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Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 18 Aug 2013, 21:08
by Giancarlo
Awesome 'story', bro.

Is any of it true though?

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 18 Aug 2013, 22:10
by klompton
Now the truth comes out. Ali never paid Duce's uncle any royalties on his poems, thats why Duce hates him... yeah right.

Can anyone believe anything that comes out of this guys mouth? How much did you get paid working for the WBA back in the 1970s Duce?

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 18 Aug 2013, 22:35
by klompton
I'll answer your questions when you start answering mine and everybody elses. Youve been asked a ton of factual questions that you refuse to answer because you know youd have to admit that much of what you have posted is wrong. When you go back and answer all of those questions Ill start answering yours. You can start by addressing the lie you told about being a WBA official. Come on. How much did you get paid for this imaginary job? Youve contradicted that more than once but more to the point why would anyone who was alive during those times have to rely on information cribbed from old magazines and google news (sometimes innaccurate)?

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 00:06
by BoxBuzz
Infotainment!!!

I have often heard it said "you can't make this shyt up!"

I say....some do!

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 04:31
by Giancarlo
Hey Buzzy, you reckon this clown is even better entertainment than granberry?

Yeah, me too.

:TU:

Where do you find them?

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 05:46
by klompton
Il Duce wrote:I guess those checks from WBA Treasurer - Nick Kerasiotti were 'invisible'...........

By the way, do you think the name Muhammad Ali, 'Minister' was created to just possibly
avoid induction into the U.S. Selective Service,,,,,,,,

Just maybe a 'little bit'.................. :wink:

Let's be real, Cassius Clay liked the good life and wanted it to stay that way.............

He couldn't even be honest with himself...........Very Sad

His name was: Kerasiotis, not Kerasiotti. Youd think youd know that if he was signing all of those checks...

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 06:00
by p4p1
klompton wrote:
Il Duce wrote:I guess those checks from WBA Treasurer - Nick Kerasiotti were 'invisible'...........

By the way, do you think the name Muhammad Ali, 'Minister' was created to just possibly
avoid induction into the U.S. Selective Service,,,,,,,,

Just maybe a 'little bit'.................. :wink:

Let's be real, Cassius Clay liked the good life and wanted it to stay that way.............

He couldn't even be honest with himself...........Very Sad

His name was: Kerasiotis, not Kerasiotti. Youd think youd know that if he was signing all of those checks...
What exactly did he have to lose by joining the military is the argument I don't get it is very clear that he never would of gone to war. So your argument that he changed his name only to avoid going to war is pretty weak.

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 09:19
by p4p1
Il Duce wrote:Cassius Clay 'did not' change his name.......

And it had nothing to do with the Vietnam War.

It had everything to do with avoiding Induction into the United States Military, of which
Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr. was a citizen of in the United States.

He originally 'switched' his name to 'Cassius X', which was not a legal name change through
the Court Clerks office.
that still doesn't answer exactly what he had to gain by not being inducted into the military. Do you have any evidence that he didn't change his name for religious reason?

The facts are Clay changed his name on Febuary 1964, he was reclassified in 1966 so why would he change his name to avoid something he didn't know was gong to happen yet?

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 09:36
by klompton
And why would he keep the change for 50 yrs. is he afraid the military will start srafting 70 yr olds with parkinsons?

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 09:38
by p4p1
Il Duce wrote:I think I you look back and check the Newspaper Articles from the Summer of 1963, you will see what
was happening with Cassius and the U.S. Selective Service.

Cassius Clay first 'switched' his name to 'Cassius X' and became a self-proclaimed Minister with the
Black Muslim Religion.

This was done to 'hedge' the bet against possible {possible now} future induction.

Nobody really believed this was a 'true conversion', and really was just more of an act to 'insulate' Cassius.

Many young American Men 'White, Black and Brown' pulled the same 'dance and shuffle' move in an effort to
skirt around the Selective Service Act.
The difference being that those men would of seen the actual war Ali wouldn't have the most he ever would have done was box some exhibitions for the troops so tell me again what did he have to gain by refusing induction into the military

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 09:52
by p4p1
Il Duce wrote:Not everybody who entered the Vietnam War was fighting in the Rice Paddies of the Mekong River Delta,

Maybe only 10% of the Draftee's were actually fighting on the Ground.

My cousin was Drafted, and ended working on Medevac Helicopters in Taiwan.

Not sure what Cassius was thinking, as he was not the 'brightest bulb' out there you know.

He failed the Military Mental Aptitude Test...........'twice'.

To fail that test 'twce', you're either a borderline 'imbecile' or faking it.
So if not for religious reason which you believe to not be true what did he have to gain by refusing to enter the military?

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 10:14
by klompton
thats a nice fairytale.

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 19 Aug 2013, 10:30
by klompton
and another fiction... they just keep coming.

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 20 Aug 2013, 17:06
by klompton
Il Duce wrote:Muhammad Ali was still living it up in January 1970,,

Following his loss by "TKO 13" to old man 46 year-old Rocky Marciano, Muhammad purchased
a home in the 'swank' Overbrook section Philadelphia.

The $92,000 {equal to $700,000 in Todays power value} is a fine home in the upscale community.

Not sure where Muhammad was suffering,,,,,,,,,,surely not in America....

I salute you......... Muhammad Ali.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... e4Uoqr3RDA

You are a sad little man. I guess youve never owned a home. You can be cash poor and still purchase a house. People do it all the time. Its not necessarily advisable depending on the situation but I wouldnt expect someone whose lived with his parents all of his 16 years to know that.

Re: Cassius Clay 'Old Man Campaign'

Posted: 21 Aug 2013, 00:00
by klompton
I didnt realize simply being young made you a qualified challenger, which is a point you have driven home numerous times. By that logic Thad Spencer has no excuse for being completely washed up by the time he was 28 and as such was never anything special to begin with.