Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 06:24
by Oiky
Yeah bellew is very much in deep water here
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 06:52
by ShadrachSimmo
jamamb wrote: ↑07 Nov 2018, 01:11
watching some of bellews fights back, he has 'spotty' stamina.
meaning that he can end a fight with decent energy, but from mid fight on goes through a lot of energy lulls it seems. like he gets tired, goes quiet, then recharges, and repeats. usyk on the other hand after slower early rounds seems to heat up and have pretty much unabating energy
basically, i think, if he doesnt make a dent early, as it goes on hes going to really struggle to keep pace with usyk. its important that he can hurt usyk imo to compensate for usyk probably landing more and having more sustained success.
His last 3 fights have been pretty farcical really. Beat Flores easily, the first Haye fight was seriously dire both men gassed really badly towards the end. The last fight vs Haye again pretty dire and incompetiive.
He won them all by stoppage but his opponents barely hit him back. Its gonna be a tough night.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 08:18
by dbf
I see this fight a bit like Calzaghe Hopkins. Ok different styles, but Tony may be dangerous early on with the Left hook but ultimately the pace is going to do him. He might try some old man tactics like Hopkins did to stall and upset Usyks rhythm but I just can't see Tony keeping up with the pace the Ukranian is going to set.
Tony recently retweeted a tweet from Andre Ward where Ward listed things fighters should do and one was stay in shape all year round, something Bellew doesn't practice himself. That is a factor that will play into this fight I suspect.
Its Usyk on points for me with Tony perhaps having some success with the left hook or straight right early in the fight.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 08:58
by Stuarty
Is it just me or does anyone else have a dreadful feeling that there's gonna be some controversy on Sat? Snidey scorecards, dodgy refereeing, bullshít stoppage? Isn't it fat Terry that's the referee as well
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 09:07
by jamamb
maybe, but remember usyk was just signed by matchroom and prob has more upside time in his career, built up as an aj challenger etc
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 09:28
by Stuarty
jamamb wrote: ↑07 Nov 2018, 09:07
maybe, but remember usyk was just signed by matchroom and prob has more upside time in his career, built up as an aj challenger etc
Yeah true but when big Terry's about there's always the risk of controversy
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 09:33
by smiling assassin
Stuarty wrote: ↑07 Nov 2018, 08:58
Is it just me or does anyone else have a dreadful feeling that there's gonna be some controversy on Sat? Snidey scorecards, dodgy refereeing, bullshít stoppage? Isn't it fat Terry that's the referee as well
I can see the scorecards being way off the mark. I think Usyk will dominate him from first to last bell but thescorecards all reflecting a close fight
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 11:50
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 11:51
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 12:35
by Oiky
Haven't they got some divvy sky box office belt to present ?
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 12:42
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 12:44
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 13:37
by IrishGuy
Any thoughts on undercard? Is riakphore any use? Getting backed off the board in his fight.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 14:03
by Ruthless-RKO
IrishGuy wrote: ↑07 Nov 2018, 13:37
Any thoughts on undercard? Is riakphore any use? Getting backed off the board in his fight.
Just watched his media workout live. Looks good.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 14:07
by Gnome
I'm thinking Usyk wins in round seven. Any idea of the odds?
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Stuarty wrote: ↑07 Nov 2018, 08:58
Is it just me or does anyone else have a dreadful feeling that there's gonna be some controversy on Sat? Snidey scorecards, dodgy refereeing, bullshít stoppage? Isn't it fat Terry that's the referee as well
I can see the scorecards being way off the mark. I think Usyk will dominate him from first to last bell but thescorecards all reflecting a close fight
IMHO Too much Usyk will see no need for judges. Round 8 - 11 stoppage. Last fight at CW for Usyk.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 14:36
by Boxerbeetle
Gnome wrote: ↑07 Nov 2018, 14:07
I'm thinking Usyk wins in round seven. Any idea of the odds?
Can’t see it being that early, personally.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Gnome wrote: ↑07 Nov 2018, 14:07
I'm thinking Usyk wins in round seven. Any idea of the odds?
Can’t see it being that early, personally.
Well, we'll see. Stevenson got him out of there in six, and although Usyk isn't too aggressive I think Bellew will go for it when he gets behind.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 16:09
by tonyevs
Bellew is well out of his depth here; He may be ambitious early on due to his grandiose delusional self-belief ... but give him a round or two to come back down to the real world, and he goes the same way as he did against Stevenson.
Bellew has done fantastically well both financially and professionally to have gotten where he is from his limited talent. Best of luck to him - and hopefully he can have a long and comfortable retirement after this fight.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 16:16
by Oiky
Yeah bellew has made a fantastic career for himself really, considering
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 17:35
by mickey1975
Oiky wrote: ↑07 Nov 2018, 16:16
Yeah bellew has made a fantastic career for himself really, considering
Seriously, this board should really be proud of him. Nobody could have predicted the career he was going to have, not even his Nan.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 18:08
by KiwiRider
Ive just seen the open workouts.
Bellew looking really good, as trim as I've seen him since he was an actual cruiser.
He isn't coming in to cash a paycheck.
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
Posted: 07 Nov 2018, 18:24
by leejonesjnr
KiwiRider wrote: ↑07 Nov 2018, 18:08
He isn't coming in to cash a paycheck.
It’s not really relevant what he INTENDS to do though is it?
Re: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Tony Bellew - 10 November 2018
KiwiRider wrote: ↑07 Nov 2018, 18:08
He isn't coming in to cash a paycheck.
It’s not really relevant what he INTENDS to do though is it?
Well, being on the fence about buying the fight, I guess from my point of view it is encouraging at the least to see Tony in cracking good shape- I was a little concerned he would take the loss and the cash and retire. Frpm the looks of him though, he appears to be taking it seriously. I'm still not convinced I will buy the fight.