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Yair acting a bit of a fool in the aftermath...

Tinnie wrote: ↑21 Sep 2019, 22:39 Professional masterclass by Herb Dean there

I loved the bit where he told the doctor that his eye that had swollen shut might heal within the remaining 90 seconds

It wasn't swollen shut. It was in a spasm. Herb was hoping it would settle down by the 5 minute mark so the doc could check his eye. Probably a scratched retina.

I don't feel Yair was overplaying the aftermath. He had a main event spot in his home country. When you factor in the amount of time and money spent on both sides, it's got to be terribly upsetting. Apparently Stevens spent a substantial amount of his own money for him, his family, and his team to live and train in Mexico for this fight.

Ricky wrote: ↑21 Sep 2019, 22:39 Why is Yair Rodriguez not DQd for that!? He just poked Stephens in the eye!? How could it be accidentally when it's clear it wasn't a punch, it wasn't anything other than a poke. Herb Dean sucks.

You get a warning first. It was incredibly unfortunate. But you can't change the process of reffing because the first offense ends a fight as a NC.

I thought Herb handled the situation perfectly.

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑21 Sep 2019, 23:38

Ricky wrote: ↑21 Sep 2019, 22:39 Why is Yair Rodriguez not DQd for that!? He just poked Stephens in the eye!? How could it be accidentally when it's clear it wasn't a punch, it wasn't anything other than a poke. Herb Dean sucks.

You get a warning first. It was incredibly unfortunate. But you can't change the process of reffing because the first offense ends a fight as a NC.

I thought Herb handled the situation perfectly.

So if you're losing a fight just scratch the other guys eye out and get a NC?

Surely deliberate fouls that result in the fight ending are DQs? That looked rather deliberate to me, what was Yair doing with that hand... it sure wasn't a jab.

Ricky wrote: ↑21 Sep 2019, 23:55

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑21 Sep 2019, 23:38

You get a warning first. It was incredibly unfortunate. But you can't change the process of reffing because the first offense ends a fight as a NC.

I thought Herb handled the situation perfectly.

So if you're losing a fight just scratch the other guys eye out and get a NC?

Surely deliberate fouls that result in the fight ending are DQs? That looked rather deliberate to me, what was Yair doing with that hand... it sure wasn't a jab.

Didn't look deliberate to me. Looked as if he was reacting to a punch he thought Stevens was setting to throw. Not in Yair's character to pull something like that anyhow. Just like it's not Stevens character to look for a way out of a fight. Just an unfortunate event.

How long have you been following MMA?

thechump wrote: ↑21 Sep 2019, 22:17

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑21 Sep 2019, 12:46

Hes accomplished something Frankie has desperately wanted and been unable to do. Not a shot at Edgar, but Frankie or Faber would love to swap resumes with conor.

I 100% disagree with you,the only thing frankie or faber would love to swap with connor is the bank balance,frankies resume is better than connors,what frankie done was compete at a weight were it like his walking round weight,its like connor fighting woodley at 170 beating him then staying at that weight,connor won titles but never defended one of them. Frankie is a better fighter is a better human and has a better resume imo,frankie has fought everyone and always defended his title.

Nothing to disagree with, it's a fact bro.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 02:31

thechump wrote: ↑21 Sep 2019, 22:17
I 100% disagree with you,the only thing frankie or faber would love to swap with connor is the bank balance,frankies resume is better than connors,what frankie done was compete at a weight were it like his walking round weight,its like connor fighting woodley at 170 beating him then staying at that weight,connor won titles but never defended one of them. Frankie is a better fighter is a better human and has a better resume imo,frankie has fought everyone and always defended his title.

Nothing to disagree with, it's a fact bro.

Whats fact? That connor won titles at two different weight classes? Frankie won the title and defended it regained it defended it and has beaten better opposition than McGregor now that is fact and at a weight class were he was the smaller man 99% of the time,now can connor say this? No. This isnt me hating on McGregor its me stating facts.

I think Stephens would have knocked Yair out cold. If that fight would have played out normally without an eye poke.

It's not like Yair can fall back on his grappling like Zabit could when things were getting tough against Stephens.

The eye poke looked dodgy to me.

thechump wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 13:27

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 02:31

Nothing to disagree with, it's a fact bro.

Whats fact? That connor won titles at two different weight classes? Frankie won the title and defended it regained it defended it and has beaten better opposition than McGregor now that is fact and at a weight class were he was the smaller man 99% of the time,now can connor say this? No. This isnt me hating on McGregor its me stating facts.

Frankie's dream is titles in 2 weight classes. That's a fact. Faber's dream is a UFC title. That's a fact. Rate them how you want, Edgar and Faber dream of doing what conor has done.

Nondescript wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 13:28 I think Stephens would have knocked Yair out cold. If that fight would have played out normally without an eye poke.

It's not like Yair can fall back on his grappling like Zabit could when things were getting tough against Stephens.

Yair is a good example of the worthlessness of UFC rankings. What did he ever do to be ranked #7 in the division? He has a flashy exciting style but has never beaten a serious contender and even his biggest win (K-Zombie) was a hail mary miracle KO in the last second of the fight. Ranking him over proven guys like Emmett, Stephens, and Kattar is completely unjustified.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 13:45 The eye poke looked dodgy to me.

Me too, I don't see what else he was doing, it was just a finger straight in the eye from distance

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 19:34

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 13:45 The eye poke looked dodgy to me.

Me too, I don't see what else he was doing, it was just a finger straight in the eye from distance

Yeh. Just randomly waiving his arm around.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑23 Sep 2019, 01:27

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Sep 2019, 19:34

Me too, I don't see what else he was doing, it was just a finger straight in the eye from distance

Yeh. Just randomly waiving his arm around.

This isn't boxing fellas. The MMA community understands what happened. This type of thing happens a lot. It's just usually the opponent poked can continue within the 5 minute allowance.

Just watched a bbc documentary about the scottish lad called "the bad guy" chris bungard,it was an ok watch and ill keep my eye open for him on bellator

Does anyone on here like MVP? he is like the poor mans version of the great Anderson Silva

thechump wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:56 Does anyone on here like MVP? he is like the poor mans version of the great Anderson Silva

I don't watch MMA much, though have trained quite a bit of it. I find him entertaining to watch and extremely gifted, but totally understand that he is being matched ridiculously carefully and tailored to his attributes. I totally get why this would frustrate the life out of hard-core fans. It will be interesting to see if he can avenge his defeat.

thechump wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:56 Does anyone on here like MVP? he is like the poor mans version of the great Anderson Silva

That's being generous. He is great at point fighting. A good wrestler with decent striking acumen will expose him pretty badly.

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 12:25

thechump wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 10:56 Does anyone on here like MVP? he is like the poor mans version of the great Anderson Silva

That's being generous. He is great at point fighting. A good wrestler with decent striking acumen will expose him pretty badly.

Extremely generous, someone like sonnen would mutilate him.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 13:30

Impractical Poster wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 12:25

That's being generous. He is great at point fighting. A good wrestler with decent striking acumen will expose him pretty badly.

Extremely generous, someone like sonnen would mutilate him.

He got wrestle fucked by Paul Daley

MVP is a pure can-crusher who looks like pants whenever he faces someone decent.

jujigatame wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 14:11 MVP is a pure can-crusher who looks like pants whenever he faces someone decent.

Thought he was very disrespectful last night,he finished the fight and was stumbling around like a drunk,didnt even shake the lads hand paid no respect to him or his team,put me right off him.

Looks we got another serious contender at 185. Cannoneer looked great today.

thechump wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 15:19

jujigatame wrote: ↑28 Sep 2019, 14:11 MVP is a pure can-crusher who looks like pants whenever he faces someone decent.

Thought he was very disrespectful last night,he finished the fight and was stumbling around like a drunk,didnt even shake the lads hand paid no respect to him or his team,put me right off him.

I wasn't even aware he fought last night.