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Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 20:11
by Final round
The Insider wrote:
Wasnt impressed by Groves. He may as well hit the heavy bag for 12 rounds. He looked open and tired IMO.
I think he was trying to draw the lead and get Glenn to open his guard
No one would have looked good against him in that mode imo
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 20:12
by keithmoonhangover
I haven't seen this fight, do you mind not discussing it please.
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Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 20:15
by Galvanised Clout
keithmoonhangover wrote:I haven't seen this fight, do you mind not discussing it please.
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You're making yourself look more stupid with each post Keith, I'd give it a rest for the rest of the night if I was you.
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 20:23
by Horse
keithmoonhangover wrote:I haven't seen this fight, do you mind not discussing it please.
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Why did you come on this thread then?
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 20:25
by mcato
Horse wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:I haven't seen this fight, do you mind not discussing it please.
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Why did you come on this thread then?
That's wot I want to know? Just dont go on the PC Turn it off!
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 20:32
by Bard of Boxrec
duh, he was joking (re the other thread about not talking about results without using 'SPOILER')
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 20:33
by Horse
Riddick Blowe wrote:duh, he was joking (re the other thread about not talking about results without using 'SPOILER')
His joke was pretty lame.
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 15 Dec 2012, 20:41
by mcato
Horse wrote:Riddick Blowe wrote:duh, he was joking (re the other thread about not talking about results without using 'SPOILER')
His joke was pretty lame.
HA HA that was really funny.....grt joke
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 06:59
by Finch
Am surprised about the posts during this fight. Groves for me was excellent, albeit still room for improvement as he was open to be hit if Johnson threw some punches. That said it makes him more exciting to watch, and remember he is a 15 fight novice fighting and dominating a guy that took Froch to a close decision 18 months ago.
Groves appeared at stages to look like he was going to punch himself out, but paced it well overall. Groves has some decent power but Johnson has an excellent chin, demonstrated by his record.
I don't want to see him in with Abraham just yet because if he lands, Groves will be put to sleep. I'd like to see another couple of fights and Groves tightening up but he is definitely on the right road to becoming a world title contender at the back end of next year. No need to rush.
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 07:04
by loaded_gloves
I don't think Groves or his sloppy, open style with scant punches wins a world title. I think he'll get KOd or emulate David Haye and stay away to lose a clear UD.
The beating Glen Johnson would have issued a fellow like Groves 4 or 5 years ago would be the stuff of snuff.
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 07:24
by Autobarn
loaded_gloves wrote:I don't think Groves or his sloppy, open style with scant punches wins a world title. I think he'll get KOd or emulate David Haye and stay away to lose a clear UD.
The beating Glen Johnson would have issued a fellow like Groves 4 or 5 years ago would be the stuff of snuff.
another way of looking at it is that groves did what he was supposed to do, and can improve, and would use a different strategy vs someone like, say, abraham.
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 07:28
by loaded_gloves
I admire your optimism, but Groves is what he is and he boxes in that familiar Haye/Booth style we've become accustomed to. Low work rate, try spring surprises, rounds drag by.
Fair enough if you like it, but it's not a style I enjoy and I don't think he'll win at top level with it.
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 07:35
by whiskey
Finch wrote:Am surprised about the posts during this fight. Groves for me was excellent, albeit still room for improvement as he was open to be hit if Johnson threw some punches. That said it makes him more exciting to watch, and remember he is a 15 fight novice fighting and dominating a guy that took Froch to a close decision 18 months ago.
Groves appeared at stages to look like he was going to punch himself out, but paced it well overall. Groves has some decent power but Johnson has an excellent chin, demonstrated by his record.
I don't want to see him in with Abraham just yet because if he lands, Groves will be put to sleep. I'd like to see another couple of fights and Groves tightening up but he is definitely on the right road to becoming a world title contender at the back end of next year. No need to rush.
So you say he dominated a guy that Froch took to a close decision....
... But think Groves should avoid a guy who Froch dominated ?
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 07:54
by Bard of Boxrec
loaded_gloves wrote:I don't think Groves or his sloppy, open style with scant punches wins a world title. I think he'll get KOd or emulate David Haye and stay away to lose a clear UD.
The beating Glen Johnson would have issued a fellow like Groves 4 or 5 years ago would be the stuff of snuff.
Yeah, he's been moulded into Haye's 'posture and then occasionally explode with punches' style but he doesn't have the explosive power of Haye to hurt guys at the top level and he's way too open.
Even if he tightens up a lot I don't see what his advantages will be over any other contender, unless he goes after crappy paper titlist level guys like Stieglitz (which is probably what he will have to do).
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 08:21
by palooka
Galvanised Clout wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:I haven't seen this fight, do you mind not discussing it please.
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You're making yourself look more stupid with each post Keith, I'd give it a rest for the rest of the night if I was you.
leave keith alone nobhead
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 16 Dec 2012, 18:32
by Ratchet Exits Nu
I have a feeling Groves will end up a being a good world champ. He wold beat degale by KO next time.
Re: Groves v Johnson
Posted: 17 Dec 2012, 07:37
by The Insider
Ratchet Exits Nu wrote:I have a feeling Groves will end up a being a good world champ. He wold beat degale by KO next time.
Not sure about that. I fancy James would beat him at this present time.