KHAN - some people should be ashamed

[danconnollyeire]

he comes across as a little dim!
well if thats a reason to seriously dislike someone, then it's a sad day, he's a man that chose to get punched in the head for a living, you won't find many intellectuals who make that choice. derek chisora comes across as a "right thicko" but is portayed as more of a lovable rogue as a result.

so am i suppose to like amir BECAUSE he sounds like hes a downs syndrome thats suffered a stroke then? The guy can hardly get out an illegible sentence. Having a conversation with him would be truly painful. His vocabulary is pretty much limited to 1 syllable words and "yaknowwhaimean" x 1000. And as for his tweets..... sweet jesus. It would be a sad and restrictive world if u didnt have the free will to support or not support whoever you damn well chose to without feeling "ashamed". Joe Bugner had a lot of success and no1 seemed to give two hoots about how little support he got. Sometimes the public simply dont warm to a sportsman, look how long it took people to come round to calzaghe? If Amirs so upset, proves us wrong. Rebuild, maybe with a rematch or 3 and then facing stiffer competition, stopping the truly brainless tweets on the way. And regarding Chisora, hes hardly got public support has he? Even among boxing fans, did u see the reception he got at the fight and weigh in? But at least hes got a slither of humour to he rants, amirs about as funny as the houlocaust.He also doesnt claim to be a superstar who wouldve beaten muhammad ali over four rounds.

As I said, Im pretty indifferent to the guy, but dont feel its right people r pulled up for not liking him. Part and parcel of fame.

On a sidenote, I wondered when this thread would turn into a tired "racism" thread.

Its like the hollow "your jealous of his success" argument. Weak.

Sounds like you have issues yourself mate and have all the traits of a racist yourself, I mean ignorance for one, taking the mic out of down syndrome, then insulting his intelligence level, then commenting how tiresome to you discussing racism is, if you are not a racist you are certainly doing your best to qualify.

Traits of a racists? fornicate off... man up not everything is a racist attack on you. Maybe if you took a real hard look at yourself you'll see you have many issues and people don't like you... not because of your race

[stevieb_8006]

he comes across as a little dim!
well if thats a reason to seriously dislike someone, then it's a sad day, he's a man that chose to get punched in the head for a living, you won't find many intellectuals who make that choice. derek chisora comes across as a "right thicko" but is portayed as more of a lovable rogue as a result.

so am i suppose to like amir BECAUSE he sounds like hes a downs syndrome thats suffered a stroke then? The guy can hardly get out an illegible sentence. Having a conversation with him would be truly painful. His vocabulary is pretty much limited to 1 syllable words and "yaknowwhaimean" x 1000. And as for his tweets..... sweet jesus. It would be a sad and restrictive world if u didnt have the free will to support or not support whoever you damn well chose to without feeling "ashamed". Joe Bugner had a lot of success and no1 seemed to give two hoots about how little support he got. Sometimes the public simply dont warm to a sportsman, look how long it took people to come round to calzaghe? If Amirs so upset, proves us wrong. Rebuild, maybe with a rematch or 3 and then facing stiffer competition, stopping the truly brainless tweets on the way. And regarding Chisora, hes hardly got public support has he? Even among boxing fans, did u see the reception he got at the fight and weigh in? But at least hes got a slither of humour to he rants, amirs about as funny as the houlocaust.He also doesnt claim to be a superstar who wouldve beaten muhammad ali over four rounds.

As I said, Im pretty indifferent to the guy, but dont feel its right people r pulled up for not liking him. Part and parcel of fame.

On a sidenote, I wondered when this thread would turn into a tired "racism" thread.

Its like the hollow "your jealous of his success" argument. Weak.

Sounds like you have issues yourself mate and have all the traits of a racist yourself, I mean ignorance for one, taking the mic out of down syndrome, then insulting his intelligence level, then commenting how tiresome to you discussing racism is, if you are not a racist you are certainly doing your best to qualify.

token reply. a) i didnt take the "mic" out of downs syndrome, merely compared vocal tones & textures. b) i have every right to insult his itelligence level, being stupid isnt something to be proud of. c) Amir Khan threads that end in a racist discussion are tiresome, because thats how at least 70% of them tend to develop into. If you think that makes me racist, well, you are obviously looking for it to begin with. d) I love how if you dont fall into line with fawning over a fighter its all "ignorance this, ignorance that", yet you'll happily excuse Amirs WELL DOCUMENTED ignorance.

[stevieb_8006]

i thank you for your support dan. Its a case of the "only gay in the village" syndrome isnt it?

your thick.....

that means your racist......

errr, no it doesnt. it means your thick......

[danconnollyeire]

i thank you for your support dan. Its a case of the "only gay in the village" syndrome isnt it?

your thick.....

that means your racist......

errr, no it doesnt. it means your thick......

No problem... this shit does my head in
I've been called racist for dissing Khan before. Let's ask the guy a question... does he like John Terry. If no, why is he not racist?

[safeerah]

Stevie b

Amir Khan is not stupid, he is very successful, very wealthy and has achieved a lot for both himself and his family, what have you done lately ? I don't fawn of him as you say, just think he is not getting the credit he deserves, tiresome is not what I would call highlighting racism, it's called trying to remove it and non racists welcome debate, I notice you have not defended yourself by saying that you are not a racist, funny that.

[danconnollyeire]

Stevie b

Amir Khan is not stupid, he is very successful, very wealthy and has achieved a lot for both himself and his family, what have you done lately ? I don't fawn of him as you say, just think he is not getting the credit he deserves, tiresome is not what I would call highlighting racism, it's called trying to remove it and non racists welcome debate, I notice you have not defended yourself by saying that you are not a racist, funny that.

The target that you are targeting white people, belittling them as racist, proves youre racist yourself... am I right?

[safeerah]

i thank you for your support dan. Its a case of the "only gay in the village" syndrome isnt it?

your thick.....

that means your racist......

errr, no it doesnt. it means your thick......

No problem... this shit does my head in
I've been called racist for dissing Khan before. Let's ask the guy a question... does he like John Terry. If no, why is he not racist?[/quote

What ? So because Terry terry said a racist remark, every person of ethnic back gound should like him or they are racist ? Actually myself, I don't much care for him as a person because he shagged his best friends wife, but when England play I want him to do well, so England don't let in any goals.

[fasteddie]

Stevie b

Amir Khan is not stupid, he is very successful, very wealthy and has achieved a lot for both himself and his family, what have you done lately ? I don't fawn of him as you say, just think he is not getting the credit he deserves, tiresome is not what I would call highlighting racism, it's called trying to remove it and non racists welcome debate, I notice you have not defended yourself by saying that you are not a racist, funny that.

The target that you are targeting white people, belittling them as racist, proves youre racist yourself... am I right?

well said dan,there are more racist insults directed at whites but were meant to take it cause were white? it swings both ways

[NazNaci1]

As for Amir Khan, people can have their own opinion of him. For me he is a brave lad with a lot of talent. I wanted him to win, but he is not my favourute fighter by a long way.

This sums up Amir Khan, for me. Lots and lots of bottle, will to win but far, far too reckless. Shame, as he has talent.

[safeerah]

Stevie b

Amir Khan is not stupid, he is very successful, very wealthy and has achieved a lot for both himself and his family, what have you done lately ? I don't fawn of him as you say, just think he is not getting the credit he deserves, tiresome is not what I would call highlighting racism, it's called trying to remove it and non racists welcome debate, I notice you have not defended yourself by saying that you are not a racist, funny that.

The target that you are targeting white people, belittling them as racist, proves youre racist yourself... am I right?

How do I know if he is white or not you prat

[safeerah]

As for Amir Khan, people can have their own opinion of him. For me he is a brave lad with a lot of talent. I wanted him to win, but he is not my favourute fighter by a long way.

This sums up Amir Khan, for me. Lots and lots of bottle, will to win but far, far too reckless. Shame, as he has talent.

Agree 100%

[safeerah]

Stevie b

Amir Khan is not stupid, he is very successful, very wealthy and has achieved a lot for both himself and his family, what have you done lately ? I don't fawn of him as you say, just think he is not getting the credit he deserves, tiresome is not what I would call highlighting racism, it's called trying to remove it and non racists welcome debate, I notice you have not defended yourself by saying that you are not a racist, funny that.

The target that you are targeting white people, belittling them as racist, proves youre racist yourself... am I right?

well said dan,there are more racist insults directed at whites but were meant to take it cause were white? it swings both ways

How do you work that one out, give us proof, figures and I will open up a debate on it, it works both ways for me, I am against racism from all sides, I am not going to give you a history lesson or educate you on the ruling majority, but take it from me you are wrong.

[safeerah]

Stevie b

Amir Khan is not stupid, he is very successful, very wealthy and has achieved a lot for both himself and his family, what have you done lately ? I don't fawn of him as you say, just think he is not getting the credit he deserves, tiresome is not what I would call highlighting racism, it's called trying to remove it and non racists welcome debate, I notice you have not defended yourself by saying that you are not a racist, funny that.

The target that you are targeting white people, belittling them as racist, proves youre racist yourself... am I right?

well said dan,there are more racist insults directed at whites but were meant to take it cause were white? it swings both ways

How do you work that one out, give us proof, figures and I will open up a debate on it, it works both ways for me, I am against racism from all sides, I am not going to give you a history lesson or educate you on the ruling majority, but take it from me you are wrong.

[lefty]

In Britain having ambition is the ultimate sin, if you're successful, have a nice house and a nice car and go abroad 3 times a year you're a flash twat.

Live in a council house, drive a 10 year old Fiesta and go to Butlins once a year you're just one of the lads.

if you go abroad 3 times a year you are a flash twat!

[stevieb_8006]

Stevie b

Amir Khan is not stupid, he is very successful, very wealthy and has achieved a lot for both himself and his family, what have you done lately ? I don't fawn of him as you say, just think he is not getting the credit he deserves, tiresome is not what I would call highlighting racism, it's called trying to remove it and non racists welcome debate, I notice you have not defended yourself by saying that you are not a racist, funny that.

well a) u can be successful and wealthy AND be stupid as well. u do know that dont you, i could be here all day listing millionnaire idiots. b) the what have you done lately comment totally and absolutely justifies and supports my original comment about getting accused of jealousy as soon as u knock some1. clearly. u have proved my point there. c) how do u know im MY ethnicity? your quick to throw out racism accusations because of internet posts you dont agree with, then have the gall to call every1 else ignorant. these people you accuse could have black/asian/oriental wives/girlfriends for all you know. But you've read 1 comment about a some1s opinion of a boxer and made a what? Assumption. d) Judging by the support im getting and the derision your posts warrant, i'd say its YOU who is being deemed tiresome here. u r spoiling for a row, so obv. have a few issues that have (as i predicted) made this thread divert from the subject of a talented but vunerable boxer into ANOTHER race row. e) i dont HAVE to justify to some1 I have never met and prob never will, that i am not a racist. Any1 who has ever met me knows I am not, as do I. And they are the only opinions that matter to me. Not some1 getting upset because the public dont warm to amir khan. Have you ever thought its because they simply dont think hes very good? Outrageous I know, but entirely possible.

But im sure you prob feel it makes you some kind of Malcolm X, so you know, fight the power and all that.

[observer1]

Stevie b

Amir Khan is not stupid, he is very successful, very wealthy and has achieved a lot for both himself and his family, what have you done lately ? I don't fawn of him as you say, just think he is not getting the credit he deserves, tiresome is not what I would call highlighting racism, it's called trying to remove it and non racists welcome debate, I notice you have not defended yourself by saying that you are not a racist, funny that.

The target that you are targeting white people, belittling them as racist, proves youre racist yourself... am I right?

well said dan,there are more racist insults directed at whites but were meant to take it cause were white? it swings both ways

It certainly does swing both ways. But one can no doubt Amir Khan has been the subject of Racism. Just look at nearly every Amir Khan Video on YouTube- you get spam after spam of racist remarks. If you haven't noticed this you are either Blind or ignorant.

[stevieb_8006]

[/quote]

It certainly does swing both ways. But one can no doubt Amir Khan has been the subject of Racism. Just look at nearly every Amir Khan Video on YouTube- you get spam after spam of racist remarks. If you haven't noticed this you are either Blind or ignorant.[/quote]


well yes this is undoubtably true. there are fuckwit racists out there im afraid. but just because racism exists it doesnt me we cant say anything bad about khan ever just because of his ethnicity. particularly when he says/does such stupid things. this guy on here is accusing me a of racism because i said amir is a little bit dim. how unfair is that? Especially as hes been caught sending pics of his cock to a lapdancer in the past, had NUMEROUS driving bans/fines, said some really daft/offensive things on twitter.

that would be like saying ...... "idi amins was a bit of a wrong'un" ..."your out of order, thats racist!!!!"

my fav example of khans idiocy was when he tweeted about froch "hahaha he got battered for 12 rounds, at least i got knocked out in 1 minute..." priceless.

[fatcity69]

I think its a shame that this thread has denigrated into handbags at dawn. But should people be ashamed of criticizing Khan?... I dont think so as long as the criticisms are in context and not abusive. There is a minority of people unfortunately who will willingly abuse someone if they see a weakness in them, for some it may be race for others it maybe simply that someone is fat, bald or ugly (unphotogenic). Regarding youtube, have a look at some of the vile things which have been posted on Paul ingles videos, why? because he is braindamaged and overweight!. Racism isnt just a problem of race but a symptom of the darler side of humanbeings and unfortunately this will probably always exist in some form or other.

[Wrists]

If I'd known this thread would de-generate into a slanging match I wouldnt have started it so sorry guys!

My initial point is just a bug bear of mine and nothing to do with race.

Ah well - no one's died onwards and upwards as they say!!

[danconnollyeire]

i thank you for your support dan. Its a case of the "only gay in the village" syndrome isnt it?

your thick.....

that means your racist......

errr, no it doesnt. it means your thick......

No problem... this shit does my head in
I've been called racist for dissing Khan before. Let's ask the guy a question... does he like John Terry. If no, why is he not racist?[/quote

What ? So because Terry terry said a racist remark, every person of ethnic back gound should like him or they are racist ? Actually myself, I don't much care for him as a person because he shagged his best friends wife, but when England play I want him to do well, so England don't let in any goals.

No it's because he is white... that's why you don't like him. Therefore you are a racist

[danfoster]

My objections to Amir are largely characterised by what he's had to say in the following quote from today's press re the reason why he believes Froch doesn't like him:

"I'm in a tougher division, I'm fighting better opposition and I'm a bigger name than him. That's what burns him really"

I mean, is he really being serious? Does he actually believe this rubbish or is it the first thing that comes into his head?

I'm beginning to think that Amir is largely motivated by the wrong things - fame and celebrity. I know he trains hard and i know he has great heart for the fight but look at the comments he makes.

In a Sky interview at the venue in LV, broadcast on Friday before the Garcia fight, he said he was a 'superstar' and was openly comparing himself to Mayweather. He will deny it but it is quite obvious that he made his familiar mistake of looking past and thus underestimating an opponent (like he did with Limond, Gomez, Prescott and Peterson).

In the same IV on Sky last week he said he wouldn't fight Kell Brook because he considered himself a 'superstar' and that 'more people know who i am in America than know who Kell Brook is in the UK'. Previously, he's also said he wouldn't fight Brook (no criminal record, unlike Amir) as he is a 'bad role model' but would welcome a fight with PBF (serving time for wife beating).

Now he's gone on to say that he's a 'bigger name' than Froch. He also says that he's fought better opposition which is simply laughable. This is another debate entirely but has any fighter in British history had a tougher run of opponents? Does Amir seriously think that Peterson and Garcia are tougher than Ward and Bute?

What irritates me is that he is constantly referring to his status and fame when comparing himself to other fighters. Where has this obsession come from? Is he surrounded by idiots that keep telling him all this rubbish?

Why does he think that being more famous than an opponent is a reason to a) discount their honest opinion and / or b) discount them as a potential opponent?

So this is why i dislike the guy. I am pretty sure there is nothing racist about that. He's arrogant, to the point of delusional.

Despite all that, i love watching him fight as he has the priceless quality of being exciting and vulnerable.

But he needs to get humble, work on his flaws, and show some respect. He should be listening to what a great fighter like Froch says, not simply dismissing it.

[stevieb_8006]

My objections to Amir are largely characterised by what he's had to say in the following quote from today's press re the reason why he believes Froch doesn't like him:

"I'm in a tougher division, I'm fighting better opposition and I'm a bigger name than him. That's what burns him really"

I mean, is he really being serious? Does he actually believe this rubbish or is it the first thing that comes into his head?

I'm beginning to think that Amir is largely motivated by the wrong things - fame and celebrity. I know he trains hard and i know he has great heart for the fight but look at the comments he makes.

In a Sky interview at the venue in LV, broadcast on Friday before the Garcia fight, he said he was a 'superstar' and was openly comparing himself to Mayweather. He will deny it but it is quite obvious that he made his familiar mistake of looking past and thus underestimating an opponent (like he did with Limond, Gomez, Prescott and Peterson).

In the same IV on Sky last week he said he wouldn't fight Kell Brook because he considered himself a 'superstar' and that 'more people know who i am in America than know who Kell Brook is in the UK'. Previously, he's also said he wouldn't fight Brook (no criminal record, unlike Amir) as he is a 'bad role model' but would welcome a fight with PBF (serving time for wife beating).

Now he's gone on to say that he's a 'bigger name' than Froch. He also says that he's fought better opposition which is simply laughable. This is another debate entirely but has any fighter in British history had a tougher run of opponents? Does Amir seriously think that Peterson and Garcia are tougher than Ward and Bute?

What irritates me is that he is constantly referring to his status and fame when comparing himself to other fighters. Where has this obsession come from? Is he surrounded by idiots that keep telling him all this rubbish?

Why does he think that being more famous than an opponent is a reason to a) discount their honest opinion and / or b) discount them as a potential opponent?

So this is why i dislike the guy. I am pretty sure there is nothing racist about that. He's arrogant, to the point of delusional.

Despite all that, i love watching him fight as he has the priceless quality of being exciting and vulnerable.

But he needs to get humble, work on his flaws, and show some respect. He should be listening to what a great fighter like Froch says, not simply dismissing it.

u will also notice he had no probs fighting zab judah, michael gomez etc etc, they CERTAINLY had chequered pasts. much moreso than brook.

hes so daft cause all he'd have to say is "there are bigger fights for me out there right now". Job done. He doesnt need to make it personal.

As for the froch comment......U.N.B.E.L.I.E.V.A.B.L.E.

[stevieb_8006]

I think its a shame that this thread has denigrated into handbags at dawn. But should people be ashamed of criticizing Khan?... I dont think so as long as the criticisms are in context and not abusive. There is a minority of people unfortunately who will willingly abuse someone if they see a weakness in them, for some it may be race for others it maybe simply that someone is fat, bald or ugly (unphotogenic). Regarding youtube, have a look at some of the vile things which have been posted on Paul ingles videos, why? because he is braindamaged and overweight!. Racism isnt just a problem of race but a symptom of the darler side of humanbeings and unfortunately this will probably always exist in some form or other.

[Lenny]

"I'm in a tougher division, I'm fighting better opposition and I'm a bigger name than him. That's what burns him really"

Obviously nobody would agree with this, but then Froch had come out straight after he had lost and said Khan should retire. I can imagine Khan was probably a bit wound up by this and snapped back

Understandable, if laughably inaccurate statement

[palooka]

Froch should keep his beak out of it rather than crow; if he's nothing supportive to say after a kO loss then he ough to keep his council. (I imagine that some parts of Amirs carer and financial success do irritate Carl tbh). Boxers are on weak ground when they give advice around like that; it can come back to haunt them; every boxer is one big punch and a split second away from an embarrassing loss.