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Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:38
by Grilling Machine
gregregegg wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:29I refuse to call it a quit if you were up by 10 facing the ref.. I dont think he wanted to continue but he did get up in time and faced up to the ref.
Yep. I don't think he wanted to continue, but beating the count's beating the count.

I suppose there are circumstances where the ref can infer a lack of desire makes continuation dangerous, but that's on the fighter or corner to make that call for him. When a fighter's not obviously gone, I mean.

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:38
by Redback Rasta
It's low. Move on.

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:39
by dookus
Fisheyes ranting about the low blow controversy in the ring. Didn't he do pretty well off Hatton getting away with something similar against Tszyu?

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:39
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:41
by jameswilson
Are we going to rule out the possibility that if the ref started counting when Usyk went down that Usyk just gets up and manages the next few rounds to recover?

What did everyone see that suggests that Dubois would give Usyk a 5 minute pummelling following the shot?

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:42
by rd350lc
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:39
If your balls are up there you have fuckin big ones :OhYes:

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:42
by Grilling Machine
Redback Rasta wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:31Image
Usyk's covering hand would've made that look lower from a lot of angles.

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:43
by margaret thatcher
jameswilson wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:41 Are we going to rule out the possibility that if the ref started counting when Usyk went down that Usyk just gets up and manages the next few rounds to recover?

What did everyone see that suggests that Dubois would give Usyk a 5 minute pummelling following the shot?
yep people always do that, same thing with tyson-douglas and the long count

and ffs 2/3 of dub's glove was below the beltline, how is that not low :lol:

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:43
by joshj909
jameswilson wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:41 Are we going to rule out the possibility that if the ref started counting when Usyk went down that Usyk just gets up and manages the next few rounds to recover?

What did everyone see that suggests that Dubois would give Usyk a 5 minute pummelling following the shot?
This is the main thing that proves that everyone saying Dubois should be champ is being biased because they wanted Dubois to win.

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:43
by handsofstone
That's twice Dubois done with a jab

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:44
by margaret thatcher
joshj909 wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:43
jameswilson wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:41 Are we going to rule out the possibility that if the ref started counting when Usyk went down that Usyk just gets up and manages the next few rounds to recover?

What did everyone see that suggests that Dubois would give Usyk a 5 minute pummelling following the shot?
This is the main thing that proves that everyone saying Dubois should be champ is being biased because they wanted Dubois to win.
:TU:

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:44
by grannyman
jwfg wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:32
grannyman wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:30
jwfg wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:25

It was below the beltline. 100%
Nope
Was the whole of his glove above Usyk's shorts?
He was holding his balls, pretending he was hurt in his balls. Is that different from a footballer’s dive?

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:44
by Twinkle Toes
No idea what Dubois team is smoking.

Clearly low and not a body shot, ref was instantly on it. The replay and static pics say it all. What we saying, it was only semi low so it doesn't count as a low blow and is a legitimate body shot

:doh:

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:44
by veriton
Dubois beats AJ, that much is clear now

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:45
by grannyman
Twinkle Toes wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:44 No idea what Dubois team is smoking.

Clearly low and not a body shot, ref was instantly on it. The replay and static pics say it all. What we saying, it was only semi low so it doesn't count as a low blow and is a legitimate body shot

:doh:
Are you high?

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:45
by margaret thatcher
Twinkle Toes wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:44 No idea what Dubois team is smoking.

Clearly low and not a body shot, ref was instantly on it. The replay and static pics say it all. What we saying, it was only semi low so it doesn't count as a low blow and is a legitimate body shot

:doh:
:TU:

looks like some people are buying into it though

should be the champ on a shot with over half his glove below the belt line!!

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:45
by jwfg
margaret thatcher wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:43
jameswilson wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:41 Are we going to rule out the possibility that if the ref started counting when Usyk went down that Usyk just gets up and manages the next few rounds to recover?

What did everyone see that suggests that Dubois would give Usyk a 5 minute pummelling following the shot?
yep people always do that, same thing with tyson-douglas and the long count

and ffs 2/3 of dub's glove was below the beltline, how is that not low :lol:
It's low. Some of the stills are a few frames different and show the fist a little higher. At the point of impact it's as clear as your hate of the unions in the early 80's.

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:46
by grannyman
veriton wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:44 Dubois beats AJ, that much is clear now
I disagree with this. I’m no AJ fan, but he was excellent in that second fight, but beaten by someone even better.

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:46
by margaret thatcher
veriton wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:44 Dubois beats AJ, that much is clear now
i gave aj 4 rounds last usyk fight, only 1 to dubs this time plus he was stopped

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:46
by Grilling Machine
jameswilson wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:41Are we going to rule out the possibility that if the ref started counting when Usyk went down that Usyk just gets up and manages the next few rounds to recover?

What did everyone see that suggests that Dubois would give Usyk a 5 minute pummelling following the shot?
His comparative weakness to bodyshots historically and his big reaction to it. Maybe he'd have been able to cover up and ride out Dubois' assault, but none of us know.

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:47
by jwfg
grannyman wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:44
jwfg wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:32
grannyman wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:30

Nope
Was the whole of his glove above Usyk's shorts?
He was holding his balls, pretending he was hurt in his balls. Is that different from a footballer’s dive?
Have you ever been in a boxing ring and been punched really hard in the protective equipment?

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:48
by jwfg
margaret thatcher wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:46 i gave aj 4 rounds last usyk fight, only 1 to dubs this time plus he was stopped
This.

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:48
by grannyman
jwfg wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:47
grannyman wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:44
jwfg wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:32

Was the whole of his glove above Usyk's shorts?
He was holding his balls, pretending he was hurt in his balls. Is that different from a footballer’s dive?
Have you ever been in a boxing ring and been punched really hard in the protective equipment?
Nope. But I wouldn’t hold my balls.

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:48
by Twinkle Toes
grannyman wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:45
Twinkle Toes wrote: 26 Aug 2023, 18:44 No idea what Dubois team is smoking.

Clearly low and not a body shot, ref was instantly on it. The replay and static pics say it all. What we saying, it was only semi low so it doesn't count as a low blow and is a legitimate body shot

:doh:
Are you high?
Ermm no thats why I can make a critical judgement. Unlike for example...you.

Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023

Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:48
by Ruthless-RKO
Usyk control the fight from start to finish overall.