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Stevieaber wrote: ↑05 Jul 2021, 11:39 Summons issued by US Court against Daniel Kinahan according to story in Irish paper the Sunday World. The report states that a guilty verdict can be issued if reply isnt received within 21 days. Bit crap with technology, so cant include a link.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑05 Jul 2021, 11:49

Stevieaber wrote: ↑05 Jul 2021, 11:39 Summons issued by US Court against Daniel Kinahan according to story in Irish paper the Sunday World. The report states that a guilty verdict can be issued if reply isnt received within 21 days. Bit crap with technology, so cant include a link.

https://www.insider.com/daniel-kinahan- ... ons-2021-6

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑05 Jul 2021, 16:08 Was just giving him the link

Stevieaber wrote: ↑06 Jul 2021, 06:12 Agree that the initial case itself doesn’t amount to much, just contemplating the possible effects of having the summons printed in the Dubai papers and a US court viewing evidence (or allegations) that Kinahan is still involved with MTK when reportedly on a list of narco terrorists. Would very much assume that he isn’t going to the US to fight the case, so potentially this is going to be found against him.
That being said, it could all go away with a big pay out (and money clearly isn’t a problem) so may all come to nothing. Just thought it worth keeping an eye on.

brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Feb 2021, 12:50 after all this chat still what is the point of this though , is it just gangsters in boxing but theres loads of gangsters in boxing since day dot. gangster is just another term for businessman , or is it that there drug dealers killers and cause harm, well they have been around a long time now why is it now only the concern ,that means to me that the government think as long as they stay in there working class communities they will turn a blind eye and dont care surely that is a bigger and more disgusting point to this documentry , if any thing programs like love hate promote and glorify violence far more than some now boring advisor role. people copy gangsters of tv from goodfellas to gomorrah to love hate to rocky, so i dont get what they want to happen

GreenLightning wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 10:55 They treat their fighters well high? Wonder where they get the money for that, Frampton had no advisory charges at all? Good for boxers in the sense that he has enough heroin money to give them some coin, but the man is the head of an international drug syndicate with a body count a mile long

Promoters aren't trusted because they tend to be greedy liars, but this guy has a mixture of a love of boxing, and deep deep pockets from his drug and weapons dealing empire, he's not just a liar , he's an international gangster who has killed many innocent people, where do we draw the fornicating line? I mean they work with Saudi Arabia so of course money talks

GreenLightning wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 10:55 They treat their fighters well high? Wonder where they get the money for that, Frampton had no advisory charges at all? Good for boxers in the sense that he has enough heroin money to give them some coin, but the man is the head of an international drug syndicate with a body count a mile long

Promoters aren't trusted because they tend to be greedy liars, but this guy has a mixture of a love of boxing, and deep deep pockets from his drug and weapons dealing empire, he's not just a liar , he's an international gangster who has killed many innocent people, where do we draw the fornicating line? I mean they work with Saudi Arabia so of course money talks

Stevieaber wrote: ↑22 Jul 2021, 05:23 You seem to brush off innocent people being shot by mistake quite easily, which is a strange point of view. If people weren’t spraying bullets around indiscriminately this wouldn’t happen at all.
It doesn’t affect me directly as I don’t live in Ireland or associate with crims, but must be an issue for the poor sods who live in the same areas as this lot and who risk getting holes blown in them when they decide it’s time to start blasting each other.

polecateddy wrote: ↑22 Jul 2021, 08:32 Kinahan is the last senior super-cartel member not currently in jail after Richard ‘El Rico’ Riquelme Vega got 11 years for drug trafficking in the Netherlands last month. I would imagine the net is gradually closing in. Extradition has been used from Arabic countries before if prosecutors feel they have a good enough case. It would be surprising if the authorities don’t catch up with him sooner rather than later.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑21 Jul 2021, 22:43

GreenLightning wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 10:55 They treat their fighters well high? Wonder where they get the money for that, Frampton had no advisory charges at all? Good for boxers in the sense that he has enough heroin money to give them some coin, but the man is the head of an international drug syndicate with a body count a mile long

Promoters aren't trusted because they tend to be greedy liars, but this guy has a mixture of a love of boxing, and deep deep pockets from his drug and weapons dealing empire, he's not just a liar , he's an international gangster who has killed many innocent people, where do we draw the fornicating line? I mean they work with Saudi Arabia so of course money talks

You're making claims on Kinahan that haven't been substantiated. How can someone run such an organizational and have zero convictions? What innocent people have been killed? I know some innocent lads did get shot in mistaken identity which is horrific but it was mistaken identity. It wasn't like they went out to get innocent lads as far as I know but I am willing to be corrected.

If people are in the drug game then they know the lifestyle they are in. And by the way Jamie Moore was shot and almost killed and according to the papers that was meant for Kinahan. If someone has tried to shoot and kill me I would definitely take exception to it and I'm sure everyone here would do the same. And I'm only indulging in your allegations which are unsubstantiated. The man has been great for boxing and that's a fact.

danconnollyeire wrote: ↑06 Jul 2021, 06:27

Stevieaber wrote: ↑06 Jul 2021, 06:12 Agree that the initial case itself doesn’t amount to much, just contemplating the possible effects of having the summons printed in the Dubai papers and a US court viewing evidence (or allegations) that Kinahan is still involved with MTK when reportedly on a list of narco terrorists. Would very much assume that he isn’t going to the US to fight the case, so potentially this is going to be found against him.
That being said, it could all go away with a big pay out (and money clearly isn’t a problem) so may all come to nothing. Just thought it worth keeping an eye on.

Nah the US are different when it comes to drug bosses. They won't take pay offs... all part of their so called 'war on drugs'. They've gone after El Chapo and Escabar in the past

a force wrote: ↑23 Jul 2021, 05:59

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑21 Jul 2021, 22:43

GreenLightning wrote: ↑16 Jul 2021, 10:55 They treat their fighters well high? Wonder where they get the money for that, Frampton had no advisory charges at all? Good for boxers in the sense that he has enough heroin money to give them some coin, but the man is the head of an international drug syndicate with a body count a mile long

Promoters aren't trusted because they tend to be greedy liars, but this guy has a mixture of a love of boxing, and deep deep pockets from his drug and weapons dealing empire, he's not just a liar , he's an international gangster who has killed many innocent people, where do we draw the fornicating line? I mean they work with Saudi Arabia so of course money talks

You're making claims on Kinahan that haven't been substantiated. How can someone run such an organizational and have zero convictions? What innocent people have been killed? I know some innocent lads did get shot in mistaken identity which is horrific but it was mistaken identity. It wasn't like they went out to get innocent lads as far as I know but I am willing to be corrected.

If people are in the drug game then they know the lifestyle they are in. And by the way Jamie Moore was shot and almost killed and according to the papers that was meant for Kinahan. If someone has tried to shoot and kill me I would definitely take exception to it and I'm sure everyone here would do the same. And I'm only indulging in your allegations which are unsubstantiated. The man has been great for boxing and that's a fact.

That’s certainly not a fact. He’s been horrendous for boxing. Just because some fighters have taken the blood & drugs money & speak highly of him doesn’t change the real fact that Ireland isn’t having any professional boxing because of him.

He’s killing boxing over there. Unless Irish fighters are really talented & can get picked up by an American or British promoter they’re basically facing a choice of either sign with a murderer or get out of the sport.

How can a young Irish boxer ever build a following whilst Kinahan’s involved in the sport? They can’t do shows at home. Barring a few heavyweights & big names most of our boxers do well because of an initial hometown support. Imagine Warrington, Froch, Crolla, Bellew, Brook, Burns, Ritson, Coyle, Fielding etc. without hometown support. They wouldn’t have had careers like they had. They might have even drifted away from the sport.