Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

Who wins?

Poll ended at 21 Nov 2021, 05:34

Crawford - Decision
40
57%
Crawford - T/KO
15
21%
DRAW
1
1%
Porter - T/KO
5
7%
Porter - Decision
9
13%
 
Total votes: 70

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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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Thanks Ruthie :TU:
You da man.
Now I just have to find out who half those guys are :lol:
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 05:0312 Round IBF Middleweight Title Eliminator
Esquiva Falcao vs. Patrice Volny
Back in May, it was rumoured that GGG was hoping to face Esquiva Falcao in August as a stay-busy ring-rust warm-up bout to prepare for December’s title unification against Ryōta Murata, but apparently DAZN wouldn’t sanction it.

The IBF are sticklers about their champions abiding by their rules, so if Esquiva Falcao (who boasts an obscenely padded resume that is reminiscent of Mark De Mori’s) become GGG’s mandatory challenger, will DAZN force Golovkin to vacate his IBF strap?

I suppose GGG could vacate his IBF title, because he’d still hold the WBA version of the middleweight championship.

By the time he faces Ryōta Murata, GGG would have gone more than twelve months without performing a mandatory defence of his title, which means he’ll have to defend it very soon, because he doesn’t have a valid reason to justify his inactivity.

On a side note, if GGG vacates and Esquiva Falcao beats Patrice Volny, will the Brazilian be elevated to becoming the IBF world middleweight champion or will he have to face another padded resume hype-job (Denis Radovan) for the vacant title?
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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Enlightened-One wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 06:31
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 05:0312 Round IBF Middleweight Title Eliminator
Esquiva Falcao vs. Patrice Volny
On a side note, if GGG vacates and Esquiva Falcao beats Patrice Volny, will the Brazilian be elevated to becoming the IBF world middleweight champion or will he have to face another padded resume hype-job (Denis Radovan) for the vacant title?
It’s an eliminator. He wouldn’t just become champion.

He’d need to fight the next highest ranked opponent for the belt. Unless this was for the interim IBF belt, which it isn’t.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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Terence Crawford is charismatic when it comes to his written social media posts, but he’s as dull as dishwater whenever you put microphones and cameras in front of him.

No wonder Top Rank have been trying to offload him.

Bud is a very good fighter, definitely a first-ballot future Hall-of-Famer, but he’s terrible at self-promotion - listless and boring.

He could even make a glass eye go to sleep!
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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ESPN Press Room

Terence “Bud” Crawford will defend his WBO welterweight world title in a legacy-defining super fight against “Showtime” Shawn Porter this Saturday, November 20 at Michelob ULTRA Arena at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.

Presented by Top Rank and TGB Promotions, Crawford-Porter will be a Top Rank PPV exclusively on ESPN+ in the United States at 9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT. Limited tickets are still available and can be purchased by visiting AXS.com.

Crawford vs. Porter Fight Week Schedule

Thursday, November 18: Crawford vs. Porter Undercard Press Conference

4:30 p.m. ET/1:30 p.m. PT
Streaming on ESPN APP and Top Rank’s YouTube, Twitter & Facebook pages

Friday, November 19: Crawford vs. Porter Official Weigh-In

Undercard Fights (including PPV bouts)
4:15 p.m. ET/1:15 p.m. PT
Live on Top Rank’s YouTube, Twitter & Facebook pages

Main Event
5 p.m. ET/2 p.m. PT
Live on ESPNews and Top Rank’s YouTube, Twitter & Facebook pages

Saturday, November 20: Crawford vs. Porter FIGHT DAY

Early Undercard Fights
6 p.m. ET/3 p.m. PT
Live and exclusively on ESPN APP (no paywall)
* Features rising junior lightweight Karlos Balderas and the professional debut of recent U.S. Olympian Tiger Johnson in a welterweight bout.

Undercard Broadcast
7 p.m. ET/4 p.m. PT
ESPN2 and ESPN+
* Isaac Dogboe-Christopher Diaz (10 rounds, featherweight) & Adam Lopez-Adan Ochoa II (8 rounds, featherweight).

PPV Broadcast
9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT
CLICK HERE for ESPN+ Order Event Page

* PPV broadcast includes Crawford-Porter, a 12-round IBF middleweight title eliminator featuring unbeaten contenders Esquiva “La Pantera” Falcao and Patrice Volny, a 10-round middleweight tilt between rising star Janibek “Qazaq Style” Alimkhanuly and former world champion Hassan N’Dam, and an eight-round lightweight contest between Raymond “Danger” Muratalla and Elias “El Macho” Araujo.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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Weak undercard. They aren't trying anymore. Arum especially, completely out of touch with reality. Even though I really want to see the fight I've convinced myself not to buy it, because it's a rip off. It should be on ESPN on cable tv. I was looking for a venue nearby that was showing it. The nearest two are 26 and 35 miles away. Shows how well they advertised this thing.

Going to the one 35 miles away is a bit tempting because it's a casino and I could drop a few bucks on Porter because he's a live dog. Probably end up trying to catch it for free on YouTube Sunday morning..
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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Tbh I never really rated porter. Top guys should always beat him. Tough guy but if you can't beat him you shouldn't be 1 of the champions. TC should only drop a couple rounds. Would be impressed if he stopped him tho :bag:
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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All the money going to the main event boxers.

Crawford -700
Porter + 450
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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Stats & Stakes

Terence Crawford

Age: 34
Title: WBO welterweight (2018-Present, 4 defenses)
Previous Titles: WBO Lightweight (2014-15, 2 Defenses); Lineal/TBRB/Ring Lightweight (2014-15); WBO Light Welterweight (2015-17, 6 Defenses); Lineal/TBRB/Ring/WBC Jr. welterweight (2016-17, 3 Defenses); WBA Super Lightweight (2017); IBF Jr. Welterweight (2017)
Height: 5’8
Weight: 146 ½ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox/Southpaw
Hails from: Omaha, Nebraska
Record: 37-0, 28 KO
Press Rankings: #2 (TBRB, Ring, ESPN)
Record in Major Title Fights: 15-0, 12 KO
Last Five Opponents: 138-6-2 (.952)

Notable Outcomes, Ring/TBRB Rated Foes: UD12 Ricky Burns; TKO9 Yuriorkis Gamboa; UD12 Ray Beltran; TKO6 Thomas Dulorme; TKO10 Dierry Jean; UD12 Viktor Postol; TKO8 John Molina; RTD10 Felix Diaz; KO3 Julius Indongo; TKO9 Jeff Horn; TKO9 Egidijus Kavaliauskas

Additional Current/Former Titlists Faced: Jose Benavidez TKO12; Amir Khan TKO6; Kell Brook TKO4

vs.

Shawn Porter

Age: 34
Title: None
Previous Titles: IBF welterweight (2013-14, 1 Defense); WBC welterweight (2018-19, 1 Defense)
Height: 5’7
Weight: 146 ½ lbs.
Stance: Orthodox
Hails from: Las Vegas, Nevada
Record: 31-3-1, 17 KO
Press Rankings: #4 (TBRB, Ring, ESPN)
Record in Major Title Fights: 4-3, 1 KO
Last Five Opponents: 122-9-2 (.924)

Notable Outcomes, Ring/TBRB Rated Foes: Devon Alexander UD12; Paul Malignaggi TKO4; Kell Brook L12; Adrien Broner UD12; Keith Thurman L12; Adrian Granados UD12; Danny Garcia UD12; Yordenis Ugas SD12; Errol Spence L12

Additional Current/Former Titlists Faced: Julio Diaz D10, UD10; Andre Berto TKO9
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Judges: Dave Moretti, Max De Luca and Steve Weisfeld
Referee: Celestino Ruiz
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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watsupdoc87 wrote: 18 Nov 2021, 20:34 Tbh I never really rated porter. Top guys should always beat him. Tough guy but if you can't beat him you shouldn't be 1 of the champions. TC should only drop a couple rounds. Would be impressed if he stopped him tho :bag:
Whether or not you rate Porter, he has fought everyone and been competitive in every fight. Obviously, if TCraw does not find a way to defeat him, Bud will no longer be “1 of the champions.”
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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Crawford by 5th round stoppage. Too mean, too sharp, too good. Spences ability to box is a much tougher matchup for Crawford.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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thereverend wrote: 18 Nov 2021, 17:36 Weak undercard. They aren't trying anymore. Arum especially, completely out of touch with reality. Even though I really want to see the fight I've convinced myself not to buy it, because it's a rip off. It should be on ESPN on cable tv. I was looking for a venue nearby that was showing it. The nearest two are 26 and 35 miles away. Shows how well they advertised this thing.

Going to the one 35 miles away is a bit tempting because it's a casino and I could drop a few bucks on Porter because he's a live dog. Probably end up trying to catch it for free on YouTube Sunday morning..
I disagree. I think that it is a decent undercard that will give us a look at some early prospects and wannabe contenders that we don’t get an opportunity to see often.

Some called yesterday’s DAZN undercard 💩. They were proven wrong.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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I'm loathed to actually post this, it's such a tasty tease.
Josh Taylor sizes up Bud at the gym..
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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watsupdoc87 wrote: 18 Nov 2021, 20:34 Tbh I never really rated porter. Top guys should always beat him. Tough guy but if you can't beat him you shouldn't be 1 of the champions. TC should only drop a couple rounds. Would be impressed if he stopped him tho :bag:

I like Porter. He's got almost everything.

Almost, but just that something missing?

Or maybe just that something 'too much'?

It's almost like he forgets he's a talented boxer at times and dives in head first.

Can't do that tonight.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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I slightly favour Crawford, but I’ve received some excessively tempting betting odds compelling me to place a bet on Porter scoring a TKO from round 9 onwards.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 19:15 I slightly favour Crawford, but I’ve received some excessively tempting betting odds compelling me to place a bet on Porter scoring a TKO from round 9 onwards.
Somehow I've heard this story before.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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Tiger with a predictable debut.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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oogiebe wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 19:23
Enlightened-One wrote: 20 Nov 2021, 19:15 I slightly favour Crawford, but I’ve received some excessively tempting betting odds compelling me to place a bet on Porter scoring a TKO from round 9 onwards.
Somehow I've heard this story before.
Yes. And I won some money on the Usyk-Joshua bout.

I also told the forum my plans before executing them.

Porter isn’t just an underdog, he’s a massive underdog.

In my mind, this is a 55-45 type bout where I favour Crawford.

But the betting odds are outrageously in Crawford’s favour.

What are your thoughts? Am I doing something you feel is entirely unreasonable, to the point I deserve to be ridiculed, or can you show empathy with my mindset?
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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Balderas up next.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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Balderas 4th round stoppage. Perhaps a bit too soon.
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Re: Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter | ESPN PPV - November 20, 2021

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To me it's like, we've all seen what it looks like when Shawn Porter fights well but comes up short. More than once. And I think it's very likely this'll be another one of those. Nice job, Porter, you pushed him well in this close but clear, 116-112-ish loss. You're very good but you're not great.
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