove it.

That being said, I am claiming that it's categorically impossible for any human being to refute my claim that Manny Pacquiao ducked Floyd Mayweather Jr. in 2010.

Aren't you the same guy who said that Paq was a dirty drug cheat?

[oogiebe]

Pacquiao ducked Mayweather Jr. in 2010.

It happened. There’s nothing anybody can do about it.

Yet Pactards fanboys keep insisting Floyd kept running from Manny, whilst choosing to ignore real world facts no one can dispute.

Are you seriously claiming Pacquiao didn’t duck Mayweather in 2010?

I don't think regardless of what ever proof you have i refused to believe that a guy ducked someone only later to fight them in any case. It defeats the definition of ducking.

Pacquiao ducked Mayweather Jr. during 2010, because he was a dirty drug cheat. He didn’t want to be tested.

He subsequently racked up a massive tax debt.

He needed the money so badly that he didn’t care about suffering defeat, so he changed his mind and took the payday.

Pactards keep pretending Floyd was running scared of Manny and only agreed to fight him after the Filipino became past-his-prime, despite what occurred during 2010 and 2012.

Nobody has a time machine.

Nobody can rewrite the course of history.

Pacquiao ducked Mayweather.

It happened!

Oh! Here it is...

[margaret thatcher]

[oogiebe]

Know what's funny? If he wasn't such a jerkoff, I couldn't of cared less.

[Enlightened-One]

Oh! Here it is...

Nope! You're wrong again!

I was accused of saying the following:

You then threw out a challenge that everything you had posted was correct with no factual errors.

The same person then repeated the same lie, despite his inability to quote my words:

So you're finally admitting that everything you've written is not actual fact then.

No one can quote me issuing such a challenge or making such a claim. It simply didn't happen.

Keep trying to find those words though, kid! You'll be at it a looooong time!

Anyway, isn’t it funny how I have the ability to quote people’s lies, but they can’t prove their own derogatory claims by quoting my words?

That being said, I did claim that no human being can disprove my belief that Manny ducked Floyd during 2010.

I'm still waiting for someone to prove me wrong about this... I guess I'll be waiting a looooong time!

In regards to me believing Pacquiao had consumed banned substances at some point during his career, I wrote the following:

No one can prove Pacquiao’s guilt of using PED’s because he has regularly refused to be tested.

In fact, he even refused to provide his medical records during a lawsuit to prove he hadn’t used PED’s when he sued Mayweather.

He clearly has something to hide, but no one knows what that “something” is.

There’s clearly an undeniable atmosphere of speculation about Manny Pacquiao’s use of PED’s, which is something the Filipino manufactured, due to his regular refusal to be tested, unlike many other fighters.

And I think that people are making false claims about me personally, because they're Pactards that realise it's categorically impossible for any human being to refute my claim that Manny Pacquiao ducked Floyd Mayweather Jr. in 2010.

[lazboy]

Narcissism or Asperger’s? How to Tell the Difference

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/narcis ... ce-1114174

After a quick read as a layman and looking at the table, I'm more siding toward some type of personality disorder (narcissism).

[Enlightened-One]

Narcissism or Asperger’s? How to Tell the Difference

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/narcis ... ce-1114174

After a quick read as a layman and looking at the table, I'm more siding toward some type of personality disorder (narcissism).

If I write something that is factually correct about a fan favourite, such as GGG or Manny Pacquiao, but portrays them in an unfavourable light, their die-hard fans always resort to personal insults or employ red herring debating tactics, to divert attention away from the facts they can’t refute.

If I provide a set of statistics that are similarly impossible for many people to refute, which don’t fit their preferred narrative, then they try to prevent others from seeing them, by burying them beneath a barrage of irrelevant posts.

Another dishonest debating tactic is to employ strawman fallacies, whereby people intentionally misrepresent my stance in order to pretend they’re successfully refuting a claim I never made, simply because it’s far easier to undermine something that is utterly ridiculous than any inconventient real-world easily-verifiable objective truths.

So how would you describe the personality of someone that resorts to lies in the manner described above?

[oogiebe]

Narcissism or Asperger’s? How to Tell the Difference

https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/narcis ... ce-1114174

After a quick read as a layman and looking at the table, I'm more siding toward some type of personality disorder (narcissism).

Yup. Been saying that for quite some time. Sad...poor lad.