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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 05:07
by Ruthless-RKO
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 04:52
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:22
His median weight throughout his career is around 223. Not sure why any of this means anything really. He was coming off the flu for the first Ortiz fight and he was too light for the Fury fight. Those
two were the anomolies. Last 7 fights: 223.5/212.5/214.75/220.75/222/226.25/228.75. Vs Ortiz II...???
I’ve been proven right, once again. Wilder ALWAYS weighs less than 220lbs against threatening decent opposition!
Ortiz I, Fury and Ortiz II?
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 05:15
by Ruthless-RKO
Luis Nery vs. Emmanuel Rodriguez CANCELLED
The Luis Nery vs. Emmanuel Rodriguez bantamweight fight has been cancelled due to safety reasons for the Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz 2 card on Saturday night. Nery (30-0, 24 KOs) came in ONE pound over the bantamweight limit at 119lbs, and Rodriguez (19-1, 12 KOs) didn’t accept the financial offer to have the fight go ahead for the card.
Rodriguez not fighting due to safety reasons
They’re saying it’s a safety concern for why Rodriguez didn’t take the fight, but it was only one pound that Nery came over, not 4 or 5.
It’s unclear how much extra money Rodriguez wanted to get. Nery’s purse for the card was $300,000 and Rodriguez’s $70,000. Rodriguez might have wanted more than Nery, 24, was willing to give.
Former WBC bantamweight champion Nery was the A-side fighter, who many believe is a future star. Rodriguez is just a good basic fighter, who is coming off of a 2nd round knockout loss to Naoya Inoue. He’s NOT considered a future star like Nery.
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In another weight-related situation, Julio Ceja failed to make the 122-pound limit by 4.5 pounds, but his PPV bout against WBA super bantamweight champion Brandon Figueroa is still on. Ceja cannot win the belt and it will become vacant if Ceja wins the fight.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 07:45
by DrDuke
Finkel wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 02:28
Tony1244 wrote: ↑22 Nov 2019, 20:56
Me too. another reason not to buy it.
Honestly if Wilder blows him out in under 3~4 rounds it will be a real signal that he has stepped up in levels.
Would be incredibly impressive if he does it in the first round.
Ortiz is not an ring-rusty/out-of-shape Stiverne or a tailor-made Breazeale
I agree. Well, the first Ortiz fight was a good lesson for Wilder. And then Fury fight. Ortiz appeared to be in a better physical shape now. He's old, but he didn't have hard bouts after Wilder. So Ortiz still looks like a dangerous opponent. If Wilder KOs him early, I'll be impressed too.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 09:02
by adislav123
ortiz will put a clinic on wilder. outbox him from the opening bell & work up his titanium beard until the corner throws in the towel.
wilder will have problems even touching ortiz.
fair ref, doc & judges would be nice but of course they'll fvck ortiz over
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 09:04
by DrDuke
adislav123 wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 09:02
ortiz will put a clinic on wilder. outbox him from the opening bell & work up his titanium beard until the corner throws in the towel.
wilder will have problems even touching ortiz.
fair ref, doc & judges would be nice but of course they'll fvck ortiz over
Ortiz is far from being that elusive.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 09:10
by littlepug
Ortiz is old as hell, Wilder has the confidence of already stopping him, this ends early for me
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 09:26
by Enlightened-One
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 05:07
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 04:52
I’ve been proven right, once again. Wilder ALWAYS weighs less than 220lbs against threatening decent opposition!
Ortiz I, Fury and Ortiz II?
Yep, those and both Stiverne bouts.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 10:16
by margaret thatcher
This PPV got even weaker...imagine if Figurora had also decided not to fight with Ceja being way overweight
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 10:43
by Onetimeonly
Sorry card, of course there is no ufc and no big prime time college game. I can already see the extra $90 on my bill.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 13:21
by adislav123
littlepug wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 09:10
Ortiz is old as hell, Wilder has the confidence of already stopping him, this ends early for me
ortiz is 40 & in tip top shape.
ortiz won the first 5 rounds up until the first knockdown.
wilder was done in in the 7th. if they wouldn't have gifted him that breather against the rules, ortiz would've finished him. 100%.
plus after the final wild pushdown, the referee blocked ortiz from any chance to even try to get up again & waived it off instantly without any count.
wilder would've got a full count plus again some extra recovery time by doc check.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 13:40
by KiwiRider
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 10:43
Sorry card, of course there is no ufc and no big prime time college game. I can already see the extra $90 on my bill.
Save your money mate
It really isn't worth it for what they are charging in the US.
Your paying $75 for a really crappy undercard (the best fight now off) and what could possibly be 2 minutes of boxing
Take your money down the knock shop and get
slightly longer than 2 minutes worth.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 14:13
by Onetimeonly
KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 13:40
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 10:43
Sorry card, of course there is no ufc and no big prime time college game. I can already see the extra $90 on my bill.
Save your money mate
It really isn't worth it for what they are charging in the US.
Your paying $75 for a really crappy undercard (the best fight now off) and what could possibly be 2 minutes of boxing
Take your money down the knock shop and get
slightly longer than 2 minutes worth.
Lol, it's actually just $65! I hear you, but I bought it, nothing else on. I suppose the only justification is the first fight was much better than wilder/fury. Lol.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 14:20
by KiwiRider
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 14:13
KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 13:40
Save your money mate
It really isn't worth it for what they are charging in the US.
Your paying $75 for a really crappy undercard (the best fight now off) and what could possibly be 2 minutes of boxing
Take your money down the knock shop and get
slightly longer than 2 minutes worth.
Lol, it's actually just $65! I hear you, but I bought it, nothing else on. I suppose the only justification is the first fight was much better than wilder/fury. Lol.
$31 USD in my country live in HD.
And I'm still not sure I will get it
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 14:49
by Onetimeonly
KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 14:20
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 14:13
Lol, it's actually just $65! I hear you, but I bought it, nothing else on. I suppose the only justification is the first fight was much better than wilder/fury. Lol.
$31 USD in my country live in HD.
And I'm still not sure I will get it
Good for you, trust me I know I'm a sucker. Hold strong.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 14:54
by oogiebe
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 04:52
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Nov 2019, 17:22
His median weight throughout his career is around 223. Not sure why any of this means anything really. He was coming off the flu for the first Ortiz fight and he was too light for the Fury fight. Those
two were the anomolies. Last 7 fights: 223.5/212.5/214.75/220.75/222/226.25/228.75. Vs Ortiz II...???
I’ve been proven right, once again. Wilder ALWAYS weighs less than 220lbs against threatening decent opposition!
1/2 pound. yes, you are still Charlie Z of the forum.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 16:11
by Jeff_lacy_ko
Nah skip Bayless of the forum
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 20:44
by KiwiRider
Slavinskyi is quite nice to watch. I've not seen him before.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 21:02
by KiwiRider

the guy throws one punch on Wilder Jr, and he folds like a deckchair. It wasn't even a full shot.
Well, we know or sure who got the chin in that family

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 21:04
by margaret thatcher
Wilder's brother ain't even a boxer really, just put some gloves on to cash in on his brother's name.
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 21:06
by KiwiRider
Hello!
Am I the only tight arse watching the free prelims?
They are actually quite entertaining thus far.
Heck, I might even cough up for the main fight card

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 21:06
by margaret thatcher
KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 21:06
Hello!
Am I the only tight arse watching the free prelims?
They are actually quite entertaining thus far.
Heck, I might even cough up for the main fight card
U will
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 21:07
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 21:04
Wilder's brother ain't even a boxer really, just put some gloves on to cash in on his brother's name.
Well, that's over now.

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 21:21
by KiwiRider
oogiebe wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 21:07
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 21:04
Wilder's brother ain't even a boxer really, just put some gloves on to cash in on his brother's name.
Well, that's over now.
Yeah. They can't match him lower than that. The guy barely threw a punch until he did, then knocked Wilder out proper style. Talk about glass chin!
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 21:22
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 21:06
KiwiRider wrote: ↑23 Nov 2019, 21:06
Hello!
Am I the only tight arse watching the free prelims?
They are actually quite entertaining thus far.
Heck, I might even cough up for the main fight card
U will
Mebbie

Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Luis Ortiz II - November 23, 2019
Posted: 23 Nov 2019, 21:28
by KiwiRider
Juarez can bang!
Ouch!
