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Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:49
by margaret thatcher
agree, dubs won maybe a round, this is turning into another 'life and death with chisora' episode
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:50
by rd350lc
grannyman wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:44
jwfg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:32
Was the whole of his glove above Usyk's shorts?
He was holding his balls, pretending he was hurt in his balls. Is that different from a footballer’s dive?
I'm with you here, it definitely didn't hit him in the bollox no matter what anyone says , so why pretend otherwise ?
Unless you are trying to con the ref, not that he needed any persuasion.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:51
by forcefraser
Danny quit there, but that 5th round body shot was legit.
Should be unified champ now.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:51
by grannyman
Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:48
grannyman wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:45
Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:44
No idea what Dubois team is smoking.
Clearly low and not a body shot, ref was instantly on it. The replay and static pics say it all. What we saying, it was only semi low so it doesn't count as a low blow and is a legitimate body shot
Are you high?
Ermm no thats why I can make a critical judgement. Unlike for example...you.
I’m sorry.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:52
by jwfg
grannyman wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:48
jwfg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:47
grannyman wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:44
He was holding his balls, pretending he was hurt in his balls. Is that different from a footballer’s dive?
Have you ever been in a boxing ring and been punched really hard in the protective equipment?
Nope. But I wouldn’t hold my balls.
When you get hit in the protector as hard as DDD hits, the whole thing moves. It bloody hurts, man.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:56
by grannyman
jwfg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:52
grannyman wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:48
jwfg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:47
Have you ever been in a boxing ring and been punched really hard in the protective equipment?
Nope. But I wouldn’t hold my balls.
When you get hit in the protector as hard as DDD hits, the whole thing moves. It bloody hurts, man.
I don’t doubt it, genuinely. But there was definitely a bit of ‘holding the balls, look at the ref it was outrageous’ about it.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:56
by grannyman
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Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:57
by TBA
Aye, it's only legal if it's against Kovalev.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:57
by Ricky
TBA wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:57
Aye, it's only legal if it's against Kovalev.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:58
by veriton
Also, Laura Woods is class....the gulf between her and Poncher is embarrassing. Someone needs to have a word about chubs and tight leather trousers
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:58
by Frostieballs
grannyman wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:48
jwfg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:47
grannyman wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:44
He was holding his balls, pretending he was hurt in his balls. Is that different from a footballer’s dive?
Have you ever been in a boxing ring and been punched really hard in the protective equipment?
Nope. But I wouldn’t hold my balls.
You’re missing the point. If you get caught on the protector, everything in that region is getting hurt.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:58
by SticknMove
jwfg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:52
grannyman wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:48
jwfg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:47
Have you ever been in a boxing ring and been punched really hard in the protective equipment?
Nope. But I wouldn’t hold my balls.
When you get hit in the protector as hard as DDD hits, the whole thing moves. It bloody hurts, man.
If you get hit hard on the belt line the momentum of the shot will move the protector and sometimes snag a bollock. Especially with heavyweights. Anyways happy you won 400 squids.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 18:59
by handsofstone
The thing is with borderline shots is that theyre neither here nor there, I thought it should've been a KD but not the very worst call, low blow doesn't mean in the cock and balls, just below the waistband which kinda leaves it up to the refs discrepancy and ours as well tbf, neither side of the coin here can definitively say their right because its a massive fist sized grey area
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:00
by Ruthless-RKO
Who’s to say Usyk wouldn’t have beaten the count and continued anyway?
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:01
by margaret thatcher
handsofstone wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:59
The thing is with borderline shots is that theyre neither here nor there, I thought it should've been a KD but not the very worst call, low blow doesn't mean in the cock and balls, just below the waistband which kinda leaves it up to the refs discrepancy and ours as well tbf, neither side of the coin here can definitively say their right because its a massive fist sized grey area
i dunno, i feel like i can definitevly say it was low unless the ref gave dubois permission to land most his glove below the waist band
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:01
by Grilling Machine
gregregegg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:38Hard to say what hurt him, the effects to the body, or pulling the cup up into his nuts, but yea i see it as technicaly low, correct call by the ref, but often allowed to play on in other fights.
Our pipes don't have much protection below our lowest abs, so maybe the pain radiated down his spermatic cord into his balls or something like that.
It would've been markedly less painful had it landed slightly higher, but I'd fancy was still a good enough shot to cause a knockdown. Perhaps the difference between a crippling knockdown and an elective breather though.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:02
by cormack
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:00
Who’s to say Usyk wouldn’t have beaten the count and continued anyway?
his face said he wasnt getting up after that
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:02
by samwbr
If the ref counted he'd have got up I think
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:03
by jwfg
SticknMove wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:58
jwfg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:52
grannyman wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:48
Nope. But I wouldn’t hold my balls.
When you get hit in the protector as hard as DDD hits, the whole thing moves. It bloody hurts, man.
If you get hit hard on the belt line the momentum of the shot will move the protector and sometimes snag a bollock. Especially with heavyweights. Anyways happy you won 400 squids.
Agreed, and thank you. No more bets for me for a while. Far too stressful.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:03
by cormack
warren et al gonna be bleating like hell now that dd got robbed .
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:04
by jwfg
stevec@france wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:02
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:00
Who’s to say Usyk wouldn’t have beaten the count and continued anyway?
his face said he wasnt getting up after that
His face said he'd been hit with a massive low blow. He looked genuinely shocked.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:04
by gregregegg
Grilling Machine wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:01
gregregegg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 18:38Hard to say what hurt him, the effects to the body, or pulling the cup up into his nuts, but yea i see it as technicaly low, correct call by the ref, but often allowed to play on in other fights.
Our pipes don't have much protection below our lowest abs, so maybe the pain radiated down his spermatic cord into his balls or something like that.
It would've been markedly less painful had it landed slightly higher, but I'd fancy was still a good enough shot to cause a knockdown. Perhaps the difference between a crippling knockdown and an elective breather though.
Ye, i get what your saying, it was low, it hurt him, the reason it hurt him is it was low, would it of hurt him if it was up 2 inches....
ultimently dosent matter what it would of done though.... If a thunderouse airswing would of landed on someones chin it would of been a KO, but it didnt.... it only counts wherre it lands, and where it landed isnt legal...
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:05
by samwbr
stevec@france wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:03
warren et al gonna be bleating like hell now that dd got robbed .
He already is, Frampton joining in. His man got beat and KOd by a jab, didn't want it.
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:06
by Grilling Machine
gregregegg wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:04it only counts wherre it lands, and where it landed isnt legal...
All I'm saying is - from an entertainment pov - it's a shame it wasn't legal!
Re: Round-by-Round: Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois - 26 August 2023
Posted: 26 Aug 2023, 19:07
by Ruthless-RKO
stevec@france wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:02
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Aug 2023, 19:00
Who’s to say Usyk wouldn’t have beaten the count and continued anyway?
his face said he wasnt getting up after that
He would’ve been forced to get up