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Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 05:44
by JC
yiddo14 wrote:I thought Sturm could have done more though. Macklin left it all in the ring. Despite what Macklin said at the end, the only fighter that looked hurt at any stage was the Brummie.
I don't mean to be disrespectful to Strum I respect all fighters. But I do think if he had a bit more heart he might have come through and stopped Macklin in the later rounds. I believe he had the physical ability to do so but lacks that extra 10% all great champions have to drawn on from time to time.
Edit: forgot to mention full credit to Macklin I was really impressed with his performance
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 05:59
by liamlion
Fair play to Macklin, despite 'recent' poor performances the lad assured everyone that he would step his game up and he duly did that.
I understand that SkySports news are running a story this morning that a potential rematch in November has been muted.
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 06:01
by Nightmare Roy
Great fight, had mack by a round or two, but he was never going to get the nod out there.
rematch in Vegas prehaps on the undercard of a really big fight maybe?
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 06:11
by crusader
Isn't Sturm a star in Germany? I can't see him travelling abroad for a rematch.
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 06:41
by Brit Ryan
He's actually Bosnian
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 06:49
by broomy7s
It was a cracking fight. Credit to both fighters, I knew Sturm was class but Macklin suprised me. Thought he was more european class than world.
Altho I had Macklin by 1 round I really can't argue with a split decision defeat in the champions back yard. Never easy to win a points decision away from home. You have to be on top majorly and Macklin wasn't.
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 06:54
by crusader
Brit Ryan wrote:He's actually Bosnian
He was born and raised in Germany though.
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 07:05
by Ketchel
I had Macklin 3 up at the end. At least he can return home knowing that he landed more punches on Sturm than future HOF'er De La Hoya.
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 07:17
by Trojans44
If they do fight again i'd be surprised if sturm didn't stop Macklin.
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 07:19
by liamlion
Ketchel wrote:I had Macklin 3 up at the end. At least he can return home knowing that he landed more punches on Sturm than future HOF'er De La Hoya.
Except, Macklin cant because De La Hoya landed 188 punches on Sturm whereas Macklin had landed 139 by the end of the eleventh. Macklin simply didnt land 50 or more punches in that final round
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 07:23
by steve689
Richie Woodall has always scored for the aggressor, it doesn't matter if you're landing or not, as long as you are coming forward. He was the same when Rees fought Kotelnik.
I think Macklin can feel hard done by, coming away from a fight after putting so much into it, with nothing, is hard to swallow. But I think Sturm blocked and slipped a lot of punches and when it came to pure quality he was the boss.
However, 116-112 was way too wide, a draw would have been fairer.
That was a great fight though, real quality in the exchanges and not just mindless blood and guts. What top-class boxing is all about.
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 07:33
by Lenny
Not for me, I thought Strum won by a round or 2. After Macklin stopled going to the body all the best punches were landed by the german, his better quality work won him the fight
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 07:50
by jessi
sturms quality showed late on but macklin done more then enough imo in the first 8 rounds to win the fight, i think the first judge got it right, it was a draw at worst, to me its a fighters dream to be world champion and just because he was in germany we all accept it was ok to loose on points, he was robbed of a win in my eyes, but he will be back without a shadow of a doubt ! well done macklin, you proved me wrong, id of fancied barker to beat macklin 1 year ago and now im not sure !
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 09:06
by Brit Ryan
crusader wrote:Brit Ryan wrote:He's actually Bosnian
He was born and raised in Germany though.
Real name: Adnan Catic
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 09:11
by chiggsy
jessi wrote:sturms quality showed late on but macklin done more then enough imo in the first 8 rounds to win the fight, i think the first judge got it right, it was a draw at worst, to me its a fighters dream to be world champion and just because he was in germany we all accept it was ok to loose on points, he was robbed of a win in my eyes, but he will be back without a shadow of a doubt ! well done macklin, you proved me wrong, id of fancied barker to beat macklin 1 year ago and now im not sure !
Yea i was well impressed with macklin also.
I was at the echo for his fight against the spaniard and can remember thinking to myself "barker would box rings around this fella" but after last nights performance i'm not so sure.
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 09:46
by rhino222
it was relatively close, but such is boxing, the home fighter gets the majority of close decisions, its the difference between a travelodge and a raddisson hotel for the officials next time!!
i wiosh macklin would move his bloody head more, plus he keep going in and out in straight lines, very very basic, and that is what cost him the fight.
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 09:56
by Buncey
I scored it MM by 2 or 3 - however, a good friend of mine was there and he went for Sturm's clean, clear and 100 percent on target shots and had it to Sturm by 6.
If 2 either way is the general consensus then winning at home is to be expected. Wrong, but right.
Adios.
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 10:00
by hitman_hatton1
had sturm winning 7 rds to 5.
sturm won the last 3 rds to pull it out for me. :(
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 10:11
by pasty_spud
what where the thrown/landed stats?
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 10:15
by dtjenkins
Watt scores fights by what he thinks the judges are gonna give it not what he actually sees. The bloke is a woeful commentator and judge.
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 10:15
by smcb80
everybody looks for something different when they're scoring - some might rate clean, fully landed punches above a higher rate of punches landed if half of them were ineffective or not at full strength, some judges may favour how well a boxer defends himself over someone charging in and swinging wild digs, etc etc....
on that basis it can't be called a robbery, if all 3 are looking at different things when scoring. just the way it is, and one of the things that stands this sport above all others
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 12:58
by gobbles
Brit Ryan wrote:crusader wrote:Brit Ryan wrote:He's actually Bosnian
He was born and raised in Germany though.
Real name: Adnan Catic
He's not Bosnian. Never lived there. His parents are Bosnian (or actually Yugoslav)
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 13:06
by rhino222
gobbles wrote:Brit Ryan wrote:crusader wrote:
He was born and raised in Germany though.
Real name: Adnan Catic
He's not Bosnian. Never lived there. His parents are Bosnian (or actually Yugoslav)
he is of bosnian ancestry.
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 13:07
by leforge
Big crowd last night.
Re: Macklin robbed ??
Posted: 26 Jun 2011, 16:37
by crusader
Brit Ryan wrote:crusader wrote:Brit Ryan wrote:He's actually Bosnian
He was born and raised in Germany though.
Real name: Adnan Catic
Yep, that's his real name. He is of Bosnian ancestry but was born and raised in Germany.