Cassius Clay, "I'm Fighting Uncle Tom Patterson'

[gilgamesh]

I don't get what you guys are arguing about. Ali's trash talking against Floyd
is known to be public stunt. People here already quote books about it.
Ali did not torture Floyd, he did not even hit him that hard in the fight.

Basically one or two guys hate Ali and are forever trying to discredit him, and we're pointlessly trying to argue against them. They have their agenda, they'll go to the grave with it, and it's really not worth our time to pay anymore attention to these guys on this particular subject...but we probably will anyway.

Mr. G,

I take offense, I have never stated that I 'hate'........Cassius Clay, Cassius X or Muhammad Ali.

Maybe I won't have him over for Tea and Honey Graham Crackers, but I never said I 'hated' him.

On a lighter note, in February 1966 - Cassius tries on U.S. Army Gear.......

You don't have to say you hate Ali specifically for people to read between the lines Duce. It's in every post you make about him. If you're offended that I called you on it, then I don't know what to say about that Il Duce. I call it like I see it.

[p4p1]

Re trying on army boots in 1966 isn't it a fact that Ali used to do his road work I'm army boots because it made the running harder?

[gilgamesh]

Re trying on army boots in 1966 isn't it a fact that Ali used to do his road work I'm army boots because it made the running harder?

I think I had heard Joe Frazier did that, I'm not sure about Ali though.

[p4p1]

Re trying on army boots in 1966 isn't it a fact that Ali used to do his road work I'm army boots because it made the running harder?

I think I had heard Joe Frazier did that, I'm not sure about Ali though.

I'm sure Ali did it first I will have to have a look around the house at some of the books I have.

Edit: quick search on google shows pictures of him doing it and that many old time fighters did it believing I gave a better work out and the extra ankle support was a good thing.

[evrenb]

Ali often ran in his 'military boots'....this is clearly evident on many training clips of Ali. From memory you can see this in 'when we were kings'. As to who done it first Im not sure.
Regarding the Patterson fight I dont know what the issue is anyway; this is boxing not 'the lovers guide'. Note to Il Douche..this book is not a DIY manual...

[ThatOne]

Referee - Harold Krause,

'Everytime that Cassius would land several good punches, he would look over the ropes
and taunted the fans who were 'rooting for Floyd'.

'Cassius felt that if you were for anybody but him you were a 'racist' or an Uncle Tom. It
was an embarrassing situation that night. For God's Sake, they even introduced Sonny Liston
before the fight, and he was boo'd beyond belief.

'People were screaming at Sonny, 'Hey Sonny, the pool is outside not at Ringside'.

In reference to his 'two dives' in his fights with Cassius Clay.

Let's do the old google search trick.

Enters

"Cassius felt that if you were for anybody but him you were a 'racist' or an Uncle Tom. It
was an embarrassing situation that night. For God's Sake, they even introduced Sonny Liston
before the fight, and he was boo'd beyond belief."


into the venerable google search machine:

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Results



No results found for 'Cassius felt that if you were for anybody but him you were a 'racist' or an Uncle Tom. It was an embarrassing situation that night. For God's Sake, they even introduced Sonny Liston before the fight, and he was boo'd beyond belief.



https://www.google.com/#q='Cassius+felt ... ond+belief.

"This cat's so cool we can't find anything bad to say about him so we'll just make crap up."

-Il Duce

[ThatOne]

I think asking mr Duce to stop hating Ali would be impossible.
But at least could you please tell us where the quote come from?
This is your only problems, I know you used to post in other forum,
and always have problems about not citing any thing.
I don't mind critic thread, but it is just baseless hate thread
, if we don't know if info is real or not.

Personally, I think Ali just played heel to get more money.
His mistake in early life is joing extreme religious group.
But in that era with such a big race problem, you can't
really blame him.

I never liked the NOI and their racist and segregationist politics. But you have to be a moron to not see how a black man who grew up in a racist America could find it appealing.

[gilgamesh]

Hey Mr. That One,

I'm Italian.

Do you think I never was discriminated against.....

'Man, I Ain't Got No Quarrel With Them Viet-Cong'

'No Viet Cong Ever Called My Wop'

Do you see how this works. A 'selective argument'.

No You weren't discriminated against by them. You may have been sent out to murder them or get murdered by them, but that's more your own government's fault than the Viet-Cong's.

[Bobbyptsd]

16 pages of this nonsense?


Really?


I mean I get it, Il Duce doesn't like Ali.

[gilgamesh]

16 pages of this nonsense?


Really?


I mean I get it, Il Duce doesn't like Ali.

Yeah I know, I know. I'm guilty for at least 1 page of all this

[ThatOne]

Hey Mr. That One,

I'm Italian.

Do you think I never was discriminated against.....

'Man, I Ain't Got No Quarrel With Them Viet-Cong'

'No Viet-Cong Ever Called My Wop'

Do you see how this works. A 'selective argument'.

Are you comparing the Italian experience in the United States with the black experience?

Last I checked Italians came here voluntarily and not on slave ships and they didn't need three amendments and numerous laws passed by Congress to give them the same rights white folks took for granted.

[ThatOne]

A search of

"Right next to me was Chris Dundee, the brother of Angele Dundee who was Cassius Clay's
Trainer. They knew Floyd was hurt yet they were making fun of him, calling him an old man
who needed a 6-Foot Ladder to get to 6 feet."

turns up:


Your search - Right next to me was Chris Dundee, the brother of Angele Dundee who was Cassius Clay ... - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:

Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
Try different keywords.
Try more general keywords.
Try fewer keywords.
Search Results


https://www.google.com/#q=Right+next+to ... +to+6+feet.'

[Giancarlo]

Hey Mr. That One,

I'm Italian.

Do you think I never was discriminated against.....

'Man, I Ain't Got No Quarrel With Them Viet-Cong'

'No Viet-Cong Ever Called My Wop'

Do you see how this works. A 'selective argument'.

Are you comparing the Italian experience in the United States with the black experience?

Last I checked Italians came here voluntarily and not on slave ships and they didn't need three amendments and numerous laws passed by Congress to give them the same rights white folks took for granted.

If you check History,

There is a reason for that.

You really are a simpleton.

[ThatOne]

Hey Mr. That One,

I'm Italian.

Do you think I never was discriminated against.....

'Man, I Ain't Got No Quarrel With Them Viet-Cong'

'No Viet-Cong Ever Called My Wop'

Do you see how this works. A 'selective argument'.

Are you comparing the Italian experience in the United States with the black experience?

Last I checked Italians came here voluntarily and not on slave ships and they didn't need three amendments and numerous laws passed by Congress to give them the same rights white folks took for granted.

If you check History,

There is a reason for that.

They were economic refugees. That's not the same as being brought here on slave ships.

[ThatOne]

And,

Just who were selling slaves in Africa.........

The Good Humor Man.

If a human being sells another human being that doesn't alleviate the moral burden of the buyer.

[ThatOne]

And,

Just who were selling slaves in Africa.........

The Good Humor Man.

If a human being sells another human being that doesn't alleviate the moral burden of the buyer.

Yea, and I know some places in Chicago where Cassius and his buddies used to go to get 'Ass for Sale' chicks too.

Who was 'peddling that ass'.........

It didn't seem to bother 'Young Cassius' on picking up some cheap 'Slave Chicks'.

Cassius Clay............Moral Hero.............

I'm going to need a citation that an alpha male like Muhammad Ali ever paid for pussy...

And there's a difference between renting and buying and borrowing and owning. When you Pick up some strumpet and give her twenty dollar for oral pleasures you have merely contracted for her time...

Any way I know the GOAT lost his virginity to a black prostitute when he was about sixteen or seventeen. It's in his autobiography, As the story goes a young Cassius and one of his friends picked up two prostitutes; one black and one white, and young Cassius chose the black one

Big deal... John Kennedy lost his virginity in a Harlem brothel when he was seventeen years old.

[BoxBuzz]

Too much heat, not enough light.

It's time to chill.