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Jesus Christ what a load of predictable shite on the talkSPORT statement, and who was the goon reading it out ? Why they’re giving him airtime you wonder ..

Good to see brain of Britain Ben Davidson singing his praises on Twitter though, god help us.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 12:45 He’s not leaving boxing and it doesn’t look like he’s getting done for any alleged crimes. I’ve read all the stuff that’s out there and spoke to folk who claim to be in the know and it’s actually five feuds all rolled into one lots of scores to be settled and revenge attacks. The Hutch family were as ball deep in crime as anyone else involved. The Byrnes are a major firm themselves. Then there is the Finglas and Drogheda, Mr Big and Mr Flashy stuff all intertwined. It’s some carry over there.

I spent a couple of evenings reading about it the other day and it fairly fried my brain trying to keep up, more names than an old Russian novel

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 12:45 A good mate is signed to MTK he’s just put up a statement on social media saying he’s only had good dealings with DM and thinks he’s good for boxing.

My thoughts are unless there are charges and actual police attention on him then this show will likely be good for him. As in, it will serve his story of being persecuted in the media and give him a platform whereby lots of influential boxing people have publicly backed him.

He’s not leaving boxing and it doesn’t look like he’s getting done for any alleged crimes. I’ve read all the stuff that’s out there and spoke to folk who claim to be in the know and it’s actually five feuds all rolled into one lots of scores to be settled and revenge attacks. The Hutch family were as ball deep in crime as anyone else involved. The Byrnes are a major firm themselves. Then there is the Finglas and Drogheda, Mr Big and Mr Flashy stuff all intertwined. It’s some carry over there.

"Capone apparently reveled in attention, such as the cheers from spectators when he appeared at ball games. He made donations to various charities and was viewed by "many as a "modern-day Robin Hood".[2] However, the Saint Valentine's Day Massacre, in which seven gang rivals were murdered in broad daylight, damaged the public image of Chicago and Capone, leading influential citizens to demand government action and newspapers to dub Capone "Public Enemy No.1".

You can only polish a turd so much

The sad thing is that it's not even far fetched in the slightest to compare Kinahan to fornicating Al Capone that's how bad it is

With Capone it was prohibition, with Kinahan its the drugs

"I am like any other man. All I do is supply a demand." -Al Capone

I would question the Irish authorities here. Christy Kinahan lives a life of luxury in Spain. They've never managed to bring him to account. His sons have never been prosecuted. It does appear the Kinahans have effectively beaten the system or at least are able to outwit Irish law enforcement. Why can't they bring any of this family to justice? I think that's a bit embarassing for the people of Ireland.

Whoever said crime doesn't pay, it seems to have done quite well for some.

GreenLightning wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 13:33

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 12:45 A good mate is signed to MTK he’s just put up a statement on social media saying he’s only had good dealings with DM and thinks he’s good for boxing.

My thoughts are unless there are charges and actual police attention on him then this show will likely be good for him. As in, it will serve his story of being persecuted in the media and give him a platform whereby lots of influential boxing people have publicly backed him.

He’s not leaving boxing and it doesn’t look like he’s getting done for any alleged crimes. I’ve read all the stuff that’s out there and spoke to folk who claim to be in the know and it’s actually five feuds all rolled into one lots of scores to be settled and revenge attacks. The Hutch family were as ball deep in crime as anyone else involved. The Byrnes are a major firm themselves. Then there is the Finglas and Drogheda, Mr Big and Mr Flashy stuff all intertwined. It’s some carry over there.

"Capone apparently reveled in attention, such as the cheers from spectators when he appeared at ball games. He made donations to various charities and was viewed by "many as a "modern-day Robin Hood".[2] However, the Saint Valentine's Day Massacre, in which seven gang rivals were murdered in broad daylight, damaged the public image of Chicago and Capone, leading influential citizens to demand government action and newspapers to dub Capone "Public Enemy No.1".

You can only polish a turd so much

John Gotti had crowds cheering every time he was aquitted. There were protests when he was finally jailed. A lot of people look up to the likes of Kinahan who they see as beating the system. It's a fucked up world sometimes.

Monzon83 wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 13:53 I would question the Irish authorities here. Christy Kinahan lives a life of luxury in Spain. They've never managed to bring him to account. His sons have never been prosecuted. It does appear the Kinahans have effectively beaten the system or at least are able to outwit Irish law enforcement. Why can't they bring any of this family to justice? I think that's a bit embarassing for the people of Ireland.

Whoever said crime doesn't pay, it seems to have done quite well for some.

I would question a lot of things, but I wouldn't question the fact that "DK" (some might refer to him as "Cancer") is a murdering drug lord

These discussions have been going on for years

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 12:45 A good mate is signed to MTK he’s just put up a statement on social media saying he’s only had good dealings with DM and thinks he’s good for boxing.

My thoughts are unless there are charges and actual police attention on him then this show will likely be good for him. As in, it will serve his story of being persecuted in the media and give him a platform whereby lots of influential boxing people have publicly backed him.

He’s not leaving boxing and it doesn’t look like he’s getting done for any alleged crimes. I’ve read all the stuff that’s out there and spoke to folk who claim to be in the know and it’s actually five feuds all rolled into one lots of scores to be settled and revenge attacks. The Hutch family were as ball deep in crime as anyone else involved. The Byrnes are a major firm themselves. Then there is the Finglas and Drogheda, Mr Big and Mr Flashy stuff all intertwined. It’s some carry over there.

I think what separates the Kinahan’s from the rest is that they’ve gone after innocent people who are friends of the Hutch’s as soft targets. Most of the Hutch family that are involved in crime are still alive but it’s mainly the ones who weren’t involved who’ve been killed. Noel Kirwan for example was an old friend of Gerry Hutch who copped it because he was stood with him at Gerry’s brothers funeral who was also supposedly not involved in crime & was targeted due to who he was rather than anything he’d done.

They also shot dead two completely innocent people in cases of mistaken identity. The murder of Trevor O’Neill as he walked down the street in Majorca in front of his Mrs & kids was horrendous & made headlines in Ireland.

If the Hutch’s wanted to they could’ve killed tens of people at the Regency who were friends of Kinahan but they were there for Kinahan’s & Byrne’s so in the end they only killed one of the Byrne brothers.

I don’t think people in general are that bothered if they see gang members taking each other out but when innocent people & family friends get dragged into it & kids lose their dads in cases of mistaken identity he hits a nerve in most people.

Monzon83 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2021, 16:40

Steveh583 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2021, 16:11

Cyclops wrote: ↑08 Feb 2021, 15:57 Peter Fury's take at about 13:00 of this IFL interview:

former drug baron sticks up for drug baron.

I love the way he says i don't like drug dealers. That's a bit like Bill Gates saying well i never really liked computers..

If he's known Daniel for 25 years, before boxing what brought them into contact with each other? I don't imagine they were gym buddies, there's a bit of an age gap. A more inquisitive journalistic mind than Kugan's might have been tempted to enquire about that.

Got the through the old man then aint it? As DK would have only been mid teens at most, maybe even 10 if he’s 35.

Not sure what Peter is trying to achieve by saying that.

BJS is an idiot

does bjs swallow for danny if danny asks him to?

bjs = blow jobs and semen?

DK’s followers are going too far now. They’ve turned Twitter into a shrine for the man. He must have made hundreds of people better boxers, husbands, fathers, men. How has he found the time. He’s always just a phone call away. It must be engaged a lot. Less is more, he’s not God.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2021, 13:19 DK’s followers are going too far now. They’ve turned Twitter into a shrine for the man. He must have made hundreds of people better boxers, husbands, fathers, men. How has he found the time. He’s always just a phone call away. It must be engaged a lot. Less is more, he’s not God.

these people aren’t Mensa members or media-savvy PR Yodas, are they.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 10:47

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 10:40

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 10:22

Or the Indian farmers?

https://news.sky.com/story/indian-farme ... g-12210142

Khan's family are from the Punjab originally, so that would make sense

Yeh, it's not just the Punjabi people... People around thw world are supporting them too.

Maybe Amir's good friends with Tevin Farmer and family?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Feb 2021, 12:10

See the guardian has picked this up.

This is like an episode of black mirror.

Did anybody else interpret Peter Fury's comments as something along the lines of Daniel is no angel but his exploits and global significance are severely blown out of proportion? Not putting words in the man's mouth it's just how I read it. Wonder if there's any truth in that? Irish journalists have always like to big up their criminals, it's still a very village gossip mindset sort of place.

Jimmy2020 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 16:13 Did anybody else interpret Peter Fury's comments as something along the lines of Daniel is no angel but his exploits and global significance are severely blown out of proportion? Not putting words in the man's mouth it's just how I read it. Wonder if there's any truth in that? Irish journalists have always like to big up their criminals, it's still a very village gossip mindset sort of place.

If he was so heavily wanted whys he not caught he was about enough to be at the Regency weigh in. Like I said unless the police or another mob like that nail him he will come out of this looking better.

I always thought Fury bigging him up was a rookie mistake on Tyson’s part but unless DK gets charged it will end up legitimising him, at least by boxing’s loose standards.

Look how many folk are speaking up for him.

Monzon83 wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 13:53 I would question the Irish authorities here. Christy Kinahan lives a life of luxury in Spain. They've never managed to bring him to account. His sons have never been prosecuted. It does appear the Kinahans have effectively beaten the system or at least are able to outwit Irish law enforcement. Why can't they bring any of this family to justice? I think that's a bit embarassing for the people of Ireland.

Whoever said crime doesn't pay, it seems to have done quite well for some.

I do agree to some extent but lets not forget, although the Kinahans live a good life in Dubai they are not free to travel back to Ireland, their homeland. And no matter what anyone says they must feel quite a bit of pressure from every angle.

Shhhh wrote: ↑11 Feb 2021, 18:10

Monzon83 wrote: ↑09 Feb 2021, 13:53 I would question the Irish authorities here. Christy Kinahan lives a life of luxury in Spain. They've never managed to bring him to account. His sons have never been prosecuted. It does appear the Kinahans have effectively beaten the system or at least are able to outwit Irish law enforcement. Why can't they bring any of this family to justice? I think that's a bit embarassing for the people of Ireland.

Whoever said crime doesn't pay, it seems to have done quite well for some.

most villains as I understand have loads of police links, the police are corrupt as anything, and if you have the money can be bought off. Jimmy Savile is probably the most protected wrong un there was and in a different way was a major criminal and multi millionaire. Also check out Operation Tiberius

Spot on. Its only when they fall off the perch the truth sometimes comes out. Or when they have outlived their usefulness.

My love for this man just knows no bounds,blessing us once again with his maaarrrster knowlige bruv

Eddie Hearn: ‘Everybody in boxing knew about Daniel Kinahan’

Eddie Hearn is adamant that the cloud cast by a recent BBC documentary about the involvement of influential advisor Daniel Kinahan in boxing will do nothing to damage the sport.

Hearn is back in ‘the bubble’ after more than nine weeks without a show on these shores due to the winter spike of Covid-19 which forced the British Boxing Board of Control to call a halt to all competition for January.

During the break, a BBC Panorama programme looked at the involvement of Kinahan, who has been named in Irish courts as the head of a prominent drugs cartel, in boxing.

He was last year named by Tyson Fury as the man who initially brokered the as-yet unconfirmed megafight with Anthony Joshua while a slew of major figures from the boxing world have come out in support of him since Panorama aired.

Despite the allegations against him, Kinahan has no convictions and he released a statement via Talksport which denied any links to criminal activity while also confirming he continues to be involved in “planning multiple record-breaking and exciting world title fights”.

Now Hearn, who was pictured alongside Kinahan during the documentary, has conceded that the whole issue is not good news for boxing but insists it will do no lasting damage or make him think twice about the advisors he deals with.

“Firstly anything that is negative towards the sport of boxing is not great and we’ve talked about how we’ve been growing the sport during the pandemic and how it’s in a great place,” said Hearn, who kicks off a run of 12 shows in eight weeks in seven different countries at Wembley this Saturday.

“The [Kinahan] story itself, we experienced it last year, when Tyson Fury came out and thanked his advisor. We will work with whoever we are told to work with by a fighter who we are trying to make a fight with. In that case, Daniel Kinahan was advising Tyson Fury.

“Because of the furore, he stepped back from that position and all our conversations are with Bob Arum but it has highlighted that he represents other fighters and has been an advisor for some time.

“I think that what the documentary did was open the story up to a bigger audience but everybody in boxing knew the story last year. I don’t think it taught us anything new and I think that ‘alleged’ is the right word to use here.

“I say negativity and bad press is never good for a sport but I believe the sport is in a fantastic place. I think you’ve seen comments from other fighters and fighters that he represents as well. To be honest we are so focused on continuing the growth of the sport that right now we are in a fantastic place.

“We are so focused on making the fights, we do not have any say over who a fighter appoints to represent him. We shouldn’t, by the way, because it’s a conflict of interest for us.

“I do feel that there has always been people who want to stop the progression of boxing and say ‘boxing is finished’ or ‘this is the end of boxing’. But boxing is in the best place it has ever been, globally.

“Of course we want to ride this out, keep the positivity and the momentum of the sport so for me, we want to make the biggest fights and fighters will appoint people to represent them. Whilst that is the case and whilst these advisors are operating, that’s what will continue to happen within the sport.”

Meanwhile, Hearn says talks remain ongoing to make the world heavyweight unification fight between his client Joshua, the WBA, WBO and IBF champion, and WBC king Fury but says the global pandemic has made securing even an appropriate country to host the clash complicated.

He added: “A lot of the dates now do depend on the Covid situation because originally we wanted it to happen in May but now we feel like June is a safer option. Different countries are at different stages. Some countries are in lockdown, some are open.

“Saudi Arabia are in lockdown but they are staging major events behind closed doors. I believe they plan to open up in March but you just don’t know what’s going to happen.

“Las Vegas will be opening back up in May and it would be a huge opportunity for them to get the biggest fight in boxing. Singapore, Qatar, Abu-Dhabi, Dubai. All these countries want to stage this fight.

“I wouldn’t mind a trip to Vegas in June, I think it would be a great home for the fight, but we can’t ignore the seismic offers from other areas of the world.

“All I can say is we’re finalising the minor details and nothing major that we see is going to stop this fight from happening.

“There’s no danger that this isn’t the next fight. I don’t know what we’d do if we don’t fight Tyson Fury. Everyone is so focused to get this over the line.”

chiggsy wrote: ↑12 Feb 2021, 10:25 My love for this man just knows no bounds,blessing us once again with his maaarrrster knowlige bruv

He’s developed a Kim Jong Un status in world boxing. There really should be a statue commissioned.