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Re: native american indian boxers ?

Posted: 16 May 2024, 12:15
by Caractacus
giacomino wrote: 15 May 2024, 17:46 I lived most of my life in the Southern US and many if not most of the white folk I knew claimed Cherokee blood.
and/or Choctaw (if they're from the Deep South) .

Re: native american indian boxers ?

Posted: 18 May 2024, 17:25
by Caractacus

Re: native american indian boxers ?

Posted: 19 May 2024, 01:01
by writehooks
From 1988-91 I trained Danny Stonewalker, a Metis (three-quarters Cree) from Fort McMurray, Alberta, who won the Canadian light heavyweight championship in January 1990 and 11 months later became the first Albertan and first Indigenous Canadian to fight for a world title when he squared off against unbeaten WBO champ Michael Moorer in Pittsburgh. Although Danny was stopped in eight, at the post-fight press conference Moorer's trainer, Emanuel Steward, called him "the toughest Canadian since George Chuvalo." Stonewalker moved up to heavyweight in 1992, and between losses to the likes of Michael Dokes, fellow Canadian Ken Lakusta and Dicky Ryan, he KO'd George McFall for the vacant Canadian crown. He retired in 1994 and died in 2018 from complications of stroke and dementia. He was only 57.

Re: native american indian boxers ?

Posted: 19 May 2024, 06:25
by bennie
writehooks wrote: 19 May 2024, 01:01 From 1988-91 I trained Danny Stonewalker, a Metis (three-quarters Cree) from Fort McMurray, Alberta, who won the Canadian light heavyweight championship in January 1990 and 11 months later became the first Albertan and first Indigenous Canadian to fight for a world title when he squared off against unbeaten WBO champ Michael Moorer in Pittsburgh. Although Danny was stopped in eight, at the post-fight press conference Moorer's trainer, Emanuel Steward, called him "the toughest Canadian since George Chuvalo." Stonewalker moved up to heavyweight in 1992, and between losses to the likes of Michael Dokes, fellow Canadian Ken Lakusta and Dicky Ryan, he KO'd George McFall for the vacant Canadian crown. He retired in 1994 and died in 2018 from complications of stroke and dementia. He was only 57.

Stonewalker was a brave, dedicated fighter who never got over boxing and wound up homeless on the cold streets of Edmonton, where he was often seen shadowboxing.

Re: native american indian boxers ?

Posted: 22 May 2024, 07:02
by Dart340
Joe Hipp might be the most obvious answer. For me, I always think of either Lupe Guerra or the Sargent brothers, all heavyweight trialhorses in the 70's and 80's.

Re: native american indian boxers ?

Posted: 22 May 2024, 19:31
by Cask
Anthony "Andytown Apache" Cacace

Ok he's Irish but his fans do this cool Native American chant during his fights and the name is chef's kiss

Re: native american indian boxers ?

Posted: 22 May 2024, 19:32
by Cask
Shawn Hawk who fought Nathan Cleverly, Steve V Bunce thought it would be funny to interview him over the phone wearing a red novelty cowboy hat an d making fun of his ancestry, Hawk couldn't see him so was oblivious. Really classy journalism

Re: native american indian boxers ?

Posted: 22 May 2024, 19:39
by Cask
HomicideHenry wrote: 31 Jan 2013, 15:28
Brutu wrote:Im guessing that it may have been something other then Native American blood
crossing into White culture that was the concern.
President Thomas Jefferson felt that White American colonist should merge with the Native Americans
to create a new hybrid race.
He didn't feel the same about people of sub-saharan African desent
mixing with White colonists however.
The Romany people have always been predjudiced against for about the past 1000 years,
which carried over to Anglo-America.
The were better accepted in Latin American countries of course.
I would like to see where that is written by Jefferson, considering he penned the Declaration of Indepedence and it states clearly that Jefferson didn't by proxy view the Native Americans as even being human and that they should be exterminated.

True, old records show that from the 1640's to the 1860's 1,000,000 gypsies were murdered in America for simply being a gypsy. Tales of men showing off "trophies" of gypsies kills include one account where a man held up the heads of a gypsy woman and her child. If you take into account of this, and look at the world today, Native Americans and Gypsies are the two most persecuted races on Earth; the highest infant mortality rate in Europe is among Gypsies, the highest illiteracy rate in Europe is also among gypsies, as is domestic violence, etc. What else can be attributed to that than racism between Gorjers and Gypsies. Mind you, England wants to talk proudly of being a gun free zone, yet they used not just rifles or handguns, but ASSAULT WEAPONS to force the Gypsies off the Dale Farm encampment (land that they Gypsies actually owned) and that was last year.
It is absolutely hilarious reading this pseudo history "only those with a bias against America think people with Native American blood were discriminated against" :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

It's like the "White guilt garbage" , "You know the native Americans didn't ACTUALLY use every part of the animal you know that's a liberal guilt myth" Oh if I'd have known that Id have not only been pro genocide id say you should have genocided them quicker!!! Savages!!!! Didn't use the whole animal?? They deserved slower deaths than they got!! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:the

I'll always remember American hero John Wayne's opinion on it, they got what they deserved because they should have learned how to share :clap: :OhYes: :oops: :oops: :oops: (John Wayne, being a Communist sympathiser!!!!)

Some of our great heroes are really the worst people

Re: native american indian boxers ?

Posted: 22 May 2024, 19:42
by margaret thatcher
homicide henry, our resident black native american irish gypsy, whose background gives him an intimate and extensive knowledge of life as a black man/native man/gypsy man

Re: native american indian boxers ?

Posted: 23 May 2024, 15:27
by Caractacus
dang, that must have been one heck of an "Org--ee.
Wonder what the 23and me tests would show for all of that 'devirseive"mixing ?

Re: native american indian boxers ?

Posted: 14 Sep 2024, 14:13
by Caractacus
BTW Did you know that Roberto Duran's paternal Grandmother was Cherokee Indian ?
( it's true)

Re: native american indian boxers ?

Posted: 14 Sep 2024, 14:19
by Caractacus
Robert Tessier was of Algonguin hertiage

Re: native american indian boxers ?

Posted: 14 Oct 2024, 14:26
by Caractacus
Don Jordan
( presumably Carib or Taino)