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Coco wrote:

FLINT ISLAND wrote:

Gazmac81 wrote:i started boxing the same night i started my First Job was 17 , always went to see my Bro fight and thought i could do that ( with pint in hand i might add ) . people always telling me i should come up the gym.

So went up the gym took a good year on and off training and got my first fight.
Luckiliy i was taught the basics well as i was knackered after first round war and then won it with my jab and straight rights after that.

The difference between being Fit in the gym and a fight was totally different

Went on to have about 25Fights won about 19
havent fought in about 6 years but go to the gym quite regualar and talk of comeback creeps up every so often.

Please explain what you mean exactly by this ........

A fight takes an awful lot out of you emotionally, nervous energy etc You need to be fitter to do the same job in the ring as you do in the gym

id agree witht that to an extent but i reckon thats more a case as a novice , dont think its the case once youve had a few , i felt the neves go away a bit after maybe 4 or 5 fights and at that point felt stronger and fitter but maybe it was just i was more confident.

damianhucker1 wrote:i boxed as a 9 stone teenager , had 7 fights amateur , lost the 2nd but won the rest , attempted a comeback 10 years later ( about 4 years ago ) at 13 stone and got twatted on a white collar show , no plans to come back again at mo . lol.

By white collar, do you mean semi-pro/unlicensed, or when actual white collar workers train up to competitive standard? I've been considering that (the latter) myself. Realistically there's no way I'd resume an amateur career now, but a white collar tourney could be cool.

Tommy Gunn13 wrote: Nice one i remember the name...there was alot of Gallaghers boxing at that time

Yeah you had Martin, John Antony and PJ all 4 brother's cousin known as Blueboy Gallagher all great Boxer's..
PJ was the only one of the brother's to turn over and won The British Title.

Well for my First Fight i mean i thought and Felt pretty fit sparring loads and doing PADs
but after the first round in the REAL fight at the totall different pace compared to sparring i was knackered , i was 17 and didnt really do any Exercise till then was more of a Teenage Drinker,

After my Frist fight i realized i needed to train harder and minimize the social life activities.

the more Experienced you get obviously get you more used to the pace of a fight.

FLINT ISLAND wrote:

Gazmac81 wrote:i started boxing the same night i started my First Job was 17 , always went to see my Bro fight and thought i could do that ( with pint in hand i might add ) . people always telling me i should come up the gym.

So went up the gym took a good year on and off training and got my first fight.
Luckiliy i was taught the basics well as i was knackered after first round war and then won it with my jab and straight rights after that.

The difference between being Fit in the gym and a fight was totally different

Went on to have about 25Fights won about 19
havent fought in about 6 years but go to the gym quite regualar and talk of comeback creeps up every so often.

Please explain what you mean exactly by this ........

yea plus in a real fight there was more meat getting thrown behind the punches aswell and not holding back like in sparring.

Coco wrote:

FLINT ISLAND wrote:

Gazmac81 wrote:i started boxing the same night i started my First Job was 17 , always went to see my Bro fight and thought i could do that ( with pint in hand i might add ) . people always telling me i should come up the gym.

So went up the gym took a good year on and off training and got my first fight.
Luckiliy i was taught the basics well as i was knackered after first round war and then won it with my jab and straight rights after that.

The difference between being Fit in the gym and a fight was totally different

Went on to have about 25Fights won about 19
havent fought in about 6 years but go to the gym quite regualar and talk of comeback creeps up every so often.

Please explain what you mean exactly by this ........

A fight takes an awful lot out of you emotionally, nervous energy etc You need to be fitter to do the same job in the ring as you do in the gym

mrrocco wrote:

Deno1986 wrote:I had 8 fights between the ages of 14-16. Won 3, lost 4 and drew 1. Wasn't the best by any means but loved the training and the atmosphere in the gym and I met some great people, real boxing folk. Had to pack it in due to football and Gaelic football commitments. I always considered going back into the gym for the training more than the fighting but I keep putting it on the long finger but might make it my new years resolution.

Um how did you get the draw? I was of the understanding that you cannot get a draw in amateur boxing (except in France I believe...)

I have seen a draw in the amateurs in Germany years ago. Didnt know amateurs could do that was suprised.

Londonirish wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote: Nice one i remember the name...there was alot of Gallaghers boxing at that time

Yeah you had Martin, John Antony and PJ all 4 brother's cousin known as Blueboy Gallagher all great Boxer's..
PJ was the only one of the brother's to turn over and won The British Title.

Yeah i thought there was a few,i remember Blueboy winning the abas against Billy Schwer,after losing in a earleir round against Martin Harley in London final...i dont think he boxed much more after winning the abas,he looked class

Five fights, five defeats... beat that!!!!LMFAO!!!

Will forever irk me that the sport I love is one I was the worst at:-)

I could never handle my nerves which meant generally after a good first round I'd just be knackered and struggle in rounds two or three. Suppose you could say I was a gym fighter because in the gym I'd spar anyone and handle myself comfortably. Was quite a tidy boxer with a good jab.

I struggled running too which meant never really had the strength required until I found out I had weak legs which meant I struggled running the long distances required to build up my stamina. Was an uphill battle as the lads at the gym would leave me lagging way behind so mentally that was tough because I'd be trying so hard but literally getting nowhere.

Didn't discover why I had such a tough time until I was nearly 30 when my ex-flatmate (a qualified fitness instructor and PE teacher) took me running and saw how I struggled he gave me series of exercises that were a revelation. In space of 12 months went from struggling to be able to run for a mile without stopping to doing the London Marathon... so that was a big victory.

Still my dream to have a fight where the ref raises my hand but 37 now so am way past it

7 fights, 3 wins- 3 of the defeats were all majority and on other club shows.

johnty1888 wrote:7 fights, 3 wins- 3 of the defeats were all majority and on other club shows.

See, even us boxers from the bottom rung of the ladder come up with excuses.

Old bones Ian wrote:Only had 5 amateur fights, won 3 lost 2.
never had the dedication for training really.

In my first fight, i had a cup of tea after weighing in, no idea why. After the first round i sat down and threw up a mouthfull over my trainer. He was not best pleased.

Advice given to me as i waited in the ring before the first bell was "Hands up, chin down, throw a jab and fornicating move"
I won as well

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:

Londonirish wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote: Nice one i remember the name...there was alot of Gallaghers boxing at that time

Yeah you had Martin, John Antony and PJ all 4 brother's cousin known as Blueboy Gallagher all great Boxer's..
PJ was the only one of the brother's to turn over and won The British Title.

Yeah i thought there was a few,i remember Blueboy winning the abas against Billy Schwer,after losing in a earleir round against Martin Harley in London final...i dont think he boxed much more after winning the abas,he looked class

Spot on about the ABA's.. He turned over had 13 won 11 BUT if he put his training in he could of went 30 unbeaten fighting for World Title's, the 1st 3 rounds of his fights he was different class

Just looked at his pro record totally forgot he turned Pro...are u realated to the Gallaghers Martin??

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Just looked at his pro record totally forgot he turned Pro...are u realated to the Gallaghers Martin??

Lol I think he has made that clear on a number of occasions!

Coco wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Just looked at his pro record totally forgot he turned Pro...are u realated to the Gallaghers Martin??

Lol I think he has made that clear on a number of occasions!

No im Not ....

Na im only kidding were realated, the Power's got the Looks tho

Coco wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Just looked at his pro record totally forgot he turned Pro...are u realated to the Gallaghers Martin??

Lol I think he has made that clear on a number of occasions!

Ignore that comment, I thought you were refering to Martin Gallagher!

Coco wrote:

Coco wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Just looked at his pro record totally forgot he turned Pro...are u realated to the Gallaghers Martin??

Lol I think he has made that clear on a number of occasions!

Ignore that comment, I thought you were refering to Martin Gallagher!

Il let u off Coco

Londonirish wrote:

Coco wrote:

Tommy Gunn13 wrote:Just looked at his pro record totally forgot he turned Pro...are u realated to the Gallaghers Martin??

Lol I think he has made that clear on a number of occasions!

No im Not ....

Na im only kidding were realated, the Power's got the Looks tho

Better Looks!!!!! Was that before you Turned Pro Martin Nah only kidding Cauliflower ears

Have sparred, if that counts. Don't know if I have the work ethic/balls to actually have a proper fight, mind..

I got battered sparring as a kid by the local geek. Taught me what a wanker I was, not the hard nut I thought I was. Still grateful to this day.

I trained on and off from 11 to 15 but never got into it properly and was never carded.

Started again at 21 and currently 7 fights with 3 wins. On 3 fight losing streak at the moment, thought I have done enough in each fight to get the win but the opponent got his hand raised.

Amateur records can be misleading, i have a losing record but never been stopped / beaten up or outclassed in a fight, 3 rounds isn’t a lot of time to get the job done, if you win a round, loose a round then have an even round then they can go either way, Not just to the home fighter as I recently discovered on my club show.

princess wrote:I had 42 pro fights won 36 fought mostly in USA and Europe as I wasnt allowed to fight in UK till 1999 i won 5 world titles I now promote and manage fighters Have a good stable of lads in Bristol

It's great to see you here Jane

x2

I stupidly volunteered myself for a bit of White Collar Boxing.

Thoroughly enjoyed the training, and due to the fact I'd been pitted against a work collegue I was also looking forward to the fight. I'm kicking around 14.5st he was about 12 and he is alot faster/fitter than me.

The fight came and it was over in 56 seconds. My corner decided I wasnt defending myself despite the fact that I had my guard fully up and was still jabbing out.

It had kicked off in the crowd moments before our fight so the theory is they wanted everyone out a bit sharpish. The three fights after mine were all also ended far to early

Would do it again though, would want to fight someone in the same "stature" as myself though

DIRT SUGAR wrote:Five fights, five defeats... beat that!!!!LMFAO!!!

Will forever irk me that the sport I love is one I was the worst at:-)

I could never handle my nerves which meant generally after a good first round I'd just be knackered and struggle in rounds two or three. Suppose you could say I was a gym fighter because in the gym I'd spar anyone and handle myself comfortably. Was quite a tidy boxer with a good jab.

I struggled running too which meant never really had the strength required until I found out I had weak legs which meant I struggled running the long distances required to build up my stamina. Was an uphill battle as the lads at the gym would leave me lagging way behind so mentally that was tough because I'd be trying so hard but literally getting nowhere.

Didn't discover why I had such a tough time until I was nearly 30 when my ex-flatmate (a qualified fitness instructor and PE teacher) took me running and saw how I struggled he gave me series of exercises that were a revelation. In space of 12 months went from struggling to be able to run for a mile without stopping to doing the London Marathon... so that was a big victory.

Still my dream to have a fight where the ref raises my hand but 37 now so am way past it

Good stuff about the Marathon... well done.

I was a 4-2 amateur myself. Lost my debut and my last fight - got badly stopped in my last fight and got disolutioned that my coach didn't even pick up the phone to ask if I was okay. Just apparently (I cannot remember) gave me a bollocking in the dressing room. This is why I will never be pissed off if a fighter has a geniune illness, cause I was ill - but it was a home show and I'd been tipped off it was a relatively easy fight... which it should have been, having seen it on video. I actually went to the show actually believing the doctor wouldn't clear me!!! I was knackered in the warm up.

That fight is the biggest regret in my life I must say. The guy was pretty average, and to think some of my so called mates after where whispering how "chinny" I was after. I didn't fall, but was completely out on my feet (I was staggering and not bouncing before he landed his shots, I dominated the first 30 seconds but was stopped at the start of the 2nd). I'd been in with WABA semi finalists at Light Heavy (I was a Super Feather, and should have been a feather with a better diet) on 100% with fight gloves on, and never budged - it really hurts. I'd never been hurt at all in any of my five fights, and my debut I took a battering against a guy who never officially weighed and well looked about 6 foot 2 square (no exageration) and I was a 5 foot 8 Super Feather.... but even though he hit damn hard, he never hurt me. My chin was kind of the thing my clubmates noted me for.

Like you, Dirt, I still dream that I can somehow prove just how much of a one-off that fight was... might go for this white collar thing. I have to stay, working the bag and still doing the odd sparring - I am in alot more control of my boxing now, and just wished I was a few years younger.