Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

Space Moutain
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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I'm learning about boxing from his posts. Why should he be banned? You're the one doing the insulting.
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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Space Moutain wrote:I'm learning about boxing from his posts.
Really?

You may have just given Dr Buzz the excuse he needs to kick Il Duce off the forum.

As I understand it, Dr Buzz claims Il Duce is no problem as his shite is so far out of touch with reality that no rational human being would believe any of it.

But now you say Il Duce is teaching you about boxing...
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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Space Moutain wrote:I'm learning about boxing from his posts. Why should he be banned? You're the one doing the insulting.
F*ck You

If Il Duce is teaching you anything you're a f*cking idiot!!!!
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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gilgamesh wrote:
Space Moutain wrote:I'm learning about boxing from his posts. Why should he be banned? You're the one doing the insulting.
F*ck You

If Il Duce is teaching you anything you're a f*cking idiot!!!!
Well our relationship has certainly taken a turn for the worse.

I still respect you, but don't resect what you said to me.
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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Space Moutain wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Space Moutain wrote:I'm learning about boxing from his posts. Why should he be banned? You're the one doing the insulting.
F*ck You

If Il Duce is teaching you anything you're a f*cking idiot!!!!
Well our relationship has certainly taken a turn for the worse.

I still respect you, but don't resect what you said to me.
Fair enough. I still respect you too, believe it or not. I'd prefer you'd start speaking in a more realistic manner when it comes to Boxing. Clearly you know your Pro Wrestling as Ric Flair is the greatest, and we both understand that. But you could use a little learning on Boxing if you think Il Duce has anything to teach you.
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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gilgamesh wrote:
Space Moutain wrote:
Well our relationship has certainly taken a turn for the worse.

I still respect you, but don't resect what you said to me.
Fair enough. I still respect you too, believe it or not. I'd prefer you'd start speaking in a more realistic manner when it comes to Boxing. Clearly you know your Pro Wrestling as Ric Flair is the greatest, and we both understand that. But you could use a little learning on Boxing if you think Il Duce has anything to teach you.
Will take into consideration.

Can you say anything nice about Il Duce's contributions?
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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Space Moutain wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Space Moutain wrote:
Well our relationship has certainly taken a turn for the worse.

I still respect you, but don't resect what you said to me.
Fair enough. I still respect you too, believe it or not. I'd prefer you'd start speaking in a more realistic manner when it comes to Boxing. Clearly you know your Pro Wrestling as Ric Flair is the greatest, and we both understand that. But you could use a little learning on Boxing if you think Il Duce has anything to teach you.
Will take into consideration.

Can you say anything nice about Il Duce's contributions?
Honestly no...he's been a complete and absolute idiot since joining this forum and has contributed absolutely nothing. He should be banned.

If you think he's a good poster....I can't say you have a bright future here either.
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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gilgamesh wrote:
Fair enough. I still respect you too, believe it or not. I'd prefer you'd start speaking in a more realistic manner when it comes to Boxing. Clearly you know your Pro Wrestling as Ric Flair is the greatest, and we both understand that. But you could use a little learning on Boxing if you think Il Duce has anything to teach you.
Will take into consideration.

Can you say anything nice about Il Duce's contributions?[/quote]

Honestly no...he's been a complete and absolute idiot since joining this forum and has contributed absolutely nothing. He should be banned.

If you think he's a good poster....I can't say you have a bright future here either.[/quote]

Well I hope we can be cordial with each other, regardless.

Have you thought about blocking him? I just discovered the block feature.
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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Well do you have any actual thoughts on Boxing. Or Are you just following Duce's trail of stupidity?

If you want to actually talk boxing I'm your man.
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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gilgamesh wrote:Well do you have any actual thoughts on Boxing. Or Are you just following Duce's trail of stupidity?

If you want to actually talk boxing I'm your man.
Alright brotha, have a good night! :TU:
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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Space Moutain wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Well do you have any actual thoughts on Boxing. Or Are you just following Duce's trail of stupidity?

If you want to actually talk boxing I'm your man.
Alright brotha, have a good night! :TU:
So in other words...you don't want to actually talk boxing? :lol:
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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gilgamesh wrote:
Space Moutain wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Well do you have any actual thoughts on Boxing. Or Are you just following Duce's trail of stupidity?

If you want to actually talk boxing I'm your man.
Alright brotha, have a good night! :TU:
So in other words...you don't want to actually talk boxing? :lol:
Is later ok? I just have to go now
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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Sure dude. Later
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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gilgamesh wrote:
Space Moutain wrote:I'm learning about boxing from his posts. Why should he be banned? You're the one doing the insulting.
F*ck You

If Il Duce is teaching you anything you're a f*cking idiot!!!!
:o what a grouch :x
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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palooka wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Space Moutain wrote:I'm learning about boxing from his posts. Why should he be banned? You're the one doing the insulting.
F*ck You

If Il Duce is teaching you anything you're a f*cking idiot!!!!
:o what a grouch :x
I see that you reside in Malibu. What a beautiful place!
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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palooka wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Space Moutain wrote:I'm learning about boxing from his posts. Why should he be banned? You're the one doing the insulting.
F*ck You

If Il Duce is teaching you anything you're a f*cking idiot!!!!
:o what a grouch :x
:DD
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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F*ck You

If Il Duce is teaching you anything you're a f*cking idiot!!!![/quote]

:o what a grouch :x[/quote]

I see that you reside in Malibu. What a beautiful place![/quote]

I only say that to wind people up; I live in Doncaster, Yorkshire on Shit Street but you made me very happy for a moment there Space Mountain, just imagining that you imagined I lived in Malibu is the happiest thing to happen to me for ages :TU:
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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I grew up on poo street. You're not a McGillicuddy are you?
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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BoxBuzz wrote:I grew up on poo street. You're not a McGillicuddy are you?
No, there's lots of Shit Streets; I'm a fox and people tell me I am a FOX :)
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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:salut:
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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Duce....seriously....these are not quotes. If they have ANY factual basis in fact or FACTOID they are AT BEST paraphrasing.....can you identify WHO the paraphraser is? This is purely and simply NOT Sonny's syntax.

Though it does bear the rhythm and prose like qualities of a poster on this very forum.

Are you the parphraser? If so....what is/are the source of these "impressions"? By that I mean with WHOM did these "july" events take place? Or DidJuly? By events I mean the "discussion" that was had with Sonny.

I hope I'm not being overly specific here. But when such things are quoted, it's SO nice to have something to connect it to.
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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Il Duce wrote:
BoxBuzz wrote:Duce....seriously....these are not quotes. If they have ANY factual basis in fact or FACTOID they are AT BEST paraphrasing.....can you identify WHO the paraphraser is? This is purely and simply NOT Sonny's syntax.

Though it does bear the rhythm and prose like qualities of a poster on this very forum.

Are you the parphraser? If so....what is/are the source of these "impressions"? By that I mean with WHOM did these "july" events take place? Or DidJuly? By events I mean the "discussion" that was had with Sonny.

I hope I'm not being overly specific here. But when such things are quoted, it's SO nice to have something to connect it to.
What specifically is incorrect........... :??

Well....Nothing...if it's made up.

However if these are FACTS:

All I'm asking is......where did you find these quotes OR Where did you HEAR these quotes. Where ELSE (besides right here on BoxRec) can I find these quotes?

Thanks in advance for your assured cooperation in this matter.
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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Il Duce wrote:Friday ~ July 19, 1963

Thunderbird Hotel

'SONNY SLAPS CLAY FOR RUNNING HIS MOUTH'

Heavyweight Champion ~ Sonny Liston trapped 'The Loudmouth from Louisville' ~ Cassius Clay
and slapped him across his cheek.

Whether it was staged or not, is to be questioned. But witnesses said that Sonny walked up behind
Cassius who was talking about the Champion very loudly. Sonny grabbed Cassius by the left shoulder
and spun him like a 'spinning wheel.

Then the Champion swatted a surprised Cassius across the face. Stunned, Cassius' eyes welled up with
water, then he asked Sonny, "What was that for."

Sonny replied, "You're getting too fresh out here. Watch your mouth."


"ODDS ON BOUT FOR LISTON - PATTERSON"

* Champion - Sonny Liston remains at {4 to 1} 'man-to-man' to retain his Championship.

* Odds are {5 to 2} that it ends in the 1st or 2nd Round.
* Odds are {4 to 1} that is goes 5-Rounds.
* Odds are {30 to 1} that it goes 10-Rounds.
* Odds are {50 to 1} that it goes 15-Rounds

* Odds are {12 to 1} that Floyd Patterson regains his Championship by a Knockout.

Sonny Liston >
'I make no predictions other than I have just as good as chance in the Ring as Floyd. I don't look
at the Odds. I'd be just as happy if I won by a 15-round Decision instead of a Knockout. It makes
no difference to me.'

'I'm guessing Floyd will be better this time and fight a little different. I figure the fight to go at least
3 Rounds, but no longer than 5.'

Are you aware that this Clay Slapping story is Bollocks? Were you snookered in to believing it by someone who gained your confidence?

Or are you just having fun with your imagination again?


Please answer the question.

Thanks in advance!!
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Re: Sonny Liston and The Thunderbird Hotel

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LOL....no, no it doesn't really say that...now does it.

And of course...even if it did, I think the Fairbanks paper....far from where the event purportedly took place....just MIGHT require some qualifying.

Busted.
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