Do all of us who correctly forecast the fight get to punch you once?
Once!
I didn't think you were predicting a Washington win, you were more predicting Washington would test him? I was hoping he would at least test him. We were both badly wrong on that front
I was hoping his new trainer would have had him use a long jab to keep Konacki at a distance. Geez...Washington just doesn't know how to box. oops is right!
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
I didn't think you were predicting a Washington win, you were more predicting Washington would test him? I was hoping he would at least test him. We were both badly wrong on that front
I was hoping his new trainer would have had him use a long jab to keep Konacki at a distance. Geez...Washington just doesn't know how to box. oops is right!
He was totally overwhelmed and hurt right away. Kow is not the guy to fight if you're a tentative slow starter expecting a nice civilized feeling out round in round number one.
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
Posted: 27 Jan 2019, 22:11
by Lackeos
To finish the fight this quickly is another great result for Kownacki. Whether he looks athletic or not, he is effective. He's also done a lot more to earn a title shot than the three former title challengers whom he has now beaten.
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
Posted: 28 Jan 2019, 04:12
by candyslim
Never mind Gerald. At least you didn't get discouraged and basically give up as some like me were expecting. The fight didn't last long enough for that. Gotta take the positives, eh?
As a man whose idea of working out these days consists of calculations with pen and paper, I can look up to Kownacki as a hero, the pride of the flabby average joe.
I do agree that he could pose problems for Wilder stylewise, but ultimately I think he would go the way of Szplika. He should steer clear of Joshua though. He's not going to fight Miller as they're old friends but I'd love to see him against Kuzmin or even Chisora.
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
Posted: 28 Jan 2019, 06:55
by funso banjo baby
Kownacki is another Lucas Browne.
and what a shockingly lethargic and stupid display from Washington.
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
Posted: 28 Jan 2019, 07:28
by Enlightened-One
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 10:30
Washington was rated 14th by the WBC, but then pushed to 8th place shortly before his bout with ‘The Bronze Bomber’ despite not having fought for over seven months. It was as if Mauricio Sulaimán was trying to give Deontay Wilder’s voluntary title defence some sort of credibility, by allowing Showtime to boast the fact that the American was facing a so-called "top-ten" ranked heavyweight, when he clearly wasn’t.
So I’d be shocked if Adam Kownacki fails to score a stoppage victory over Washington within six rounds.
It seems that my lack of respect for Washington‘s general boxing ability was entirely justified.
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
Posted: 28 Jan 2019, 09:05
by Rob3_142
funso banjo baby wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 06:55
Kownacki is another Lucas Browne.
and what a shockingly lethargic and stupid display from Washington.
Konacki is nothing like Browne.
Browne was a one punch knockout artist. He was well behind against an ageing Chagaev before landing the killer blow. Kownacki is a high volume accurate front foot fighter.
They both are bald. Maybe that's what you were referring to?
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
Posted: 28 Jan 2019, 12:09
by HeavyHitters
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 22:23
Could I have been more wrong about Washington?! WTF kind of fight approach was that?!
I was in the same boat. Washing needed to play it safe and box and move around for 6 or 7 rounds, then try and lower the BOOM on a tired Kownacki later on. He fought a very poor fight, strategy wise,. But I guess I totally underrated Kownacki, just like Washington did. In a slugfest early on with anybody, "Atom KO" has a good chance to knockdown and possibly KO most heavyweights.
From this fight, I learned:
Kownacki is a rising star in the heavyweight division, and has better than average power , along with precision.
Washington and his team are "very poor" when it comes to game planning.
Washington has poor defensive skills and is vulnerable to heavy punchers.
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
oogiebe wrote: ↑26 Jan 2019, 22:23
Could I have been more wrong about Washington?! WTF kind of fight approach was that?!
I was in the same boat. Washing needed to play it safe and box and move around for 6 or 7 rounds, then try and lower the BOOM on a tired Kownacki later on. He fought a very poor fight, strategy wise,. But I guess I totally underrated Kownacki, just like Washington did. In a slugfest early on with anybody, "Atom KO" has a good chance to knockdown and possibly KO most heavyweights.
From this fight, I learned:
Kownacki is a rising star in the heavyweight division, and has better than average power , along with precision.
Washington and his team are "very poor" when it comes to game planning.
Washington has poor defensive skills and is vulnerable to heavy punchers.
I still feel as if Kownacki isn't all that good. Fun to watch, but not terribly dangerous to top HW's. I could be wrong, and hopefully we'll see in his next fight. I'll be the first to put him on a pedestal if/when he beats a better fighter, (The Charles Martin fight doesn't rate for me, as I think Martin is terrible).
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
Posted: 28 Jan 2019, 13:54
by Ilya Muromets
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 03:43
by candyslim
funso banjo baby wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019, 06:55
Kownacki is another Lucas Browne.
and what a shockingly lethargic and stupid display from Washington.
Absolutely stupid game-plan. That new aggressive trainer sure worked out well. Browne won a version of a World title. I suspect Kownacki would settle for that when the time comes for him to look back at his career.
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 10:30
Washington was rated 14th by the WBC, but then pushed to 8th place shortly before his bout with ‘The Bronze Bomber’ despite not having fought for over seven months. It was as if Mauricio Sulaimán was trying to give Deontay Wilder’s voluntary title defence some sort of credibility, by allowing Showtime to boast the fact that the American was facing a so-called "top-ten" ranked heavyweight, when he clearly wasn’t.
So I’d be shocked if Adam Kownacki fails to score a stoppage victory over Washington within six rounds.
It seems that my lack of respect for Washington‘s general boxing ability was entirely justified.
You must be psychic EO. We all thought he was Muhammad Ali II
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Jan 2019, 10:30
Washington was rated 14th by the WBC, but then pushed to 8th place shortly before his bout with ‘The Bronze Bomber’ despite not having fought for over seven months. It was as if Mauricio Sulaimán was trying to give Deontay Wilder’s voluntary title defence some sort of credibility, by allowing Showtime to boast the fact that the American was facing a so-called "top-ten" ranked heavyweight, when he clearly wasn’t.
So I’d be shocked if Adam Kownacki fails to score a stoppage victory over Washington within six rounds.
It seems that my lack of respect for Washington‘s general boxing ability was entirely justified.
You must be psychic EO. We all thought he was Muhammad Ali II
To be fair, I’ve always consistently moaned about Mauricio Sulaimán’s actions, whereby the WBC elevated Washington in their rankings to give Wilder’s voluntary title defence more credibility.
Some people thought he was a moderately decent heavyweight. I wonder who that was?
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 04:52
by candyslim
Tbf I thought he was moderately decent at one point. He certainly looks an impressive specimen but gradually I've realized he isn't tough enough mentally (or physically now it would appear) to amount to much as a fighter.
As for the boost up the rankings, i'm sure that would come as no surprise to anyone. Haymon tugs on the the string and Sulaiman does a little dance. Al must have compromising photographs I reckon
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
Posted: 29 Jan 2019, 05:18
by Enlightened-One
candyslim wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 04:52As for the boost up the rankings, i'm sure that would come as no surprise to anyone. Haymon tugs on the the string and Sulaiman does a little dance. Al must have compromising photographs I reckon
I agree with you, since I feel the WBC have orchestrated an awful lot of poor opponents for Wilder's title defences. Who knows? Maybe Sulaiman and Haymon thought that 'The Bronze Bomber' captured the title too early and needed to be protected whilst he still learned his craft?
Other than his last two outings, Wilder’s resume is pretty dire for a fighter that has been a pro for more than a decade and also a world champion for more than four years.
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
candyslim wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 04:52As for the boost up the rankings, i'm sure that would come as no surprise to anyone. Haymon tugs on the the string and Sulaiman does a little dance. Al must have compromising photographs I reckon
I agree with you, since I feel the WBC have orchestrated an awful lot of poor opponents for Wilder's title defences. Who knows? Maybe Sulaiman and Haymon thought that 'The Bronze Bomber' captured the title too early and needed to be protected whilst he still learned his craft?
Other than his last two outings, Wilder’s resume is pretty dire for a fighter that has been a pro for more than a decade and also a world champion for more than four years.
Ssssshhhhh. Stop it EO. You mustn’t suggest that there is any collusion between that nice Mr Haymon and that nice Mr Sulaiman nor that they have acted in any way to protect the WBC Heavyweight Champion.
Deontay Wilder has always fought the very best contenders available, and has pursued unification fights with utmost vigour against Vitali, against Wlad, against Fury (or would have done had he not got stripped) against Martin, against Parker and against Joshua. He tried for several years to persuade Luis Ortiz to face him and eventually his persistence paid off.
It is not his fault that the aforementioned all ducked him, and some are continuing to duck him. His resume is second to none and anybody who suggests that any of this isn’t true is quite clearly a Wilder-hater and should be tarred and feathered.
Deontay is all about legacy. One name, one face, one champion. I know that to be true because he has said so many times, and you should know it too. Shame on you.
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
candyslim wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 04:52As for the boost up the rankings, i'm sure that would come as no surprise to anyone. Haymon tugs on the the string and Sulaiman does a little dance. Al must have compromising photographs I reckon
I agree with you, since I feel the WBC have orchestrated an awful lot of poor opponents for Wilder's title defences. Who knows? Maybe Sulaiman and Haymon thought that 'The Bronze Bomber' captured the title too early and needed to be protected whilst he still learned his craft?
Other than his last two outings, Wilder’s resume is pretty dire for a fighter that has been a pro for more than a decade and also a world champion for more than four years.
Ssssshhhhh. Stop it EO. You mustn’t suggest that there is any collusion between that nice Mr Haymon and that nice Mr Sulaiman nor that they have acted in any way to protect the WBC Heavyweight Champion.
Deontay Wilder has always fought the very best contenders available, and has pursued unification fights with utmost vigour against Vitali, against Wlad, against Fury (or would have done had he not got stripped) against Martin, against Parker and against Joshua. He tried for several years to persuade Luis Ortiz to face him and eventually his persistence paid off.
It is not his fault that the aforementioned all ducked him, and some are continuing to duck him. His resume is second to none and anybody who suggests that any of this isn’t true is quite clearly a Wilder-hater and should be tarred and feathered.
Deontay is all about legacy. One name, one face, one champion. I know that to be true because he has said so many times, and you should know it too. Shame on you.
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
candyslim wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 04:52As for the boost up the rankings, i'm sure that would come as no surprise to anyone. Haymon tugs on the the string and Sulaiman does a little dance. Al must have compromising photographs I reckon
I agree with you, since I feel the WBC have orchestrated an awful lot of poor opponents for Wilder's title defences. Who knows? Maybe Sulaiman and Haymon thought that 'The Bronze Bomber' captured the title too early and needed to be protected whilst he still learned his craft?
Other than his last two outings, Wilder’s resume is pretty dire for a fighter that has been a pro for more than a decade and also a world champion for more than four years.
Ssssshhhhh. Stop it EO. You mustn’t suggest that there is any collusion between that nice Mr Haymon and that nice Mr Sulaiman nor that they have acted in any way to protect the WBC Heavyweight Champion.
Deontay Wilder has always fought the very best contenders available, and has pursued unification fights with utmost vigour against Vitali, against Wlad, against Fury (or would have done had he not got stripped) against Martin, against Parker and against Joshua. He tried for several years to persuade Luis Ortiz to face him and eventually his persistence paid off.
It is not his fault that the aforementioned all ducked him, and some are continuing to duck him. His resume is second to none and anybody who suggests that any of this isn’t true is quite clearly a Wilder-hater and should be tarred and feathered.
Deontay is all about legacy. One name, one face, one champion. I know that to be true because he has said so many times, and you should know it too. Shame on you.
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
candyslim wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019, 04:52As for the boost up the rankings, i'm sure that would come as no surprise to anyone. Haymon tugs on the the string and Sulaiman does a little dance. Al must have compromising photographs I reckon
I agree with you, since I feel the WBC have orchestrated an awful lot of poor opponents for Wilder's title defences. Who knows? Maybe Sulaiman and Haymon thought that 'The Bronze Bomber' captured the title too early and needed to be protected whilst he still learned his craft?
Other than his last two outings, Wilder’s resume is pretty dire for a fighter that has been a pro for more than a decade and also a world champion for more than four years.
Ssssshhhhh. Stop it EO. You mustn’t suggest that there is any collusion between that nice Mr Haymon and that nice Mr Sulaiman nor that they have acted in any way to protect the WBC Heavyweight Champion.
Deontay Wilder has always fought the very best contenders available, and has pursued unification fights with utmost vigour against Vitali, against Wlad, against Fury (or would have done had he not got stripped) against Martin, against Parker and against Joshua. He tried for several years to persuade Luis Ortiz to face him and eventually his persistence paid off.
It is not his fault that the aforementioned all ducked him, and some are continuing to duck him. His resume is second to none and anybody who suggests that any of this isn’t true is quite clearly a Wilder-hater and should be tarred and feathered.
Deontay is all about legacy. One name, one face, one champion. I know that to be true because he has said so many times, and you should know it too. Shame on you.
Gad! I had to wipe the sarcasm from my laptop!
Re: Adam Kownacki vs. Gerald Washington - January 26, 2019
