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Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 06:43
by Onetimeonly
nobleart1978 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2020, 07:58
I don't understand the mis placed belief that Leonard ducked Pryor.
1. Leonard was out of boxing because of a detached retina when Pryor was in his prime
2. Pryor was 4 inches shorter than Leonard and half a stone lighter.
Pryor was, most probably, the finest light welter ever. But, in my opinion, no way would he have defeated SRL
Leonard did commentary as a retired fighter for arguello. Pryor/Leonard and the McCallum nonsense are the two most bizarre 'ducking' claims I've seen the internet invent
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 07:30
by Syntax Error
The ducking claims are arrant nonsense.
Why on Earth would a man who had fought Wilfred Benitez, Roberto Duran and Thomas Hearns duck someone who wasn't as mighty as those guys from the weight class below?
Leonard was the golden goose fighter of the 80s and everyone with a pulse wanted a piece of him.
If Pryor really wanted to fight Leonard, he would have moved up to 147 long before 1987.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 07:37
by elmersalsa
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 06:43
nobleart1978 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2020, 07:58
I don't understand the mis placed belief that Leonard ducked Pryor.
1. Leonard was out of boxing because of a detached retina when Pryor was in his prime
2. Pryor was 4 inches shorter than Leonard and half a stone lighter.
Pryor was, most probably, the finest light welter ever. But, in my opinion, no way would he have defeated SRL
Leonard did commentary as a retired fighter for arguello. Pryor/Leonard and the McCallum nonsense are the two most bizarre 'ducking' claims I've seen the internet invent
There is a footage on YouTube that the great Mike McCallum claimed that the Fab 4 ducked him. McCallum claimed that.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 07:39
by Ambling Alp II
then it must be true.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 07:39
by Onetimeonly
elmersalsa wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 07:37
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 06:43
Leonard did commentary as a retired fighter for arguello. Pryor/Leonard and the McCallum nonsense are the two most bizarre 'ducking' claims I've seen the internet invent
There is a footage on YouTube that the great Mike McCallum claimed that the Fab 4 ducked him. McCallum claimed that.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 07:41
by elmersalsa
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 07:39
elmersalsa wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 07:37
There is a footage on YouTube that the great Mike McCallum claimed that the Fab 4 ducked him. McCallum claimed that.
Did you see the footage?
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 07:43
by Onetimeonly
elmersalsa wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 07:41
Did you see the footage?
If the great Mike McCallum says it than it has to be true!
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 08:12
by Syntax Error
elmersalsa wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 07:37
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 06:43
Leonard did commentary as a retired fighter for arguello. Pryor/Leonard and the McCallum nonsense are the two most bizarre 'ducking' claims I've seen the internet invent
There is a footage on YouTube that the great Mike McCallum claimed that the Fab 4 ducked him. McCallum claimed that.
Agreed, the footage is out there, but with all due respect to Mr McCallum, he's talking shyte.
He's obviously pissed because he never managed to get in on the act, but that's because of the way things panned out, not because any of them actively ducked him.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 11:26
by Nile4000
Duran1970 wrote: ↑18 Jun 2020, 01:18
Nile4000 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2020, 23:06
Or Curry, Starling, and McCrory.
He'd beat starling
If Starling was having his lazy moments.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 17:35
by Onamastus
This would have been a damaging fight for Pryor.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 18 Jun 2020, 17:49
by margaret thatcher
Ya Leo would've lit him up
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 19 Jun 2020, 03:59
by AntonioMartin
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑03 Dec 2013, 10:38
For reasons that never seem to be explained, some people on the BOTP don't think very highly of Pryor as a fighter.
.
Stupid as it sounds, it might have to do with the bottle..but he did prove himself in the rematch with Arguello...
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 19 Jun 2020, 07:57
by Ambling Alp II
Pryor wasn't good as Leonard and it's ridiculous to to say that Leonard ducked him. Having said that, he was a great fighter.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 19 Jun 2020, 12:29
by Onetimeonly
AntonioMartin wrote: ↑19 Jun 2020, 03:59
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑03 Dec 2013, 10:38
For reasons that never seem to be explained, some people on the BOTP don't think very highly of Pryor as a fighter.
.
Stupid as it sounds, it might have to do with the bottle..but he did prove himself in the rematch with Arguello...
I loved him, would rabidly cheer for him against Leonard but he would have lost.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 21 Jun 2020, 08:51
by Nile4000
Maybe they should have matched Aaron with Roger Stafford in a 12 rounder, with the winner getting Sugar Ray Leonard.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 21 Jun 2020, 09:37
by Onetimeonly
Nile4000 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2020, 08:51
Maybe they should have matched Aaron with Roger Stafford in a 12 rounder, with the winner getting Sugar Ray Leonard.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 07:34
by AntonioMartin
Nile4000 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2020, 08:51
Maybe they should have matched Aaron with Roger Stafford in a 12 rounder, with the winner getting Sugar Ray Leonard.
Actually not a bad idea...if Stafford beat Pryor, his name would have enlargened enough to make Leonard-Stafford a large bout, and everyone (Promoter, sanctioning bodies, TV and both Stafford and Leonard) would make large amounts of money. Pryor would be the only loser in that scenario. Of course if Pryor won as he probably would have, everyone but Stafford wins big as well, so not a bad idea at all...
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 25 Jul 2020, 09:17
by Onetimeonly
AntonioMartin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 07:34
Nile4000 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2020, 08:51
Maybe they should have matched Aaron with Roger Stafford in a 12 rounder, with the winner getting Sugar Ray Leonard.
Actually not a bad idea...if Stafford beat Pryor, his name would have enlargened enough to make Leonard-Stafford a large bout, and everyone (Promoter, sanctioning bodies, TV and both Stafford and Leonard) would make large amounts of money. Pryor would be the only loser in that scenario. Of course if Pryor won as he probably would have, everyone but Stafford wins big as well, so not a bad idea at all...
Neither would have been a big money fight for Leonard. Pryor wouldn't be short, but nothing like hearns or Duran money. Stafford?
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 27 Jul 2020, 15:34
by Nile4000
AntonioMartin wrote: ↑25 Jul 2020, 07:34
Nile4000 wrote: ↑21 Jun 2020, 08:51
Maybe they should have matched Aaron with Roger Stafford in a 12 rounder, with the winner getting Sugar Ray Leonard.
Actually not a bad idea...if Stafford beat Pryor, his name would have enlargened enough to make Leonard-Stafford a large bout, and everyone (Promoter, sanctioning bodies, TV and both Stafford and Leonard) would make large amounts of money. Pryor would be the only loser in that scenario. Of course if Pryor won as he probably would have, everyone but Stafford wins big as well, so not a bad idea at all...
Yeah, but I personally don't see Pryor winning. It would be the fight of his life, especially Roger knowing what is at stake. But better Roger than Milton, Donald, or Marlon, who would beat Aaron.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 27 Jul 2020, 17:07
by Onetimeonly
Pryor would pound Roger. Stafford had a nice night against a vastly overrated ex champ.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 28 Jul 2020, 14:35
by Nile4000
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Jul 2020, 17:07
Pryor would pound Roger. Stafford had a nice night against a vastly overrated ex champ.
Possibly, but you got to admit, 147 is a big step up for Aaron.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 28 Jul 2020, 14:44
by Onetimeonly
Nile4000 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2020, 14:35
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Jul 2020, 17:07
Pryor would pound Roger. Stafford had a nice night against a vastly overrated ex champ.
Possibly, but you got to admit, 147 is a big step up for Aaron.
Not at that level.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 28 Jul 2020, 15:15
by Nile4000
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jul 2020, 14:44
Nile4000 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2020, 14:35
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑27 Jul 2020, 17:07
Pryor would pound Roger. Stafford had a nice night against a vastly overrated ex champ.
Possibly, but you got to admit, 147 is a big step up for Aaron.
Not at that level.
And knowing Aaron, he might underestimate Roger. Big mistake. even for someone of the talent level of Stafford.
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 28 Jul 2020, 15:20
by Onetimeonly
Nile4000 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2020, 15:15
Onetimeonly wrote: ↑28 Jul 2020, 14:44
Nile4000 wrote: ↑28 Jul 2020, 14:35
Possibly, but you got to admit, 147 is a big step up for Aaron.
Not at that level.
And knowing Aaron, he might underestimate Roger. Big mistake. even for someone of the talent level of Stafford.
Lol
Re: Prime Aaron Pryor vs. a prime Sugar Ray Leonard? -------
Posted: 25 Sep 2020, 11:33
by detamour
BoxBuzz wrote: ↑12 Jun 2020, 10:48
No doubt Pryor beats Leonard.........
It would be an absolute certainty that Aaron would beat Ray to the airport in a frantic desperate dash to get the hell out of town, at least 6 hours before any scheduled bout with Ray.
LOL, MAN IM CRYING!!