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Couldn’t agree more with CEJ

ya, not exactly the performance that gives ed's prediction much credibility

i have been impressed by cash till now, but some worrying moments against a guy who doesnt bang. i expected madiev to put up a tough fight, but not by dropping cash multiple times. i hope for cash's sake all the personal calamity he's been through contributed a bit to it, and that he can put that behind him and come back better

I had DJ to be knocked down and win, £100 from about £15. That badly effected my viewing I think. Cos I was certain he was on his way over at points and certain he’d won on points at the end

Seriously tho, that’s why I think happened. I ended up with either 8 or 9 rounds to DJ. Didn’t hesitate when scoring anything

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 20:02 ya, not exactly the performance that gives ed's prediction much credibility

i have been impressed by cash till now, but some worrying moments against a guy who doesnt bang. i expected madiev to put up a tough fight, but not by dropping cash multiple times. i hope for cash's sake all the personal calamity he's been through contributed a bit to it, and that he can put that behind him and come back better

i would take cash over ebjr everyday of the week

brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 20:06

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 20:02 ya, not exactly the performance that gives ed's prediction much credibility

i have been impressed by cash till now, but some worrying moments against a guy who doesnt bang. i expected madiev to put up a tough fight, but not by dropping cash multiple times. i hope for cash's sake all the personal calamity he's been through contributed a bit to it, and that he can put that behind him and come back better

i would take cash over ebjr everyday of the week

down multiple times vs a nonpuncher and just survives it - how does that give you such confidence?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 20:07

brilo33 wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 20:06

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 20:02 ya, not exactly the performance that gives ed's prediction much credibility

i have been impressed by cash till now, but some worrying moments against a guy who doesnt bang. i expected madiev to put up a tough fight, but not by dropping cash multiple times. i hope for cash's sake all the personal calamity he's been through contributed a bit to it, and that he can put that behind him and come back better

i would take cash over ebjr everyday of the week

down multiple times vs a nonpuncher and just survives it - how does that give you such confidence?

them punches werent non puncher punches tho the first one was a big shot , cash left his chin out he was lucky to survive i thought , and in 12th i think he was gassing more then hurt, and if he goes in to a fight with eubank i assumse it wont be 2 years out of the ring , hes tough cash

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 19:43 jacobs only clearly won 2 and 3....so you should be okay with an 118-110 card for ryder then?

Na i wouldent love it.. Im saying there are 2 rounds that would be unforgivable to go against jacobs.

So a 118-110 scorecard could have no rounds that i think are unforgivabley scored i guess, but i would say the odd of coming to that card fairly are very very very very small and therefor suss as fornicate and almost certainly crook.

maverick23 wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 17:34

ironbeard wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 17:27 Cash is as dirty as it gets and he has obviously been trained at it.

The ref stunk.

Anyone with a top level beard and power puts Cash to sleep.

He’ll be in some fun fights. Him against Williams and Fowler would be great. Eubank would beat him with the lead left hook but Cash is rarely in a bad fight so is fine by me.

He’s a nasty fighter and knows all the tricks. Doesn’t bother me a great deal as the holding/DDT was needed at the end so he did what he had to to win.

I agree about the tricks. My problem is more with the ref. It is his responsibility to regulate the nasty stuff.

Cash did enough to win. He is an entertaining fighter.

The ref allowed him to get away with far too much.

If you watch the final presser closely, you will notice that Jacobs tips us off that he understands what was coming. Jacobs is the definition of professional. He knows the score before it is announced.

Old bones Ian wrote: ↑12 Feb 2022, 19:22 And that's why top boxers don't want to box in the UK

That and the leatherface fight.
Two home town decisions for all the world to see.
Jacobs is too nice s bloke for that to be done to him.

ironbeard wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 00:30 If you watch the final presser closely, you will notice that Jacobs tips us off that he understands what was coming. Jacobs is the definition of professional. He knows the score before it is announced.

Spot on.

A good fight. I had nothing against the decision, as I had it even. It was a quite bad performance by the standards of Jacobs. It looks like he's past prime.

DrDuke wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 03:57 A good fight. I had nothing against the decision, as I had it even. It was a quite bad performance by the standards of Jacobs. It looks like he's past prime.

He looked very old by the end of round 8. I've been saying GGG took something out of him, but tonight I was pleasantly surprised he was sharp for the first 6, when I expected less of him.

Yet to watch the fight, but three split 115-113 scores doesn't suggest the cards were filled out before the 1st bell.

Radio five live team all had it very close, Bunce had Jacobs by 2 points and McIntosh & Woodhall had it even going into the 12th.

Bunce said before the decision was announced he'd have no problem with the result going either way by a few points, but would be getting worked up if a 118-110 or something similar shows up. It didn't.

Off they go again with Britian being a crooked place to get a result What nationality was the judge who scored it for Jacobs

Argentinian Diego Ruiz walked away with a gift draw against a touted house fighter only the night before at York Hall.

The problem is that I haven’t yet seen anyone say they gave Ryder 7 rounds.

Jacobs won 2-6 and 12 clearly. Can’t wait to see the scorecards because someone will have given Ryder a round be tween 2 and 6 I’m sure.

One of the judges had it level after 6 rounds…….

The consensus is clearly in favour of Jacobs. It still doesn't mean it was the wrong or a bad decision necessarily. Just how the judges saw it from their viewpoint.

It was a dreadful decision. Jacobs could only win that fight by KO.

He was behind on the scorecards after 8 rounds FFS……

The 5th one was decent for Ryder.

Jacobs went awful since the 7th.

The last couple was quite close.

I'm not sure why Jacobs corner didn't tell him to really win 11th big , as they seemed almost over calm with him as if they thought he had it won.

It’s a bad decision but I wouldn’t class in a robbery. To give it Ryder you’re giving him the benefit of the doubt in every exchange and every close round.
Talk of getting Canelo to Wembley for Ryder though was bizarre. Is that going to be before Bicol and Golovkin? After? In between? Same night?

Hearn: If Canelo Wants To Fight In The UK, He's Got The Perfect Opponent In John Ryder

“Yeah, I think, look, Saul obviously wants to fight in the UK,” Hearn said in the ring following the most noteworthy win of Ryder’s career. “He’s got his plans prepared and nearly locked in for this year. But I think if he wants to fight in the UK, he’s got the perfect opponent. You know, I don’t see any other super middleweights in their country have standout victories like that. John Ryder just beat Daniel Jacobs tonight. You know, and it was his attrition that got him through that fight, his desire to win that fight. And he’s been on the end of a lot of bad decisions. Tonight was a very close fight, could’ve gone either way. But it was one that went his way.

“And when you look back at his career, on the times when he might not have got the decision, tonight he deserved the decision. And it’s a massive win for him because [Ryder’s handlers] have put a lot of pressure on us to deliver. We brought Daniel Jacobs to Alexandra Palace tonight. As [trainer] Tony [Sims] says, Daniel Jacobs has lost to Gennadiy Golovkin and Canelo Alvarez. But tonight he lost to John Ryder. And, of course, it’s a massive victory for John Ryder and I hope he goes on to fight for a world title, because he really deserves it.”

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 05:18 The consensus is clearly in favour of Jacobs. It still doesn't mean it was the wrong or a bad decision necessarily. Just how the judges saw it from their viewpoint.

I didn’t personally watch this, but this is a great point.

Each view in boxing is different I.e. watching the Tv is different to the cheap seats in the arena, the ringside view is different view to the mid priced range seats.

The judges are up close and personnel, they can see a lot more than the TV probably shows with all the different camera angles.

Foggy wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 12:00

THEBUTCH wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 05:18 The consensus is clearly in favour of Jacobs. It still doesn't mean it was the wrong or a bad decision necessarily. Just how the judges saw it from their viewpoint.

I didn’t personally watch this, but this is a great point.

Each view in boxing is different I.e. watching the Tv is different to the cheap seats in the arena, the ringside view is different view to the mid priced range seats.

The judges are up close and personnel, they can see a lot more than the TV probably shows with all the different camera angles.

Whilst we’re being so insightful and considering all the factors, let’s also mention that Ryder was the home fighter and the promoter is responsible for the hospitality of the judges, which is is a potential factor of relevance. For, it would be rude to bite the hand that feeds you and paying the sanctioning fees, possibly...

By the way fellow Boxreccers, can we make some sort of pact that Skye Nicolson slander won't be tolerated ever, even if she happens to be dogshit, we should all agree to either bullshit or just keep quiet, she is elite