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Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 19 Jul 2013, 17:22
by lillywhite14
Guerrero will give Kell fits. That's the main reason that one won't be made!
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 19 Jul 2013, 17:24
by lefty
lillywhite14 wrote:Guerrero will give Kell fits. That's the main reason that one won't be made!
Ie so he'll be put in with someone who wont challenge him really! It's disappointing.
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 19 Jul 2013, 17:31
by steve689
expe wrote:Guerrero won't travel
He travelled to Denmark to fight Spend Abazi.
Just saying 
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 19 Jul 2013, 17:34
by lillywhite14
From here on its about keeping him ticking over and in contention for the title shot. It's not about giving him 50/50 fights.
I think it will harm his chances. He has the talent to beat someone like Alexander but won't be seasoned enough when the chance comes back around.
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 19 Jul 2013, 17:39
by lefty
lillywhite14 wrote:From here on its about keeping him ticking over and in contention for the title shot. It's not about giving him 50/50 fights.
I think it will harm his chances. He has the talent to beat someone like Alexander but won't be seasoned enough when the chance comes back around.
Like you say though, feeding him guys who arent really going to challenge him arent going to prepare him for when he does eventually step up! For instance Maidana would of been a good fight and he's a guy that Alexander dominated so if he cant be dealing with these guys then he should drop back down to european or british level. As the saying goes... if you cant handle the heat, get out of the kitchen!
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 19 Jul 2013, 17:43
by lillywhite14
Well they were more than happy to stick him in with Devon before all the injury troubles so it seems pretty clear they think he is ready. Can't see them risking his position now.
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 19 Jul 2013, 18:00
by lefty
The thing that makes it worse for me though is that a lot of these guys they wont put Kell in are naturally smaller guys! Guerrero came up from lightweight and probably could still make that weight if he really wanted to or atleast 140 and Maidana and Alexander alike came up from 140. Same as Lopez and Ortiz. Kell is a guy that has trouble making welterweight and is huge for the weight!
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 19 Jul 2013, 18:20
by Final round
(Ignoring the strange weight issue) All those fighters would be serious big name fights and proper tests for Kell Brook..
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 19 Jul 2013, 18:30
by lefty
Final round wrote:(Ignoring the strange weight issue) All those fighters would be serious big name fights and proper tests for Kell Brook..
Thats the point though. He should be in those kind of fights now.
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 19 Jul 2013, 20:14
by goldenears
it seems to be rumoured to be Lopez, who is NOT a big name fighter. He's been in with some top guys but apart from Ortiz' jaw busting, Maidana beat him well and Canelo destroyed him. I still think he's a small Welterweight and whilst the hardcore fans will know him from his last 3 fights, to call him a big name is just a load of tripe.
It's a step up for Brook and he will definitely get a scrap, but the hyperbole is bollocks from Hearn.
I look forward however to Groves getting smashed up by Froch, and Quigg getting a shot at a belt he deserves.
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 19 Jul 2013, 23:15
by jackukmma
lillywhite14 wrote:From here on its about keeping him ticking over and in contention for the title shot. It's not about giving him 50/50 fights.
I think it will harm his chances. He has the talent to beat someone like Alexander but won't be seasoned enough when the chance comes back around.
There's no getting round putting him in 50/50 fights from here. Fans won't have it for one. Also mandatory situation isn't all that clear cut. He can't be boxing the Carson Jones of the world for a year then suddenly be expected to step up in class. Senchenko and Lopez inside next 6 months then Ortiz/Guerrero/Maidana/Paulie after that. He should win them all and it's small step up in class each time.
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 00:01
by rio
Better not be lopez.......no way can hearn call it a big fight against a guy coming off 2 ko losses and losing 3 of his last 4
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 01:33
by jessi
jameswilson wrote:jessi wrote:What's happening with Anthony Joshua turning pro with match room ? Why the hell does it take so long ?
Because it is a big decision for Joshua to make and he wants to make absolutely sure he is making the right choice. When you make lifechanging decisions do you just go 'bah eff it I'll go with that one, what's the worst that can happen?'
1 year is a very long time ! IMO his wasted a year of good boxing experience
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 01:36
by Boxing Prospect
A year out for Joshua and whilst the decision is a big one would that delay have ended up costing him a good portion of what he would have gotten as a signing on fee in 2012?
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 01:46
by lillywhite14
Couldn't agree more regarding Joshua. He hasn't even competed since London has he? Hopefully he has been getting some top sparring in that time.
He should be super hungry at this stage in his career.
I always thought the point of not turning over straight away was to get more experience as a fighter.
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 06:46
by TJ77
lillywhite14 wrote:Guerrero will give Kell fits. That's the main reason that one won't be made!
It pains me but I have to agree he is not ready for the Ghost by a long shot and I don't believe they could make it happen at all .
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 07:08
by lefty
TJ77 wrote:lillywhite14 wrote:Guerrero will give Kell fits. That's the main reason that one won't be made!
It pains me but I have to agree he is not ready for the Ghost by a long shot and I don't believe they could make it happen at all .
They could make it happen quite easily if they payed him a fair amount.
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 07:12
by SNG
TJ77 wrote:lillywhite14 wrote:Guerrero will give Kell fits. That's the main reason that one won't be made!
It pains me but I have to agree he is not ready for the Ghost by a long shot and I don't believe they could make it happen at all .
Is he ever going to be ready?
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 07:14
by lefty
SNG wrote:TJ77 wrote:lillywhite14 wrote:Guerrero will give Kell fits. That's the main reason that one won't be made!
It pains me but I have to agree he is not ready for the Ghost by a long shot and I don't believe they could make it happen at all .
Is he ever going to be ready?
Not until he's about 70-0 by all accounts.......
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 09:35
by TJ77
SNG wrote:TJ77 wrote:lillywhite14 wrote:Guerrero will give Kell fits. That's the main reason that one won't be made!
It pains me but I have to agree he is not ready for the Ghost by a long shot and I don't believe they could make it happen at all .
Is he ever going to be ready?
Yes though im sure our opinions differ.
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 09:40
by TJ77
@columbo Why profess to be a fan yet pour scorn at every opportunity?
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 10:19
by SNG
TJ77 wrote:
Yes though im sure our opinions differ.
Well when? We've been hearing the same stuff or years.
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 10:22
by lefty
TJ77 wrote:@columbo Why profess to be a fan yet pour scorn at every opportunity?
Because im getting sick of tired of waiting for him to step up to the top level! At the moment he's a protected fighter. Anyway, im a boxing fan period, not a Kell Brook fan. I dont support fighters purely because they're british. I like fighters based on what they do in the ring and on their calibre of opposition.
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 11:09
by zero
Parson Cross wrote:It won't be Senshenko.
Is that an opinion?
If true that leaves Mosley, Lopez, Guerrero or Van Heerdeen. I seen on another thread there is potential talk of Lopez fighting on the Mayweather card..
Re: Matchroom Announcement??
Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 11:14
by palooka
Lopez will get high profile work regularly as he gets stuck in and takes his lumps, a loss or 2 hasn't hurt him. If they can get Brook in with him I reckon he's the one that Kell would beat 'most easily' - it'd still be a hard fight though. I reckon that Van Heerdeen will take some shifting.