Re: Sonny Liston (1963) vs. current HWs ?
Posted: 03 Jun 2020, 15:59
Question is to EO.
Question is to EO.
Answer this question and then I'll show you the same courtesy by answering yours.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑03 Jun 2020, 14:41Who wins in your opinion
Sonny liston 1963 version vs prime david price?
Hey, nobody ever defended better with a gun shot in them.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 04:35 There was a Liston vs Fury thread in the mythical fights section, that's where we saw the birth of Slick Cleveland Williams, who was supposedly an elusive defensive master when Sonny fought him![]()
Jeff, ah, no he won't.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 03:56Answer this question and then I'll show you the same courtesy by answering yours.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑03 Jun 2020, 14:41Who wins in your opinion
Sonny liston 1963 version vs prime david price?
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 03:56Answer this question and then I'll show you the same courtesy by answering yours.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑03 Jun 2020, 14:41Who wins in your opinion
Sonny liston 1963 version vs prime david price?
• Is size irrelevant when evaluating how well the 1963 version of Sonny Liston would fare against current heavyweights, especially considering the fact Tyson Fury is a few years younger than he was back then, coupled with being eight inches taller and roughly sixty pounds heavier?
This is the twelfth time I've asked people to comment on the size difference between Liston & Fury (via the same set of questions pretty much written word-for-word) and every single person has flatly-refused to answer it.
No one has been brave enough, so far, to even recognise the fact I posed such a question, despite the fact it’s on-topic (i.e. Liston vs. the current top heavyweight)!
Even you have previously behaved cowardly, by refusing to answer this rather simple question! So you clearly don’t deserve to possess any sense of entitlement for me to adhere to your demands!
Many of us have said they'd favor Fury over Liston. EO is well, EO.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 12:09Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 03:56
Answer this question and then I'll show you the same courtesy by answering yours.
• Is size irrelevant when evaluating how well the 1963 version of Sonny Liston would fare against current heavyweights, especially considering the fact Tyson Fury is a few years younger than he was back then, coupled with being eight inches taller and roughly sixty pounds heavier?
This is the twelfth time I've asked people to comment on the size difference between Liston & Fury (via the same set of questions pretty much written word-for-word) and every single person has flatly-refused to answer it.
No one has been brave enough, so far, to even recognise the fact I posed such a question, despite the fact it’s on-topic (i.e. Liston vs. the current top heavyweight)!
Even you have previously behaved cowardly, by refusing to answer this rather simple question! So you clearly don’t deserve to possess any sense of entitlement for me to adhere to your demands!
Tyson fury is very skilled. A skilled bigger fighter beats the skilled smaller fighter
Most people feel that way since liston is by no means in first in this poll.
I addressed all your statements quoted in an earlier post on this thread
He won't answer you, but he will give you a creative response as to why he won't answer you. Hint: It will have something to do with EO seeing a perceived failure in you.
At a certain point, weight like experience, doesn't do anything more for you.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 12:09Enlightened-One wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 03:56
Answer this question and then I'll show you the same courtesy by answering yours.
• Is size irrelevant when evaluating how well the 1963 version of Sonny Liston would fare against current heavyweights, especially considering the fact Tyson Fury is a few years younger than he was back then, coupled with being eight inches taller and roughly sixty pounds heavier?
This is the twelfth time I've asked people to comment on the size difference between Liston & Fury (via the same set of questions pretty much written word-for-word) and every single person has flatly-refused to answer it.
No one has been brave enough, so far, to even recognise the fact I posed such a question, despite the fact it’s on-topic (i.e. Liston vs. the current top heavyweight)!
Even you have previously behaved cowardly, by refusing to answer this rather simple question! So you clearly don’t deserve to possess any sense of entitlement for me to adhere to your demands!
Tyson fury is very skilled. A skilled bigger fighter beats the skilled smaller fighter
Most people feel that way since liston is by no means in first in this poll.
I addressed all your statements quoted in an earlier post on this thread
I have Liston as an all time great, but to say that he was better skilled in almost every department is debatable at best. More power, yes. Better jab? Yes. Fury is the better mover and has better hand and foot speed amongst other things.Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 12:23At a certain point, weight like experience, doesn't do anything more for you.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 12:09
Tyson fury is very skilled. A skilled bigger fighter beats the skilled smaller fighter
Most people feel that way since liston is by no means in first in this poll.
I addressed all your statements quoted in an earlier post on this thread
Liston is much more skilled than Fury. He was better in almost every department.
Fury got a draw against Wilder when he weighed less than Liston did in 1963.
Liston was much more skilled than Wilder.
Fury is very light on his feet for such a huge guy. I think hed confuse liston like he confuses everyone. Hes got a very effective styleAmbling Alp II wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 12:23At a certain point, weight like experience, doesn't do anything more for you.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 12:09
Tyson fury is very skilled. A skilled bigger fighter beats the skilled smaller fighter
Most people feel that way since liston is by no means in first in this poll.
I addressed all your statements quoted in an earlier post on this thread
Liston is much more skilled than Fury. He was better in almost every department.
Fury got a draw against Wilder when he weighed less than Liston did in 1963.
Liston was much more skilled than Wilder.
Riddick Blowe wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 13:27 I don’t think I’ve ever seen any troll humoured more than EO, so I guess he has accomplished something after all. I wouldn’t be surprised to see this thread go another 17 pages repeating the same poo.
By the way price wins because he’s bigger. Did I do good EO?
Light on his feet for such a huge guy. Not that light on his feet compared to an average sized heavyweight. He's no Ali. He would be fighting someone who has at least twice the work rate of Wilder. Liston would get to him.Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 12:47Fury is very light on his feet for such a huge guy. I think hed confuse liston like he confuses everyone. Hes got a very effective styleAmbling Alp II wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 12:23
At a certain point, weight like experience, doesn't do anything more for you.
Liston is much more skilled than Fury. He was better in almost every department.
Fury got a draw against Wilder when he weighed less than Liston did in 1963.
Liston was much more skilled than Wilder.
Fury has more guts too. Getting up after that wilder knockdown took cojones liston never hadoogiebe wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 12:37I have Liston as an all time great, but to say that he was better skilled in almost every department is debatable at best. More power, yes. Better jab? Yes. Fury is the better mover and has better hand and foot speed amongst other things.Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑04 Jun 2020, 12:23
At a certain point, weight like experience, doesn't do anything more for you.
Liston is much more skilled than Fury. He was better in almost every department.
Fury got a draw against Wilder when he weighed less than Liston did in 1963.
Liston was much more skilled than Wilder.
Funny, I always think of him as the exact opposite of that - a nerdy ultra-serious kid trying to lecture adults because he’s read some stats, but who’s not actually had the accompanying life experience to really understand them.