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maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 12:32

stevec@france wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 12:15

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 10:31

Would you be happy with Fury/Charr?

no worse than any of the other tomato cans fury has had

1 fight in 4 years for Charr. It’s amazing that Bob’s even mentioned him as a possibility.

Normally promoters mention a few fighters and it’s usually the worst fighter in the list that gets the fight. Perhaps Bob has thrown Charr into the mix so people are happy if he faces Helenius. Who knows.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 12:16 Tyson Fury v Dillian Whyte: Eddie Hearn says purse bids set for Friday but March date 'unrealistic'

Tyson Fury v Dillian Whyte is unlikely to happen in March with the purse bids now set for Friday, according to Eddie Hearn.

Mandatory challenger Whyte has been unable to agree to terms with Fury after the WBC ordered an 80/20 purse split in favour of the reigning champion.

Speaking to the 5 Live Boxing podcast, Hearn said: "People keep talking about March dates - that's starting to look unrealistic for a fight of this magnitude."

Fury's co-promoter allegedly told BBC Sport last week that the targeted date was 26 March, but Hearn says April is far more likely.

"Either March, April, early May potentially," added Hearn. "This is the window for the fight. Depends what happens this week.

"There are so many conversations going on behind the scenes right now. Something could turn at any moment."

Whyte, 33, is currently in a dispute with the sanctioning body WBC after their purse-split announcement and also the time it took for the British heavyweight to receive his shot at the world title.

Hearn, who works with Whyte, says despite the disagreements between the two camps and the WBC, the fight will still go ahead.

"You're talking about a lot of money - a difference of 25%," Hearn said about the issue.

"The normal split for any mandatory challenger is a lot more than 80/20. The normal split for an interim champion is up to 45%. We feel in terms of the commercial value of Dillian Whyte and the time he's had to wait, 80/20 is quite ridiculous really."

He added: "[It] looks like Dillian Whyte will definitely get his shot at the WBC title, but we have to fight for his rights and make sure it's fair. It's not going to stand in the way of the fight."

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:01

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 12:16 Tyson Fury v Dillian Whyte: Eddie Hearn says purse bids set for Friday but March date 'unrealistic'

Tyson Fury v Dillian Whyte is unlikely to happen in March with the purse bids now set for Friday, according to Eddie Hearn.

Mandatory challenger Whyte has been unable to agree to terms with Fury after the WBC ordered an 80/20 purse split in favour of the reigning champion.

Speaking to the 5 Live Boxing podcast, Hearn said: "People keep talking about March dates - that's starting to look unrealistic for a fight of this magnitude."

Fury's co-promoter allegedly told BBC Sport last week that the targeted date was 26 March, but Hearn says April is far more likely.

"Either March, April, early May potentially," added Hearn. "This is the window for the fight. Depends what happens this week.

"There are so many conversations going on behind the scenes right now. Something could turn at any moment."

Whyte, 33, is currently in a dispute with the sanctioning body WBC after their purse-split announcement and also the time it took for the British heavyweight to receive his shot at the world title.

Hearn, who works with Whyte, says despite the disagreements between the two camps and the WBC, the fight will still go ahead.

"You're talking about a lot of money - a difference of 25%," Hearn said about the issue.

"The normal split for any mandatory challenger is a lot more than 80/20. The normal split for an interim champion is up to 45%. We feel in terms of the commercial value of Dillian Whyte and the time he's had to wait, 80/20 is quite ridiculous really."

He added: "[It] looks like Dillian Whyte will definitely get his shot at the WBC title, but we have to fight for his rights and make sure it's fair. It's not going to stand in the way of the fight."

Reading that, there is no way Fury fights Whyte. I’d take bets on it.

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:19

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:01

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 12:16 Tyson Fury v Dillian Whyte: Eddie Hearn says purse bids set for Friday but March date 'unrealistic'

Tyson Fury v Dillian Whyte is unlikely to happen in March with the purse bids now set for Friday, according to Eddie Hearn.

Mandatory challenger Whyte has been unable to agree to terms with Fury after the WBC ordered an 80/20 purse split in favour of the reigning champion.

Speaking to the 5 Live Boxing podcast, Hearn said: "People keep talking about March dates - that's starting to look unrealistic for a fight of this magnitude."

Fury's co-promoter allegedly told BBC Sport last week that the targeted date was 26 March, but Hearn says April is far more likely.

"Either March, April, early May potentially," added Hearn. "This is the window for the fight. Depends what happens this week.

"There are so many conversations going on behind the scenes right now. Something could turn at any moment."

Whyte, 33, is currently in a dispute with the sanctioning body WBC after their purse-split announcement and also the time it took for the British heavyweight to receive his shot at the world title.

Hearn, who works with Whyte, says despite the disagreements between the two camps and the WBC, the fight will still go ahead.

"You're talking about a lot of money - a difference of 25%," Hearn said about the issue.

"The normal split for any mandatory challenger is a lot more than 80/20. The normal split for an interim champion is up to 45%. We feel in terms of the commercial value of Dillian Whyte and the time he's had to wait, 80/20 is quite ridiculous really."

He added: "[It] looks like Dillian Whyte will definitely get his shot at the WBC title, but we have to fight for his rights and make sure it's fair. It's not going to stand in the way of the fight."

Reading that, there is no way Fury fights Whyte. I’d take bets on it.

Why though? Because Fury will only fight on a Top Rank show?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:00

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 12:32

stevec@france wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 12:15

no worse than any of the other tomato cans fury has had

1 fight in 4 years for Charr. It’s amazing that Bob’s even mentioned him as a possibility.

Normally promoters mention a few fighters and it’s usually the worst fighter in the list that gets the fight. Perhaps Bob has thrown Charr into the mix so people are happy if he faces Helenius. Who knows.

It's clever..

Then people say, 'could have been worse, could have been [Dave Rhino Allen ].

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:24

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:19

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:01

Reading that, there is no way Fury fights Whyte. I’d take bets on it.

Why though? Because Fury will only fight on a Top Rank show?

Because they will never get the money that Whyte and Hearn think they deserve.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:27 Surely Hearn won't get a penny if he loses the bid. He's not his manager.

stevec@france wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:28

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:00

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 12:32

1 fight in 4 years for Charr. It’s amazing that Bob’s even mentioned him as a possibility.

Normally promoters mention a few fighters and it’s usually the worst fighter in the list that gets the fight. Perhaps Bob has thrown Charr into the mix so people are happy if he faces Helenius. Who knows.

It's clever..

Then people say, 'could have been worse, could have been [Dave Rhino Allen ].

Fury doesnt want to fight Whyte - its so obvious

stevec@france wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:42 Ok so I am mental

Whyte will hurt Fury if they meet .
He may not win the fight especillly over 12 - but Fury will get dropped just like he did V Wilder and maybe this time doesnt beat the count .

mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:37

stevec@france wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:28

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:00

It's clever..

Then people say, 'could have been worse, could have been [Dave Rhino Allen ].

Fury doesnt want to fight Whyte - its so obvious

I don't think they want to risk boxing on another channel, which is a bit odd because Hearn isn't great in purse bids. Whyte is a very easy fight for Fury, to suggest he's bothered about him is mental.

magnus wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 14:13 Jesus H. Christ. This is all so fornicating tiresome.

This time last year it was the Fury-AJ saga - now this.

To add to this, the Usyk-Joshua rematch still isn't finalised, despite the first fight taking place months ago, with a built in rematch clause.

We'll be lucky to see any of these fighting in the first 6 months of the year.

I'm really thankful that I discovered MMA a few years ago, at least I can watch the best fight the best in the UFC on a regular basis.

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:30

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:24

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:19

Why though? Because Fury will only fight on a Top Rank show?

Because they will never get the money that Whyte and Hearn think they deserve.

Let it just go to purse bids and if it’s not enough for Whyte then he should be thrown out of the rankings and Tyson should move on.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 05:34

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 03:40 lol, imagine aj vs whyte for undisputed, fury fans would be driven mad, we'd be hearing 'ring magazine' and 'lineal' every f@cking minute

Why are you obsessed with Fury fans?

daz74 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 14:31 This will go to Purse, Hearn will throw a wad of cash on it to launch DAZN PPV. A few weeks before the fight Fury will cry off saying he’s injured.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 14:46

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:30

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:24

Because they will never get the money that Whyte and Hearn think they deserve.

Let it just go to purse bids and if it’s not enough for Whyte then he should be thrown out of the rankings and Tyson should move on.

They ain’t happy with 80-20. They ain’t happy with 5mil guarantee. They don’t really want the fight that’s there to be had. Fury’s never been a huge money fight. He might be the top man but the moneys always been with AJ.

Fury is the kind of guy who wants C grade fights while waiting for the big ones, he’s waiting on Usyk or AJ. That’s where the money is.

skanksta wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 16:13

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 14:46

maverick23 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 13:30

Let it just go to purse bids and if it’s not enough for Whyte then he should be thrown out of the rankings and Tyson should move on.

They ain’t happy with 80-20. They ain’t happy with 5mil guarantee. They don’t really want the fight that’s there to be had. Fury’s never been a huge money fight. He might be the top man but the moneys always been with AJ.

Fury is the kind of guy who wants C grade fights while waiting for the big ones, he’s waiting on Usyk or AJ. That’s where the money is.

Do you know what the fight might be expected to gross ?
Or does anyone else ?

Surely 5m guaranteed is better for The BodySnatcher ? Even £3m is set for a comfortable life - he’s gotta sign the ting !

Manchester Hitman wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 16:07

daz74 wrote: ↑17 Jan 2022, 14:31 This will go to Purse, Hearn will throw a wad of cash on it to launch DAZN PPV. A few weeks before the fight Fury will cry off saying he’s injured.

Believe it or not, Eddie is actually operating under a budget. Matchroom/ Barry Hearn are also accountants by trade- the idea that they are just going to throw cash at it for the sake of it is not realistic IMO. It’s not monopoly or Saudi oil money he has on tap.

AJ v Usyk 2 is supposedly soon, that needs paying for. Canelo is scheduled for May - Eddie will need money to try to get him back on on DAZN.

Neither side can afford this going to bids. Arum & Bricktop wanted to protect themselves financially by offering the guarantee- that goes out the window in a bid. Eddie/DAZN would have to fork out 40-50m minimum in order to stand any chance, which is bonkers.