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Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:09
by Fightnight Scores
Look what it means to Avanesyan!
So grateful and happy.

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:10
by margaret thatcher
skanksta wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:08 It's gotta be the weight.
An elite athlete shouldn't look that gaunt @ the WI - trying to be a weight division bigger (he was).
@ the cost of turning in to David Price. :stop:
i mean, some guys just dont have the toughness or stamina for a certain level, those are abilities just as much as any others are. not necessarily a weight thing, but maybe we'll see what he's like at 154 now

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:10
by skanksta
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:04
My T Sharp wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:00 Wow. Never seen a fighter on top fall apart so quickly not even halfway through a fight
saw it coming from the 4th on, started to fiddle around more, stay too long in one place, and get hit more and more


ava also tightened his work up a bit and focused more on short inside shots and body work after finding it hard to hit kellys head from outside earlier on
David Price's career fell apart in 20 seconds in R4 (5?) against Tony The Tiger !

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:11
by brilo33
Fightnight Scores wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:09 Look what it means to Avanesyan!
So grateful and happy.
Avanesyan is a top fighter been in with quailty

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:12
by golden_labrador
anti-Kelly feelings aside, how much do you think the bloodloss affected things?

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:12
by Twinkle Toes
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:02 was ava in control for me after 3 (dudes really gave the 4th to kelly ??), kelly started bright but then burned out fast
That's it, not sure what the commentary team were watching, but Avanesyan was getting some quality shots in and none of it was getting picked up by the commentary.

Plus Kelly was completely blowing out of his arse by the end of the 4th, and no one noticed - He fell apart so quickly, I suspect his weight making and muscle gain hasn't helped.

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:12
by skanksta
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:10
skanksta wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:08 It's gotta be the weight.
An elite athlete shouldn't look that gaunt @ the WI - trying to be a weight division bigger (he was).
@ the cost of turning in to David Price. :stop:
i mean, some guys just dont have the toughness or stamina for a certain level, those are abilities just as much as any others are. not necessarily a weight thing, but maybe we'll see what he's like at 154 now
Surely being that big @ the weight is what's causing the stamina issue ? :maybe:

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:12
by My T Sharp
skanksta wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:10
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:04
My T Sharp wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:00 Wow. Never seen a fighter on top fall apart so quickly not even halfway through a fight
saw it coming from the 4th on, started to fiddle around more, stay too long in one place, and get hit more and more


ava also tightened his work up a bit and focused more on short inside shots and body work after finding it hard to hit kellys head from outside earlier on
David Price's career fell apart in 20 seconds in R4 (5?) against Tony The Tiger !
Grrrrreeeeat shout

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:14
by margaret thatcher
skanksta wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:12
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:10
skanksta wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:08 It's gotta be the weight.
An elite athlete shouldn't look that gaunt @ the WI - trying to be a weight division bigger (he was).
@ the cost of turning in to David Price. :stop:
i mean, some guys just dont have the toughness or stamina for a certain level, those are abilities just as much as any others are. not necessarily a weight thing, but maybe we'll see what he's like at 154 now
Surely being that big @ the weight is what's causing the stamina issue ? :maybe:
why surely? lots of guys are big at a weight and can go more than 6. and it wasnt purely stamina either, he was getting hit with shots that added up.

david price who you mention doesnt have to cut any weight but he blew his arse too

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:15
by Boxerbeetle
Twinkle Toes wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:12
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:02 was ava in control for me after 3 (dudes really gave the 4th to kelly ??), kelly started bright but then burned out fast
That's it, not sure what the commentary team were watching, but Avanesyan was getting some quality shots in and none of it was getting picked up by the commentary.

Plus Kelly was completely blowing out of his arse by the end of the 4th, and no one noticed - He fell apart so quickly, I suspect his weight making and muscle gain hasn't helped.
Macklin was picking it up to be fair, I thought he kept trying to steer Smith into noticing all the work Ava was doing, but Smith just plowed on with saying how amazing Kelly was doing.

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:16
by margaret thatcher
i dont really see how anyone could miss it come round 4, kelly literally spent 90 percent of the round prancing and getting hit more and more, and chased into corners while doing no work of his own. he did legit start well in the first 3 but at this level he's flash over substance when it gets going

then round 5, he spends half of it in close pushing ava back (as in literally, not with punches)without actually throwing, while ava keeps his hands moving pecking away.....

i didnt expect him to go down like that in the 6th, but you could see the shift was happening

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:19
by Twinkle Toes
Boxerbeetle wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:15
Macklin was picking it up to be fair, I thought he kept trying to steer Smith into noticing all the work Ava was doing, but Smith just plowed on with saying how amazing Kelly was doing.
I was watching the Dazn coverage and it was very poor.

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:20
by samwbr
Kelly is slick and flash but he's got no power. Gifted the draw v Ray Robinson, got beaten up properly tonight.

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:21
by skanksta
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:14
skanksta wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:12
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:10

i mean, some guys just dont have the toughness or stamina for a certain level, those are abilities just as much as any others are. not necessarily a weight thing, but maybe we'll see what he's like at 154 now
Surely being that big @ the weight is what's causing the stamina issue ? :maybe:
why surely? lots of guys are big at a weight and can go more than 6. and it wasnt purely stamina either, he was getting hit with shots that added up.

david price who you mention doesnt have to cut any weight but he blew his arse too
fair points, ok not surely.
But still probably/maybe - Hope it IS the weight otherwise Kelly is done.

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:21
by margaret thatcher
samwbr wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:20 Kelly is slick and flash but he's got no power. Gifted the draw v Ray Robinson, got beaten up properly tonight.
but tbf he can throw 6 left hooks in a row :yay:

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:22
by skanksta
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:16 i dont really see how anyone could miss it come round 4, kelly literally spent 90 percent of the round prancing and getting hit more and more, and chased into corners while doing no work of his own. he did legit start well in the first 3 but at this level he's flash over substance when it gets going

then round 5, he spends half of it in close pushing ava back (as in literally, not with punches)without actually throwing, while ava keeps his hands moving pecking away.....

i didnt expect him to go down like that in the 6th, but you could see the shift was happening
Good spot, you called it.

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:22
by Flump
Boxerbeetle wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:08 Really enjoyable card anyway. Been a good couple of weeks for Saturday night boxing on Sky :bag:
Yeah good couple of weeks, competitive matchmaking, credit where it's due.

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:23
by TheLeprechaun
Kelly could have 100 fights vs Avaneyan over 12 rounds and he wouldn't win one.

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:23
by samwbr
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:21
samwbr wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:20 Kelly is slick and flash but he's got no power. Gifted the draw v Ray Robinson, got beaten up properly tonight.
but tbf he can throw 6 left hooks in a row :yay:
Not much left in Adam Booths gym at the moment.

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:25
by skanksta
Conor Benn sells a fight doesn't he ! :box:

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:25
by brilo33
margaret thatcher wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:16 i dont really see how anyone could miss it come round 4, kelly literally spent 90 percent of the round prancing and getting hit more and more, and chased into corners while doing no work of his own. he did legit start well in the first 3 but at this level he's flash over substance when it gets going

then round 5, he spends half of it in close pushing ava back (as in literally, not with punches)without actually throwing, while ava keeps his hands moving pecking away.....

i didnt expect him to go down like that in the 6th, but you could see the shift was happening
i agree i could see the changing of the gaurd, it was also after kelly was having a good 2 and 3 but couldnt hurt david then you see the change coming, but i still dont get why kelly was fighting that way, he should be a centre ring moving pivting circles or back foot in and out booth aint the right man for him

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:27
by brilo33
skanksta wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:25 Conor Benn sells a fight doesn't he ! :box:
yea well they have a good social media history why not

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:28
by Ruthless-RKO
Twinkle Toes wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:19
Boxerbeetle wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:15
Macklin was picking it up to be fair, I thought he kept trying to steer Smith into noticing all the work Ava was doing, but Smith just plowed on with saying how amazing Kelly was doing.
I was watching the Dazn coverage and it was very poor.
Sky weren’t any better.

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:29
by jameswilson
Boxerbeetle wrote: 20 Feb 2021, 19:08 Really enjoyable card anyway. Been a good couple of weeks for Saturday night boxing on Sky :bag:
Shame the Frampton fight fell through next week.

Re: Round-by-Round: Josh Kelly vs. David Avanesyan - 20 February 2021

Posted: 20 Feb 2021, 19:30
by Ruthless-RKO